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NALs

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What I meant to say is I hope that the other types of oils I buy here don't have palm oil in them, as apparently it is a big market here. I think HB mentioned something about that at some point.
Almost all cooking oils made in the DR are from Palm Oil, however the imported cooking oils are from what they claim to be which usually is not from Palm Oil.

One thing doesn't change because whether you buy locally produced or imported, in the Dominican market almost all the labels on sale at supermarkets/colmados belong to Mercasid.
 

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Almost all cooking oils made in the DR are from Palm Oil, however the imported cooking oils are from what they claim to be which usually is not from Palm Oil.

One thing doesn't change because whether you buy locally produced or imported, in the Dominican market almost all the labels on sale at supermarkets/colmados belong to Mercasid.

This is quite disconcerting, given that they advertize it as 100% soya. I buy El Diamante and Crisol.
 

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Unhappy meals

I cant believe this thread is 7 pages. The bottom line is that McDonald's in the DR should be better and cheaper(cheaper rent, cheaper labor, cheaper insurances) than the USA, but they are not.

As usual the system is stealing your value at every opportunity. Somebody is getting paid off, making the DR product suck and high priced.

Chip, I would assume they use the cheapest trans fat oil on the market. I am sure when the quality control is checked, they are bribed with a few pesos and hookers!

The fat cats steal everything, even your happy meal. :tired:
 

Chip

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Aceite de pobres..
jeje.

JJ

I know you say that in jest but honestly, there is a big divide between Westerners and Dominicans when it comes to class perception.

Whereas here in the DR the wealthy will do all they can to buy things that are not within reach of the "normal" dizque poor Dominican, thus they buy Mercedes cars and buy many imported products. This is even necessary to have credibility among other wealthy individuals who otherwise look down on all those who can't afford such luxuries. So what happens is that I get all of these wealthy Dominican looking down at me here because I'm white and dizque wealthy and buy local foods or not namebrand things and I on the other hand can't help but thinking how stupid and vain they are for paying three times the price for imported food from nuevaiyol that is no better than the local food or buying clothes in the local boutiques.

However, in the States, there are many wealthy people who are looking for bargains, because unlike in the DR, function does not follow form. In fact, in the States, people are ridiculed as downright stupid if they pay too much for services or items. This is 180% opposite of what Dominicans in the DR think, and I have a very hard time explaining this to people here - they just can't see it. What's funny, though, is that the Dominicans that go to the States learn this real quick in order to stretch their money.

Oh yeah, McD's fries still aren't the same though.
 
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I know you say that in jest but honestly, there is a big divide between Westerners and Dominicans when it comes to class perception.

Whereas here in the DR the wealthy will do all they can to buy things that are not within reach of the "normal" dizque poor Dominican, thus they buy Mercedes cars and buy many imported products. This is even necessary to have credibility among other wealthy individuals who otherwise look down on all those who can't afford such luxuries. So what happens is that I get all of these wealthy Dominican looking down at me here because I'm white and dizque wealthy and buy local foods or not namebrand things and I on the other hand can't help but thinking how stupid and vain they are for paying three times the price for imported food from nuevaiyol that is no better than the local food or buying clothes in the local boutiques.

However, in the States, there are many wealthy people who are looking for bargains, because unlike in the DR, function does not follow form. In fact, in the States, people are ridiculed as downright stupid if they pay too much for services or items. This is 180% opposite of what Dominicans in the DR think, and I have a very hard time explaining this to people here - they just can't see it. What's funny, though, is that the Dominicans that go to the States learn this real quick in order to stretch their money.

Oh yeah, McD's fries still aren't the same though.

Es mejor usar "aceite de pobres" que darse a conocer con el nombre de m?sica de orilla.
 

