Moving to DR with children

[Cyber Park]

moving

hi
I?m moving out of the country.
can give you many advices regarding school, kindergarten, medical services...

can sell you all my used top quality appliences:
fridge, stove/oven, washer dryer, VHS, AC, etc.
SUV Kia Sportage 1999
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[sunnyvillas]

wife of course. She thought it was the cats ***. Why do you think I got married there?
We don't live together anymore so...

But 15 times, wow, you must be a very patient man to do that :surprised

No matter how much I would love or care for someone to take a vacation for 15 times somewhere I totaly hate, hmmmmmmmmmm

 

[Escott]

At first I found these annoying buggers charming, then I found these buggers NOT so charming, then I found them a pain in the arse, then I hated them, then I got rid of wife.

I first started going to Negril in the early 70's and stayed at Red Ground. Negril was a small charming place. As tourism grew so did everything negative associated with tourism. Last time I went which was 10 years ago these guys started lecturing me because I disrespected them by not even responding to their hawking of Marijuana. One thing I can say for Jamaica is that if you are looking to get stoned out of your cotton pickin mind you have found your paradise. I prefer some other things in life on occassion.

Same thing will happen in the DR as tourism grows. I laugh when I have read here that people won't return to Sosua because of annoying people on the street down to the beach. This is so mellow compared to Jamaica I have to laugh. One time I had a fellow stand in front of me to block my walking. I looked up at the fellow and told him you are in my way. He JUMPED out of my way so quickly you wouldnt believe it. Other than that I never had any problems in the DR. Dominicans are NOT confrontational. Jamaicans are.

When I was in Jamaica I always hired a driver for the time I was there who had his own car. I would of course pick up all his meals and he dined with all of us every meal. Part of his job was keeping the others away from us and our table or beach mat. Well worth the price and I didn't even have to drive.

You can't even walk up in the cliffs without being hawked at so many times you can't count and this is even after dinner. We use to have dinner at one place and walk to another for coffee. Rough 5 minute walk. Coffee was great though. So if your interests are Pot and Coffee you may want to deal with Jamaica. More I talk about Jamaica the more I find I like

Scott

 

[sunnyvillas]

At first I found these annoying buggers charming, then I found these buggers NOT so charming, then I found them a pain in the arse, then I hated them, then I got rid of wife.

I first started going to Negril in the early 70's and stayed at Red Ground. Negril was a small charming place. As tourism grew so did everything negative associated with tourism. Last time I went which was 10 years ago these guys started lecturing me because I disrespected them by not even responding to their hawking of Marijuana. One thing I can say for Jamaica is that if you are looking to get stoned out of your cotton pickin mind you have found your paradise. I prefer some other things in life on occassion.

Same thing will happen in the DR as tourism grows. I laugh when I have read here that people won't return to Sosua because of annoying people on the street down to the beach. This is so mellow compared to Jamaica I have to laugh. One time I had a fellow stand in front of me to block my walking. I looked up at the fellow and told him you are in my way. He JUMPED out of my way so quickly you wouldnt believe it. Other than that I never had any problems in the DR. Dominicans are NOT confrontational. Jamaicans are.

When I was in Jamaica I always hired a driver for the time I was there who had his own car. I would of course pick up all his meals and he dined with all of us every meal. Part of his job was keeping the others away from us and our table or beach mat. Well worth the price and I didn't even have to drive.

You can't even walk up in the cliffs without being hawked at so many times you can't count and this is even after dinner. We use to have dinner at one place and walk to another for coffee. Rough 5 minute walk. Coffee was great though. So if your interests are Pot and Coffee you may want to deal with Jamaica. More I talk about Jamaica the more I find I like

Scott

I see now, so you are talking about 10 years ago and beleive me, things has changed since and for the best also. I use to complain to Jamaica tourist board about the constang naggings of tourists and many other things that has bothered me and my clients has been addressed.

I was just there this winter and had some VIPs with me from Air Canda Vacation, who hasn't been to Jamaica for only 3 years and after she came back from the market in Ocho Rios, she was trully disapointed, that nobody had approached her to buy anything )) She said it's not the same fun as they are way too timid.

