Living Costs in the Dominican Republic

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More Important,is NEVER,EVER, allow a dominican to cook the pasta!!!!!!
It's "Al Dente", but only if you are toothless!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Very VERY true. Criss, I've made some Princessa pasta too, and it's not bad if you watch the cooking time and check it. I also buy DeCecco in La Sirena sometimes, not any more expensive there than it is in US - their lasagna sheets are wonderful, and don't need to be pre-boiled, just dipped in hot water and layered.
 

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al dente or not depends on personal taste, and what will be served with the pasta.
of course the cooking time for every pasta has to be watched, the cooking time for every cooked food item has to be watched or the final outcome is as CCCCC stated correctly, very suitable for the toothless all around, lol.
the "toothless cooking" is very typical in average dominican households, sad fact, yes.
it took me years to make my wife eat a steak not cooked to dead.
todays she knows that the darn cow is already dead when i by a Lomito, and that it tastes just perfect and stays smooth when still bloody, just "warmed up".
but thats a learning process of years, and on many things still "learning".
as for prices to compare, agreed to AE, there are many imported items from the USA and from Europe, which do not cost more or just slightly/insignificantly more than the same item/brand costs at a average supermarket in the US or Europe etc.
the times with few Imported 10 times overprized bad quality items are long over.
you find at a real DR Supermarket the same products/brands as you find in northamerican or western european supermarkets.
not all the variety, but you find what you know from home and for prices to be comparable/acceptable.
and some things can easily be purchased in good quality as local products, sadly they are often only slightly cheaper or not cheaper at all than the imports.
my shopping cart always contains a mixture, there are items where i prefer the local stuff, specially of course the always fresh available fruits/veggies and alikes, and there are items where i found the local counterparts not suitable and prefer the exports what ever the price would be.
in general, shopping here costs what it would cost me in germany for the same kind of items, to cook the same way as on da otha side of the big pond. some items are a bit cheaper, others a bit more expensive, at the end of the month the summary of shopping bills shows more or less the same costs here as they would be for the same items at home.
yes AE,
those Princesa Pastas, in all colours and forms and sizes, i started to find a few years ago, bought them more and more til i tested their whole variety, they are one of the few local brtands which i stayed with.
not that they would be the best Pastas of the Globe,
but they are a imho good/very acceptable product for a very reaspnable(i would even say Cheap) price.
and then there are products where all tests of local variations brought me to the point to say "Never Again",
like Ketchup, those crazy americans have the by my own taste best Ketchups in the shelfes of DR Supermarkets.
or mustards, here the DR and American Brands suck by my taste big time, all completely unediable, here i prefer the german and british ones, doesn't matter how expensive at times.

Mike
 

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Many people say this is not a cheap country to live in but i disagree i own my own homes
here is my basic budget for a month
food 250 month
elec 150 pool no aircon
pool maintenance 60
internet 30
tv cable 20
prepaid cell 30
skype 10
house ins 60
car ins 40
car gas 100
personal ins 50
fun 500
$1300 a month or $15600 a year...i just round it to 20k a year
to take into account house and car maintenance, gym, emergency stuff like porn website memberships every now and again.
I dont know if there are many countries where you can get by
on all the above for $400 a week ( $20k yearly)

My life is simple, no drugs or booze, i exersize daily, bike ride, swim and have a drive in the evening.
I dont hit the bars anymore. I cook a lot, with the occasional burger
I will tap a chica from time to time but not 3 times a week
I'm totally cool with my $3-400 dollar a week existence
 

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I'm very new to the forums and rules. Never needed it before. I thought you meant quoting prices. Thats why my post since then didnt include prices but, thats ok, i got everything I need anyway .


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DR!'s simple "RULES", POST only ABOUT THE DR,EXCEPT IN THE "off topic forum".
AND stay on the topic of the original poster.

