I drove that stretch of road once, just as it was getting dark. The bus drivers were extremely aggressive and dangerous!
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massive accident on azua-barahona road
aggressive is the perfect word to describe the driving. everyone wants to be at the front of the line of traffic. people overtake anywhere, without a concept of defensive driving. i wonder what they do with the 30 seconds they save on each trip.
so... the driver of the patana was competing with another driver. and supposedly, he was drunk (two bottles of whiskey, one half empty were found in the cabin).
Patanista mat? 9 en Azua hac?a competencia con otro conductor
Patanista mat? 9 en Azua hac?a competencia con otro conductor
Lawlessness and Anarchy on the Roads
El Caribe ? Se entrega el chofer que ocasion? accidente Azua-Barahona
The driver of the large truck shot in the air twice and got away in the vehicle of the driver whom he was competing against in the race.
People burnt his vehicle.
"El incendio del veh?culo de carga conducido por Moralo Aquino, quien huy? del lugar con ayuda de otro patanista, realizando dos disparos al aire, fue ocasionado por un grupo de personas quienes llegaron en dos minibuses, y en represalia buscaron un gal?n de gasolina e incendiaron la patana, la cual qued? convertida en chatarra."
http://hoy.com.do/multitud-incendia-patana-que-choco-autobus-en-tramo-carretero-azua-barahona/
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El Caribe ? Se entrega el chofer que ocasion? accidente Azua-Barahona
The driver of the large truck shot in the air twice and got away in the vehicle of the driver whom he was competing against in the race.
People burnt his vehicle.
"El incendio del veh?culo de carga conducido por Moralo Aquino, quien huy? del lugar con ayuda de otro patanista, realizando dos disparos al aire, fue ocasionado por un grupo de personas quienes llegaron en dos minibuses, y en represalia buscaron un gal?n de gasolina e incendiaron la patana, la cual qued? convertida en chatarra."
http://hoy.com.do/multitud-incendia-patana-que-choco-autobus-en-tramo-carretero-azua-barahona/
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seeing the time frame between the accident and the time he showed up to face the justice i am sure his blood will come as clean and he will never admit that he was drunk.
btw, i understand running away, people would have burned him alive along with the patana. if i ever cause an accident, i'm outta there in seconds. in europe running away makes things way worse. in DR it makes things momentarily better as you are not lynched on the spot...
btw, i understand running away, people would have burned him alive along with the patana. if i ever cause an accident, i'm outta there in seconds. in europe running away makes things way worse. in DR it makes things momentarily better as you are not lynched on the spot...
The real weird thing here is I find most people drive slowly on open roads.
For diffrent reasons. Some cars will start losing parts above 80km/h (wheels, windsceen, exhaust pipe.....). But also lots of new(ish) looking Suvs, crawling along.......
The exception are lorrys and caribe tour buses who fly around as if possesssed........
I am more scared of getting hit by behind when stopped ( I have had a couple of close shaves ), or behind a slow going lorry ( especially on road navarrte/POP)....
For diffrent reasons. Some cars will start losing parts above 80km/h (wheels, windsceen, exhaust pipe.....). But also lots of new(ish) looking Suvs, crawling along.......
The exception are lorrys and caribe tour buses who fly around as if possesssed........
I am more scared of getting hit by behind when stopped ( I have had a couple of close shaves ), or behind a slow going lorry ( especially on road navarrte/POP)....
well... when i first drove to santiago, just after i got my license i went maybe 60-70 km an hour. poor miesposo was sweating blood and tears. but at least i went on the outside lane. i could not go faster as i lacked experience and confidence. but with driving you will never learn unless you actually do it. so each time i drove a bit better and better. now on the highway (well, sort of, i've only driven to santiago and cabarete) i do 100-110 km tops which i think is decent, considering the state of those roads.
i think the biggest problem is a lack of consistency. people drive very slowly, then suddenly speed up to drop back to the crawl again. i see it even more as a white woman. nothing pi**es off a dominican driver more than a woman, and a gringa to boot, overtaking his rotten 25 years old corolla.
i think the biggest problem is a lack of consistency. people drive very slowly, then suddenly speed up to drop back to the crawl again. i see it even more as a white woman. nothing pi**es off a dominican driver more than a woman, and a gringa to boot, overtaking his rotten 25 years old corolla.
transport unions & politics
Going against the conchos and guagas publicly is political suicide. Their power is based on a combination of their sheer numbers and their origin as a Trujillo era creation to keep tabs on the population. Through them, the government could know who was going where, saying what to whom, and when.
In spite of all the progressive posturing of today's political class, they still treat the transport unions with kid gloves. Pols know the people will side with the conchos because the conchos only need to threaten fare hikes that they always blame on any government attempts to impose vehicle standards, safety rules, or otherwise regulate them. The conchos do it to keep the public under their thumb. The medieval conditions of the public transportation is sad and embarrassing.
Going against the conchos and guagas publicly is political suicide. Their power is based on a combination of their sheer numbers and their origin as a Trujillo era creation to keep tabs on the population. Through them, the government could know who was going where, saying what to whom, and when.