So , may be you should try it again. And I think if you want to get stoned out of your mind, you can do it anywhere in the world, doesn't have to be Jamaica, as you put it. I don't think that's the only reason people go to the beautiful Island is just to get stoned.
Sorry, just my opinion, as I work there most of the time. As you said yourself, you have to laugh, that people do not come back to Sosua because they are bothered on the street, which I have experienced myself, but still love DR also for totaly different reasons, that I love Jamaica.

May be it was just your ex-wife and not Jamaica))
All the best!!! and see you oneof this days in Sosua and have a drink or 3 at Rocky's and discuss this further))

All the best
Rimma

 

[Escott]

I see now, so you are talking about 10 years ago and beleive me, things has changed since and for the best also. I use to complain to Jamaica tourist board about the constang naggings of tourists and many other things that has bothered me and my clients has been addressed.

I was just there this winter and had some VIPs with me from Air Canda Vacation, who hasn't been to Jamaica for only 3 years and after she came back from the market in Ocho Rios, she was trully disapointed, that nobody had approached her to buy anything )) She said it's not the same fun as they are way too timid.

So , may be you should try it again. And I think if you want to get stoned out of your mind, you can do it anywhere in the world, doesn't have to be Jamaica, as you put it. I don't think that's the only reason people go to the beautiful Island is just to get stoned.
Sorry, just my opinion, as I work there most of the time. As you said yourself, you have to laugh, that people do not come back to Sosua because they are bothered on the street, which I have experienced myself, but still love DR also for totaly different reasons, that I love Jamaica.

May be it was just your ex-wife and not Jamaica))
All the best!!! and see you oneof this days in Sosua and have a drink or 3 at Rocky's and discuss this further))

All the best
Rimma

The people aren't as pretty in Jamaica either! TAKE THAT! LOL

My next venture other than DR is Ecuador. Went to Cuba last month and the ONLY other place in the area I want to go to see is Ecuador now.

Scott

 

[sunnyvillas]

The people aren't as pretty in Jamaica either! TAKE THAT! LOL

My next venture other than DR is Ecuador. Went to Cuba last month and the ONLY other place in the area I want to go to see is Ecuador now.

Scott

Well, I have to disagree on the people part. I was involved in organizing MsJamaica few years ago and let me tell you, WOW!!!! And as much as I do not care for black men, some of them are stunning and in a gretest shape)) ROFL

How didi youlike Cuba, my last visit there was in 1997, haven't been since.
Remind me too much about being back in Russia))

 

[Escott]

Well, I have to disagree on the people part. I was involved in organizing MsJamaica few years ago and let me tell you, WOW!!!! And as much as I do not care for black men, some of them are stunning and in a gretest shape)) ROFL

How didi youlike Cuba, my last visit there was in 1997, haven't been since.
Remind me too much about being back in Russia))

Glad I went to see, won't go back until Castro Croaks and they say I can buy R.E. there. I would love to buy and renovate/restore a building in Havana. I would love to hang out in a "free" Havana where people didn't get arrested for talking to gringos which is against the law and where people line up at restaurants so the waiters will give them your leftovers in a piece of newspaper.

That was Cuba for me in a nutshell.

Scott

 

[marymack]

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesus Rimma, I have to tell you I have been to Jamaica 15 times and I even got married there so I do talk somewhat from experience. If you think they leave you alone with a simple no thanks that ain't even close and I wonder what planet you were on when you visited there.

After 2 weeks in Jamaica, I don't want no STANKIN GONJA, I AIN'T your STANKIN BROTHER and I hate FLUCKIN REGGAE! I don't ever want to SEE another Jamaican let alone SPEAK to one for a Friggin YEAR after going there and then when I return I wonder how FREAKIN STUPID ""I" was for going back to begin with.

Now to give a bit more of a comparison, the people are NOT have as pleasant looking as Dominicans, I wouldn't trust Jamaicans as far as I can throw them, if you befriend one you may find that they stashed dope in your suitcase to take back to the states without your knowledge.

Gosh, how did I get on this? LOL

Scott

Escott,
I am a little surprise at your post. From reading the board for sometime now, I would have judged you to be a fair minded person, passionate about the things you believe in, but fair none the less.