ANY one know how much an apartment rents for in NYC????????
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Owning your own home makes a difference in your budget. $400.00 a week it is very doable here and really almost anywhere. Me personally I could not live without AC here so although we own our home our budget is higher for comfort purposes. I am becoming quite the pressure cooker fan so those "cheaper/tough" meats are rather tasty. Electricity and groceries are probably our 2 biggest expenses. I have a 'ballpark" figure but next grocery shopping expedition I will make better notes on what the costs are.
 
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Most of the world lives on less than $20K a year~ it's what you can get with it in DR that's the point. You can live on $10K a year if you want to do without a pool, booze and only eat local foods, but from what I've read $20K/year seems to be about the median that ex-pats can live on comfortably. Some single expats can get by on $10K and some families spend $100K, though how they spend that kind of money is a mystery to me.
 

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I'm very new to the forums and rules. Never needed it before. I thought you meant quoting prices. Thats why my post since then didnt include prices but, thats ok, i got everything I need anyway .


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yes, on this topic you include prices, thats part of the "Living Costs in DR",
Prices at DOMINICAN tiendas, supermarkets, colmados, hooka-beach bars, carwashes, just not Walmart Prices.

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appartment in NYC or in NuebaYol? you need to specify which area you wanna live in.
NuebaYol Dominicans pay of course a Gringo Premium in Washington Heights, while da Locals in Manhattan get their cheaper local rental rates.

Lovemedo,
your costs sound completely fine and reasonable for a single who does not drink nor smoke, as those 2 things make a huge difference.
the 250.-US$ monthly food budget is fine for normal 1 person food solely, it would double if i ad my cigarettes to the same shopping list, and when drinking wine and beers etc it goes up by several times the number.
just for food for one person, completely fine.
just curious,
what you mean with Skype $10.- per month? is this a skype phne plan or such?
just been on skype with the Grannies in germany, as we usually doe every weekend for an hour or two, and thats for free, as only a internet connection is needed.
your personal insurance sounds low compared to your car insurance. don't value your car higher than your own health.
i pay just around $20.- per month for the car(2001 Mitsubishi Truck), but around $120.- for my own health insurance.
and your monthly costs are only possible as you Own your house/appartment, thats a big difference of course, as you already did a Investment on that sector.

Glenn,
that's a acceptable variation, it does not violate any Etiquette, haha

cheers

Mike
 

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Most of the world lives on less than $20K a year~ it's what you can get with it in DR that's the point. You can live on $10K a year if you want to do without a pool, booze and only eat local foods, but from what I've read $20K/year seems to be about the median that ex-pats can live on comfortably. Some single expats can get by on $10K and some families spend $100K, though how they spend that kind of money is a mystery to me.

that's all easily doable, including the high spendings.
take just a smoking couple. i sorrily kill myself 2 packs a day, that's over $200.- per month, the Mrs smokes less than 1 a day, sums up for the 2 of us to $3500.- per year just for the smokes.
who loves a couple beers per day or wine for dinner, adds big on the yearly bill.
Drive a new 50K$ Car and the car-insurance and maintenance together consume someone else's monthly budget just for the Car Alone.
some rent a room for $250.- a month, others a Appartment for $600, others maintain a whole Villa which costs more ...
Living in DR is possible on all levels,
but people need to keep in mind that on no level there would be any Governmental safety Net, when shyt hits da Fan, you are on your own, no food stamps to get anywhere.
so people should see their own budget(SS Check income, Pension etc), take away from that a good amount on a savings account every month, the remaining sum is what they have as for a living budget.
so one sunny day in paradise turns into hell, there are some savings to solve the troubles or to move back to the homeland to start all over from scratch again.
solely based on prices for living, the DR costs in it's different areas imho the same as usa/canada/western europe would cost to live in the same kinda Areas/Levels. the same as those countries, the DR offers areas/levels from living cheap up to living in full luxury.
as there is a huge difference between living in a penthouse on 5th avenue or somewhere out in da wild in Ohio, so there is a Living Costs Difference between living in a one room Appartment in El Seibo or a Mansion in Casa de Campo or Cap Cana.

it is all doable everywhere, according to the own financial possibilities.