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i have never been to america so forgive me for this daring statement - i always thought that american burger is a nice juicy piece of meat grilled on bbq in the garden, filled with fresh veg and so thick one can hardly fit it inside mouth...
mcdonalds is nothing like this. and yes, i also dare to say that i see no difference between mcdonalds, burger king or wendy's - same fake taste on god knows what. when we make burgers at home i can taste all the ingredients and i actually know what is inside.
anyways - what is wrong with crisol? i use crisol for frying and imported olive oil for other stuff - am i a barrio chica or what? :)
 

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In America it is more than just hamburgers

i have never been to America so forgive me for this daring statement - i always thought that American burger is a nice juicy piece of meat grilled on BBQ in the garden, filled with fresh veg and so thick one can hardly fit it inside mouth...
McDonald's is nothing like this. .......

Yes in America there is nothing better than barbecuing in the backyard on a summer day, with those fat, juicy burgers. Unfortunately the quality of the meat that you find in D.R. for the most part doesn't compare, so it isn't the same.

But even in America, it is known that a McDonald's or other fast food burger just doesn't compare as well, but for the most part it is cheap, and convenient, and the kids love to go to these places, because they are always offering something for the kiddies to play with. Once the kiddies become older, they no longer go to McDonald's with their parents; believe it or not in many American cities it is a local gathering place for the teenagers, who can't afford to go to other places, it is more than just a hamburger place, it is a social networking place even more so for the young.

No one except maybe Coca Cola has ever marketed better than McDonald's in the States, they catch you young and keep you for the rest of your life.

I personally am no longer a big fast food junkie, and when I do have one, I actually prefer the burgers of Wendy's, I think I have seen a Wendy's here, but I don't remember where, and that would truly disappoint me if they weren't comparable to the ones I remember in the States.
 

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there is wendy's in santo domingo - i am sure someone knows the address.

i remember the time when first mcdonald opened in poland, in warsaw. one had to queue for few hours to get a burger :)

do not get me wrong - i can eat junk food from time to time, heck, i really feel like burger king right now! (no mcdonald in POP).

speaking about american chains - there is outback in santo domingo as well. their sunday takings? 1 million pesos. pays off to franchise, does it not?
 

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i have never been to america so forgive me for this daring statement - i always thought that american burger is a nice juicy piece of meat grilled on bbq in the garden, filled with fresh veg and so thick one can hardly fit it inside mouth...
mcdonalds is nothing like this. and yes, i also dare to say that i see no difference between mcdonalds, burger king or wendy's - same fake taste on god knows what. when we make burgers at home i can taste all the ingredients and i actually know what is inside.
anyways - what is wrong with crisol? i use crisol for frying and imported olive oil for other stuff - am i a barrio chica or what? :)

That's Carl's Jr. for you, a shame there isn't one in the East Coast.
 

NALs

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This is quite disconcerting, given that they advertize it as 100% soya. I buy El Diamante and Crisol.
I think you misunderstood what I previously said, which was that locally produced oil is derived from the African Palm.

Soybeans are not produced in the DR due to the climate, for that reason soybean oil is imported from Argentina. The quality is good, the only reason its cheap is because Argentina's soybean oil is among the cheapest available in the international market, plus due to the DR lacking soybean production the DR government doesn't impose any tariffs or other types of import barriers.
 

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I think you misunderstood what I previously said, which was that locally produced oil is derived from the African Palm.

Soybeans are not produced in the DR due to the climate, for that reason soybean oil is imported from Argentina. The quality is good, the only reason its cheap is because Argentina's soybean oil is among the cheapest available in the international market, plus due to the DR lacking soybean production the DR government doesn't impose any tariffs or other types of import barriers.

phew, you just added 20 years to my life, assuming that the locals aren't ligando los dos. :paranoid:
 

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sent me researching

I always figured that the beef in the US was better because it was grain fed and therefore had a higher fat content but this site says the higher end beef is indeed grass fed.

Beef, America Eats, from Life in the USA: The Complete Guide for Immigrants and Americans

so perhaps it is the aging?

I have French friends up in LT who always freeze their beef before they cook it and I have done that but no matter how good it looks, I have only found the beef here good enough for stew or chili or meatloaf.

I have not been to any of the Argentine steak houses but those must be grass fed as well, no?
 

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I think I have seen a Wendy's here, but I don't remember where, and that would truly disappoint me if they weren't comparable to the ones I remember in the States.

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