Its too bad you feel like that about a whole nation of people from your experience with a few. I am sorry you had such a negative experience, but let me assure you, most Jamaicans are not as you describe. The majority of Jamaicans do not sell Ganga. They will however try to sell you just about anything else. Like the DR, Jamaica is a poor country and people will do a lot of things to try and feed their children.
The Jamaican culture is very community oriented, with an extended family that included everyone who is even remotely connected. Much depends on that link because there are no social programs to fall back on. Once you are accepted into that community there is not much they wouldn't do for you.

 

[sunnyvillas]

I have to agree with you Scott,

I would also love to hang out in a "free" Havana and talk to people. I found them being even more scared of the Russian people than Americans or Canadians, but that was my feel. It nearly broke my heart to see a musician, who is the first violin in the Havana orchestra walking around in the ripped us shoes and his friend, a dostor, singing along on malicon with him to make extra money.

We also got held up in the police station and being arrested for driving in a friend's car and not alocal taxi. And the restaurants, well unless you want to have just chicken or pork in the local paladas, you are fine, otherwise they have to close the doors behind you in the room you eat, so they don't get in trupble.

As I said, it reminded me of living back in Russia in the 60's . What a shame, such a beautiful country and people that are full of life and I would love to come back, but hate to be restricted in where, when and how I can travle, can't do that, that's why I left Russia in the first place!

I nearly bought a house when there, but then you have aproblem to register it, even as Canadian and god only knows what Castro has in mind,a s I think he will live forever.....

 

[Escott]

Escott,
I am a little surprise at your post. From reading the board for sometime now, I would have judged you to be a fair minded person, passionate about the things you believe in, but fair none the less.

Its too bad you feel like that about a whole nation of people from your experience with a few. I am sorry you had such a negative experience, but let me assure you, most Jamaicans are not as you describe. The majority of Jamaicans do not sell Ganga. They will however try to sell you just about anything else. Like the DR, Jamaica is a poor country and people will do a lot of things to try and feed their children.

The Jamaican culture is very community oriented, with an extended family that included everyone who is even remotely connected. Much depends on that link because there are no social programs to fall back on. Once you are accepted into that community there is not much they wouldn't do for you.

I truly believe that hussling the tourists ranks in the top five of industries in Jamaica. It doesn't matter if they ALL DON'T sell gonja but I would bet you that you couldnt walk in Negril from Ricks cafe to the beach without being asked 10x if you wanted to buy Gonja or something else that can be just as much fun. I haven't been there in quite a while but these were my experiences when I was.

I understand that it is a poor country and this is what they have to do to feed their children and I appreciate that. I just find it intolerable. I NEVER found the DR intollerable with few exceptions such as pulling up to the casino in my car parking and walking INTO the casino and the dope says "CONCHO"? and similar circumstances to that. I don't hate the whole country because of Motor Conchos but I hate Motor Conchos! LOL

I don't have a problem with Jamaican people at all. Over Easter Holiday I had friend name Gillian come to the DR who I have been friendly with for years who is Jamaican and hung out with her like I always do. Many people on this board have met her and had dinner with her also. She is delightful.

This is not about the Jamaican people but it is about my enjoyment while staying in Jamaica. Most of the people in Jamaica are not a pain in the *** but when you walk by these guys hustling and don't feel like even looking at the 3rd or 4th person that is trying to sell you pot they start to lecture you for disrespecting them.

Personally I don't like Jamaica because of the many people that JUST WONT LEAVE YOU ALONE. I like all the people that DO leave me alone which is the Majority!

Scott

 

[Escott]

I have to agree with you Scott,

I would also love to hang out in a "free" Havana and talk to people. I found them being even more scared of the Russian people than Americans or Canadians, but that was my feel. It nearly broke my heart to see a musician, who is the first violin in the Havana orchestra walking around in the ripped us shoes and his friend, a dostor, singing along on malicon with him to make extra money.

We also got held up in the police station and being arrested for driving in a friend's car and not alocal taxi. And the restaurants, well unless you want to have just chicken or pork in the local paladas, you are fine, otherwise they have to close the doors behind you in the room you eat, so they don't get in trupble.