Mike
 

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yes, on this topic you include prices, thats part of the "Living Costs in DR",
Prices at DOMINICAN tiendas, supermarkets, colmados, hooka-beach bars, carwashes, just not Walmart Prices.

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appartment in NYC or in NuebaYol? you need to specify which area you wanna live in.
NuebaYol Dominicans pay of course a Gringo Premium in Washington Heights, while da Locals in Manhattan get their cheaper local rental rates.

Lovemedo,
your costs sound completely fine and reasonable for a single who does not drink nor smoke, as those 2 things make a huge difference.
the 250.-US$ monthly food budget is fine for normal 1 person food solely, it would double if i ad my cigarettes to the same shopping list, and when drinking wine and beers etc it goes up by several times the number.
just for food for one person, completely fine.
just curious,
what you mean with Skype $10.- per month? is this a skype phne plan or such?
just been on skype with the Grannies in germany, as we usually doe every weekend for an hour or two, and thats for free, as only a internet connection is needed.
your personal insurance sounds low compared to your car insurance. don't value your car higher than your own health.
i pay just around $20.- per month for the car(2001 Mitsubishi Truck), but around $120.- for my own health insurance.
and your monthly costs are only possible as you Own your house/appartment, thats a big difference of course, as you already did a Investment on that sector.

Glenn,
that's a acceptable variation, it does not violate any Etiquette, haha

cheers

Mike



When i call family from my computer via skype i call their landline...its a few cents a minute!!!! So over the month i spend 10$ or so
 

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that's all easily doable, including the high spendings.
take just a smoking couple. i sorrily kill myself 2 packs a day, that's over $200.- per month, the Mrs smokes less than 1 a day, sums up for the 2 of us to $3500.- per year just for the smokes.
who loves a couple beers per day or wine for dinner, adds big on the yearly bill.
Drive a new 50K$ Car and the car-insurance and maintenance together consume someone else's monthly budget just for the Car Alone.
some rent a room for $250.- a month, others a Appartment for $600, others maintain a whole Villa which costs more ...
Living in DR is possible on all levels,
but people need to keep in mind that on no level there would be any Governmental safety Net, when shyt hits da Fan, you are on your own, no food stamps to get anywhere.
so people should see their own budget(SS Check income, Pension etc), take away from that a good amount on a savings account every month, the remaining sum is what they have as for a living budget.
so one sunny day in paradise turns into hell, there are some savings to solve the troubles or to move back to the homeland to start all over from scratch again.
solely based on prices for living, the DR costs in it's different areas imho the same as usa/canada/western europe would cost to live in the same kinda Areas/Levels. the same as those countries, the DR offers areas/levels from living cheap up to living in full luxury.
as there is a huge difference between living in a penthouse on 5th avenue or somewhere out in da wild in Ohio, so there is a Living Costs Difference between living in a one room Appartment in El Seibo or a Mansion in Casa de Campo or Cap Cana.

it is all doable everywhere, according to the own financial possibilities.

Mike
I largely agree except with it costs the same to live in the same kind of areas in us, canada etc

One of my properties i built from scratch in an estate; and it cost me 10 years ago... land included 30 metres from the beach a total of $130k
Their are not to many places in the USA where you can pay that little for what i now possess. My house is a beautiful home with pool and palms. No way would i get this for what i paid in the US or Can'
 

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I largely agree except with it costs the same to live in the same kind of areas in us, canada etc

One of my properties i built from scratch in an estate; and it cost me 10 years ago... land included 30 metres from the beach a total of $130k
Their are not to many places in the USA where you can pay that little for what i now possess. My house is a beautiful home with pool and palms. No way would i get this for what i paid in the US or Can'

o.k., agreed on that point, specially 10 or better 20 years ago.
2 decades ago you still could purchase beachfront property even here in punta cana for peanuts, worth todays millions of dollars without any construction costs.
i would say Beachfront anywhere in the USA would be considered Prime Real estate and cost quiet some bucks.
10-20 years ago such was not the case with beachfront in DR at all areas. you could buy such around the island for cheap, it was not considered Prime Real Estate.
a wise decision to purchase such at that time, as todays it is worth a lot and further rising on value, as todays Beach Front get's rare, in some areas almost not available for any price anymore.
you did a good investment at a time when still many did not see the furture development along the shores around the country.
20 years ago a piece of Beachfront even near Punta Cana, would have been considered just a piece of Land, nothing special, like some average Farmland in Ohio, nothing fancy or expensive. comparable.
Todays, a beachfront property in Punta Cana is prime Location for Real estate, highest value, comparable to more expensive properties in the USA than just some Farmland out there in da open.

