New USA 10% Tariff question when using a freight forwarder in Miami for orders from China

[playacaribe2]

The exporter pays the tariff? Am I misreading this? A web search indicates the importer pays the tariff, and thus the concern of then passing on that added cost to the end consumers.

They are both true.

In the case of most products coming in under deminimus rules (under $800 declared value), which are likely most products people are referring to here, the exporter would be responsible for remitting payment upon entry. With companies like TEMU and SHEIN sending hundreds of thousands of small parcels daily, it would be an impossible feat to try and collect the import tax from every individual as these parcels enter the US. The exporter either collects it by raising the price of their goods to the consumer or they absorb the cost and pay it themselves.

On larger big ticket items or containered goods sent to an importer in the US, the tax would then be paid by the importer....and ostensibly passed on in price to the end user.

But for purposes of discussion here, it would be impossible for the government to try and collect it on smaller deminimus items............which is likely why they put the tax on hold.




Respectfully,
Playacaribe2

 

[SKY]

They are both true.

In the case of most products coming in under deminimus rules (under $800 declared value), which are likely most products people are referring to here, the exporter would be responsible for remitting payment upon entry. With companies like TEMU and SHEIN sending hundreds of thousands of small parcels daily, it would be an impossible feat to try and collect the import tax from every individual as these parcels enter the US. The exporter either collects it by raising the price of their goods to the consumer or they absorb the cost and pay it themselves.

On larger big ticket items or containered goods sent to an importer in the US, the tax would then be paid by the importer....and ostensibly passed on in price to the end user.

But for purposes of discussion here, it would be impossible for the government to try and collect it on smaller deminimus items............which is likely why they put the tax on hold.




Respectfully,
Playacaribe2

NONSENSE.
the exporter does not pay the tariff. The importer pays tariffs to the government, and then passes the cost on to consumers.

 

[SKY]

Who pays the tariff directly:
The company responsible for importing goods into a country (the importer) is legally obligated to pay the tariff to the customs authority................

 

[playacaribe2]

NONSENSE.
the exporter does not pay the tariff. The importer pays tariffs to the government, and then passes the cost on to consumers.

Please read the third sentence of my post carefully.

If there is an importer, and importers must be registered, then they, the importers will pay the tariff.

But, who is the importer if the op buys goods direct from Chinese companies like Alibaba, Temu, Shein. The answer is the individual doing the buying. How will the US government collect that tax from the hundreds of thousands of small ticket items coming in daily under deminimus rules. Send an invoice to the buyer?

That 10% tariff on deminimus goods is on hold until they figure out a way to collect it.......................and that way being discussed is to apply Rules of Origin taxing on deminimus goods relating back to the exporter...........who will either increase its prices to reflect the tax or reduce its profit margins to protect market share.


Respectfully,
Playacaribe2

 

[SKY]

Please read the third sentence of my post carefully.

If there is an importer, and importers must be registered, then they, the importers will pay the tariff.

But , who is the importer if the op buys goods direct from Chinese companies like alibaba, Temu, Shein. The answer is the individual doing the buying. How will the US government collect that tax from the hundreds of thousands of small ticket items coming in daily under deminimus rules. Send an invoice to the buyer?

That 10% tariff on deminimus goods is on hold until they figure out a way to collect it.......................and that way being discussed is to apply Rules of Origin taxing on deminimus goods relating back to the exporter...........who will either increase its prices to reflect the tax or reduce its profit margins to protect market share.


Respectfully,
Playacaribe2

More Hot Air from you.................

 

[playacaribe2]

More Hot Air from you.................

Nice deflection.

Now that is more like your typical responses here. Keep up the good work.

Who is the importer SKY if the OP orders from Alibaba in China?

Don't bother answering if all you got is a personal attack.



Respectfully,
Playacaribe2

 

[SKY]

Nice deflection.

Now that is more like your typical responses here. Keep up the good work.

Who is the importer SKY if the OP orders from Alibaba in China?

Don't bother answering if all you got is a personal attack.



Respectfully,
Playacaribe2

The US of course. Look anyone wants the correct answer here just Google it and you will have it in 30 seconds. The Importer pays the Tariff......................

 

[cavok]

I think it's pretty obvious that the de minimis exemption wasn't very well thought out.

 

[bob saunders]

The US of course. Look anyone wants the correct answer here just Google it and you will have it in 30 seconds. The Importer pays the Tariff......................

Then passes it on to the consumer.

 

[cavok]

Then passes it on to the consumer.

That true when the importer is bringing in bulk items like steel, rice, etc., but if the importer is the consumer, technically the consumer has to pay it - unless they work something different out.

 

[Tarheel]

The 10% tariff would be collected and be due and payable by the Chinese exporter before being allowed entry to a final destination in the US. It does not matter that the goods are then being sent out of the country. The 10% tax is applicable under the Rules of Origin to goods arriving into the US from China.

Note that the 10% deminimis goods tariff, applicable to products under $800 USD has been put on hold while they establish procedures to collect it on the hundreds of thousands of small dollar packages coming into the US daily.

Whether the Chinese raise the price of their products to adjust for the tariff or absorb the increase and decrease profit margins……remains to be seen.

Suffice to say the majority of products currently being brought in by the freight forwarders via the US will not be subject to the tax….for the moment.

Respectfully,
Playacaribe2

The tariff is paid by the importer of record, not the exporter.

 

[windeguy]

One says the exporter pays, the other says the importer pays. It has to be one or the other.

At the end we will pay, but which of the above is it?

 

[SKY]

One says the exporter pays, the other says the importer pays. It has to be one or the other.

At the end we will pay, but which of the above is it?

All you need to do is one minute of research and you will find out it is the importer that pays the tariff.....................

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The importer pays the tariff, not the exporter. Tariffs are taxes on imported goods, and the importer pays the tax to their home country's government.

 

[windeguy]

All you need to do is one minute of research and you will find out it is the importer that pays the tariff.....................

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The importer pays the tariff, not the exporter. Tariffs are taxes on imported goods, and the importer pays the tax to their home country's government.

Exactly as I suspected. So in the case of AliExpress items from China sent to EPS: EPS will pay the tariff to someone that drops off the package in Florida, and pass it on as part of the fees the receiver of the goods in the DR will pay. Of course that will be added to the value of the item for DR purposes and the $200 USD limit for avoiding duty here that was have grown to know and love.

Good luck with that working smoothly.

 

[SKY]

Windy is correct there. But lets look at buying from Amazon and Ebay products imported from China. Which is a lot. There the tariff will already be paid by the US sellers on the sites. So guess what, you will pay higher adjusted prices for anything from China on Amazon and Ebay..........

 

[windeguy]

Windy is correct there. But lets look at buying from Amazon and Ebay products imported from China. Which is a lot. There the tariff will already be paid by the US sellers on the sites. So guess what, you will pay higher adjusted prices for anything from China on Amazon and Ebay..........

Amazon, Ebay or any other company shipping a product already in the USA have zero to do with my original question.

It is about shipping from China to a US Freight forwarder in Florida that sends the items to the DR and how that will be handled.

 

[SKY]

Amazon, Ebay or any other company shipping a product already in the USA have zero to do with my original question.

It is about shipping from China to a US Freight forwarder in Florida that sends the items to the DR and how that will be handled.

Excuse me, I was not aware that I can't direct an answer to anyone else on this thread..........