As I said, it reminded me of living back in Russia in the 60's . What a shame, such a beautiful country and people that are full of life and I would love to come back, but hate to be restricted in where, when and how I can travle, can't do that, that's why I left Russia in the first place!

I nearly bought a house when there, but then you have aproblem to register it, even as Canadian and god only knows what Castro has in mind,a s I think he will live forever.....

Hey at least we agree on one thing

I was told that Doctors and Dentist and other professional women suppliment their meager incomes by being prostitutes on the side. What a terrible way to live without any choices. For all that thought Cuba's communism is/was sucessful really need to see it live. What a terrible place to be. The people are so scared with the exception of some that pay off the police it just makes you want to cry.

You can't help but wonder what kind of city it will be after Castro. When I was traveling the city I couldn't help but think it was probably one of the most beautiful cities in the world before he got there. The entire city is literally crumbling, the people are starving, the economy is based on US Dollars which is the only currency they accept which I found even a bit sarcastic. They have a tremendous amount of dollars coming in and I just wonder where it goes. Only thing in perfect condition were things to do with the Revolution. I am not talking about Castro's revolution either, this country has a backbone of just "Revolutions" that have been going on for over 100 years. No one has lasted as long as Castro. He must have been ruling with the BIGGEST IRON FIST to have stayed in power all these years. The government charges you something like 100k US to get a relative out of the country. What an unbelievable Country Cuba is.

Scott

 

[marymack]

I truly believe that hussling the tourists ranks in the top five of industries in Jamaica. It doesn't matter if they ALL DON'T sell gonja but I would bet you that you couldnt walk in Negril from Ricks cafe to the beach without being asked 10x if you wanted to buy Gonja or something else that can be just as much fun. I haven't been there in quite a while but these were my experiences when I was.

I understand that it is a poor country and this is what they have to do to feed their children and I appreciate that. I just find it intolerable. I NEVER found the DR intollerable with few exceptions such as pulling up to the casino in my car parking and walking INTO the casino and the dope says "CONCHO"? and similar circumstances to that. I don't hate the whole country because of Motor Conchos but I hate Motor Conchos! LOL

I don't have a problem with Jamaican people at all. Over Easter Holiday I had friend name Gillian come to the DR who I have been friendly with for years who is Jamaican and hung out with her like I always do. Many people on this board have met her and had dinner with her also. She is delightful.

This is not about the Jamaican people but it is about my enjoyment while staying in Jamaica. Most of the people in Jamaica are not a pain in the *** but when you walk by these guys hustling and don't feel like even looking at the 3rd or 4th person that is trying to sell you pot they start to lecture you for disrespecting them.

Personally I don't like Jamaica because of the many people that JUST WONT LEAVE YOU ALONE. I like all the people that DO leave me alone which is the Majority!

Scott

I see your point. No one likes to be harrased especially when they are on vacation. I guess being Jamaican myself I can relate more to their plight.

Miranda

 

[Escott]

I see your point. No one likes to be harrased especially when they are on vacation. I guess being Jamaican myself I can relate more to their plight.Miranda

Oh, I relate to their plight for sure. Being on vacation and looking to relax and being relaxed gets spoiled by these people constantly bothering you. I especially don't want to be harrassed on the beach even by women looking to do up my hair and my hair is very short.

I understand that it is an integral part of the economy but if it causes people NOT to return, do you think this is good for the country? The comment about Reggae is that when you are in Jamaica for 2 weeks that is all you hear. No change of pace. It is not that I don't like Reggae because I do but I need to hear some Jazz, Rock or even classical music to enjoy on occassion.

Regards,
Scott

 

[sunnyvillas]

I truly believe that hussling the tourists ranks in the top five of industries in Jamaica. It doesn't matter if they ALL DON'T sell gonja but I would bet you that you couldnt walk in Negril from Ricks cafe to the beach without being asked 10x if you wanted to buy Gonja or something else that can be just as much fun. I haven't been there in quite a while but these were my experiences when I was.