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Renting vs buying vs building new is a hard call.. From what I've seen in the listings lately, you can rent beachfront for much cheaper than buying. Some owners just want a steady income to cover costs while they hope they can sell at a profit, but you can get a decent condo a mile from the beach for under $60K, a stand alone house for about $100K and up or a walled "villa" starting around $250K. Want to blow $4 million? They've got that for sale too.

I'm flipping a property here in NY and then FINALLY, after nearly ten years, coming down again to assess the DR market first hand. I'm taking my time and have some new towns to check out. It seems the off season is the best time to look for bargains..
 

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Renting vs buying vs building new is a hard call.. From what I've seen in the listings lately, you can rent beachfront for much cheaper than buying. Some owners just want a steady income to cover costs while they hope they can sell at a profit, but you can get a decent condo a mile from the beach for under $60K, a stand alone house for about $100K and up or a walled "villa" starting around $250K. Want to blow $4 million? They've got that for sale too.

I'm flipping a property here in NY and then FINALLY, after nearly ten years, coming down again to assess the DR market first hand. I'm taking my time and have some new towns to check out. It seems the off season is the best time to look for bargains..

now is a good time to buy, as properties do not go since some years, nobody pays what owners thought they would be worth a few years ago.
but honestly, i would not buy and built down here, not worth it, Rent is the way to go.
where I own/bought, is the Ranch. i also own property along the Boulevard del Este, the highway between PC airport and the hotelarea, first row, Highway entry/exit, but i would never build there for my own. it is property that i bought cheap many many years ago/almost 2 decades ago, i did of course not know about any highway to be build right along there, lucky shot. such properties are like money on the bank, wait some years or decades, then sell. right now salesprices are the cheapest since a very long time, good for buyers, but those buyers do not know when their property will start to raise on value.
the only exceptions are the extremely rare small beachfront properties, almost nothing available in the punta cana area, at least not available for sales, and where someone is willing to sell, it does not matter on the price if theres a mansion built on it or if its a empty dirty Lot, it has its high price because it is beachfront, right along the 60 meters from the waterline.

consider building costs and purchase of beachfront property, look on the typical markets rental rates(which are darn cheap here), and then see how many decades you need to rent out such property, just to amorize the prior investment, PLUS the extra years of renting out to cover for your maintenance costs to keep it up on value as a Landlord, NOT worth it.

I live in a 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom, small balcony, big veranda appartment right on the beach, first row, fully furniched $600.- USD per month. all maintenance, security, trash removals, beach cleaning etc etc already in the rental price.
now ask, what would it cost to purchase Today such beachfront and what would it cost to build it? and what is the costs of maintaining it with gardeners, watchy etc etc?
well, i did such calculations more than once during the last 20 years down here, and the result is always the same:
I will rent til the end of times, but i will not throw my money out of the window to purchase and build for the own living.

and the rental keeps me flexibel, in case the 'hood changes or the Daughter's future demands to move some other area for school etc, i just could Move, no need to sell anything. not that i like to move too often, we just moved, but within the same building, been waiting a long time that this actual bigger appartment gets empty, lol. we live here since 9 years now and i see no reason to move. but at the moment a reason comes up, i just pack the bags and we are free to move where ever we wanna go.

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Yes, it depends on where you want to live... I may rent at first, but at $50K for a condo with $100/month fees for a place in walking distance of Cabarete, I don't think I'd get too hurt if I sell down the road.

Another factor of course is financing. If the properties can't increase with the cost of a loan, you're screwed.