In spite of all the progressive posturing of today's political class, they still treat the transport unions with kid gloves. Pols know the people will side with the conchos because the conchos only need to threaten fare hikes that they always blame on any government attempts to impose vehicle standards, safety rules, or otherwise regulate them. The conchos do it to keep the public under their thumb. The medieval conditions of the public transportation is sad and embarrassing.
i think hubieres and the rest of sindicalistas de trasporte should be publicly executed. i suggest something drastic and visually impressive. maybe burning at the stake. then the government could politely ask those who replaced the sindicalistas if they want to fry or will they finally shut the f**k up and do as told. nothing less will work.
of course she adapted easily to Euro driving, it's easy to adjust when you don't have to deal with people doing engine overhauls wherever their vehicles break down (passing lane included) or suicidal motorcyclists, or cars traveling at horse and buggy speeds because they are missing two to three wheel bearings!
you will notice drivers reducing their speed whenever the road curves, there is not muchfamiliarity with controlling vehicles at high speeds on curving roads
Even the buses ate dangerous. Caribetours bus goes over 80 mph coming down the mountains into Puerta Plata. Look out the Window next time. Scare the hell out of you. At least Metro has seat belts so you have a small chance of surviving the violent roll down the mountain side. They scare me so much I either drive or take the local that stops all the time, Transporte Cibao. Their drivers seem much better than either of the other two companies. When you factor in the lengthy shops in PP and Santiago I get to SD in about the same time. Lots of local color on the Transporte Cibao bus. The best trips are late Friday afternoons when all the young ladies are on their way to Sosua for their part time jobs.
i know i'm not. i have seen it repeatedly, especially when i still had a capa which is a small, weak and crappy car. i don't see the same aggression towards overtaking when miespsoso drives.
driving
I think my sense of humour is warped. I can't help myself, I always laugh when somebody risks a front end collision or going off the side of the road to pass me. I also get a laugh when another driver has to slam on the brakes because he sped up to beat me to a red light or a busy intersection's stop sign. It's in the same category as always keeping your eyes and attention focused in the direction you are traveling - - not in the local playbook. How often do you see someone driving straight ahead while focused on something off to the side or behind them? It's not funny but I can't help but laugh.
I think my sense of humour is warped. I can't help myself, I always laugh when somebody risks a front end collision or going off the side of the road to pass me. I also get a laugh when another driver has to slam on the brakes because he sped up to beat me to a red light or a busy intersection's stop sign. It's in the same category as always keeping your eyes and attention focused in the direction you are traveling - - not in the local playbook. How often do you see someone driving straight ahead while focused on something off to the side or behind them? It's not funny but I can't help but laugh.
Sindicato dise?a plan educaci?n para choferes -
yeah, as if. they always spew stuff like that after every big accident and no changes...
yeah, as if. they always spew stuff like that after every big accident and no changes...
There were seatbelts on the bus I took from Barahona to SD last month.
I don't think the driver exceeded 110 kph. I was sitting right behind him. I seem to be the only one that bothered with the seatbelt. Once I was in a bus accident on the switchbacks between Mexico City and Veracruz. This was on a Flecha Amarilla first class bus, and I was asleep at the time. It was pure chaos, since the bus was on its side and nearly full. It seemed like it must have been on a soprano convention, since there was an inordinate amount of high pitched wailing. I was sitting on the aisle seat, and the bus was lying down on the opposite side. I only got a bruised rib. I helped drag people down the aisle and pushed them up through the door. No one was killed, so I guess he wasn't speeding. The Cruz Roja from Orizaba came after about half an hour. Of course, no one had cell phones and it was dark and there must have been thirty cars stopped.
The most exciting bus ride in which I did not have an accident was between Quito and Cuenca, Ecuador. If you have not seen the Andes, you have not seen real mountains.
I don't think the driver exceeded 110 kph. I was sitting right behind him. I seem to be the only one that bothered with the seatbelt. Once I was in a bus accident on the switchbacks between Mexico City and Veracruz. This was on a Flecha Amarilla first class bus, and I was asleep at the time. It was pure chaos, since the bus was on its side and nearly full. It seemed like it must have been on a soprano convention, since there was an inordinate amount of high pitched wailing. I was sitting on the aisle seat, and the bus was lying down on the opposite side. I only got a bruised rib. I helped drag people down the aisle and pushed them up through the door. No one was killed, so I guess he wasn't speeding. The Cruz Roja from Orizaba came after about half an hour. Of course, no one had cell phones and it was dark and there must have been thirty cars stopped.
The most exciting bus ride in which I did not have an accident was between Quito and Cuenca, Ecuador. If you have not seen the Andes, you have not seen real mountains.
ministerio publico is asking fr one year preventive prison for the driver:
MP pedir? un a?o de prisi?n contra patanista que provoc? accidente en Azua - listindiario.com
MP pedir? un a?o de prisi?n contra patanista que provoc? accidente en Azua - listindiario.com