I understand that it is a poor country and this is what they have to do to feed their children and I appreciate that. I just find it intolerable. I NEVER found the DR intollerable with few exceptions such as pulling up to the casino in my car parking and walking INTO the casino and the dope says "CONCHO"? and similar circumstances to that. I don't hate the whole country because of Motor Conchos but I hate Motor Conchos! LOL

I don't have a problem with Jamaican people at all. Over Easter Holiday I had friend name Gillian come to the DR who I have been friendly with for years who is Jamaican and hung out with her like I always do. Many people on this board have met her and had dinner with her also. She is delightful.

This is not about the Jamaican people but it is about my enjoyment while staying in Jamaica. Most of the people in Jamaica are not a pain in the *** but when you walk by these guys hustling and don't feel like even looking at the 3rd or 4th person that is trying to sell you pot they start to lecture you for disrespecting them.

Personally I don't like Jamaica because of the many people that JUST WONT LEAVE YOU ALONE. I like all the people that DO leave me alone which is the Majority!

Scott

I am glad you said it yourself, that you get hustled in DR also and I am sure it is pretty well the same as it is inJ amaica.

May be you should try it again and I will send you to a villa in Mobay or Ochi , instead of going to Negril, that became mostly all inclusive place and the locals there hustle more, knowing that.

You should not knock it before you try. May be this winter, we should go together and share a villa and you will see how wonderful Jamaica can be, MON))))

I am not sure why , but nobody bothers me there, I guess I look like I belong, LOL.....

 

[Escott]

I am glad you said it yourself, that you get hustled in DR also and I am sure it is pretty well the same as it is inJ amaica.

May be you should try it again and I will send you to a villa in Mobay or Ochi , instead of going to Negril, that became mostly all inclusive place and the locals there hustle more, knowing that.

You should not knock it before you try. May be this winter, we should go together and share a villa and you will see how wonderful Jamaica can be, MON))))

I am not sure why , but nobody bothers me there, I guess I look like I belong, LOL.....

I wouldnt go to Mobay. Heck the people bite there! You can't even get into the beach without being eaten up.

I never found the DR as bothersome as I did Montego Bay or Negril. If I did I would probably be living in Costa Rica. My only travel plans at the moment is Ecuador. I really have no urge to go to Jamaica but thanks for the offer.

Scott

 

[Gregg]

dying to know!!!

Your two cents are a little too late. This thread was started two years ago, and we spent last winter in the DR. I would suggest that you read through DR1 a bit more before giving advice on two year old posts.

Well, this ol' post has been diverted and seems to have a life of its own. Would it be too much to ask how things went? What did you decide? Where are you now? I'd like to see more follow ups from people considering moving to the DR...it would be very helpful to us.

So...tell us how it went. Are you in Costa Rica now?

 

[mainer]

Well, this ol' post has been diverted and seems to have a life of its own. Would it be too much to ask how things went? What did you decide? Where are you now? I'd like to see more follow ups from people considering moving to the DR...it would be very helpful to us.

So...tell us how it went. Are you in Costa Rica now?

Sorry, I meant this to be a pm

 

[marymack]

Escott,

I was born in Jamaica, grew up in England and now live in Florida. When I visit Jamaica I am a tourist, also subject to the same kind of harassment. Does this type of behavior have a negitive impact on the tourist trade, I don't know. I would say that this type of behavior is typical of poor countries such as Jamaica and the DR.

I have not been to the DR yet (hope to do so at Christmas), but I believe that the two countries are probably comparable.

As for Reggae, what can I say, I am Jamaican, I can listen to Reggae all day every day. How do you handle marangue (spelling) music?


Miranda

Oh, I relate to their plight for sure. Being on vacation and looking to relax and being relaxed gets spoiled by these people constantly bothering you. I especially don't want to be harrassed on the beach even by women looking to do up my hair and my hair is very short.

I understand that it is an integral part of the economy but if it causes people NOT to return, do you think this is good for the country? The comment about Reggae is that when you are in Jamaica for 2 weeks that is all you hear. No change of pace. It is not that I don't like Reggae because I do but I need to hear some Jazz, Rock or even classical music to enjoy on occassion.

Regards,
Scott

 

[sunnyvillas]

Scott,

I think they are telling us something here)

Sorry didn't mean to bring Jamaica into that or Cuba, but I thought we are all here to share))