Next minister of Interior & Police says government will apply the law

[Caonabo]

Approaching 500 postings within this thread line, and we have discussed tourists who do not want to go home in a timely fashion, and the immigration law as it may apply to those Haitian nationals, but not one word of the Venezuelan situation that exists within the RD, and how this may play out for them.

 

[windeguy]

How of elimination of the 30 day tourist card, and the implementation of the 6 month tourist card?
Would we not experience the same swinging pendulum that exists, when 6 month and 1 day arrives?

Not if you deny people that overstay even a snowbird visa that lasted 6 months reentry.

No reason to get ahead of ourselves. The new government has said they will enforce the laws as they are.
No need for new ones. According to the OP.

 

[windeguy]

Approaching 500 postings within this thread line, and we have discussed tourists who do not want to go home in a timely fashion, and the immigration law as it may apply to those Haitian nationals, but not one word of the Venezuelan situation that exists within the RD, and how this may play out for them.

If they are illegal and discovered, they could be deported. Why do they need a separate discourse? Venezuelans are not very prevalent on the north coast with the exception of the good BBQ place I used to go to called Crazy Ranch.

 

[windeguy]

What is the issue with the snowbird visa? Is it money or controlled entry? What I have read addresses one but not the other. It replaces one arbitrary amount of time with another. What problem are we trying to solve?

I was told it had something to do with Haitians, but I have no idea why it would. To me, the people working in Migracion simply were not able to walk and chew gum at the same time and unable to come up with a good solution for snowbirds. .

Perhaps the laws will be enforced as written soon after tomorrow?

I expect what people hope for and what actually happens will be two different things.

 

[william webster]

Venezuelans are no different than Cdns or Americans....

All benefit from the risk reduction of becoming legal w/ a longer visa

 

[windeguy]

That's what I keep asking---

when does a tourist or visitor become a squatter !!???

At the moment a tourist legally becomes a squatter on day 31 when coming in on a tourist card. What will tomorrow bring?

 

[windeguy]

Venezuelans are no different than Cdns or Americans....

All benefit from the risk reduction of becoming legal w/ a longer visa

I am not sure, but I think I recall the DR stopping the flow of Venezuelans into the DR. Could have been a regulation outside the law was used.

 

[william webster]

I define squatters as longer term overstayers....
the type that rarely leave

Snowbirds... No....
Squatters are akin to Scofflaws

 

[TropicalPaul]

Of course if you're running businesses and so forth you should legalize yourself

So basically you are agreeing that people who run businesses, own properties, are buying properties, have children in the country should legalize themselves?

 

[windeguy]

I define squatters as longer term overstayers....
the type that rarely leave

Snowbirds... No....
Squatters are akin to Scofflaws

I could go along with that, but then I would be outside the law if I did.

 

[TropicalPaul]

Venezuelans are no different than Cdns or Americans....

All benefit from the risk reduction of becoming legal w/ a longer visa

The main difference is that most Venezuelans are coming to DR to work. There is a difference between migrants who come to spend money, and migrants who come to earn money and therefore take away jobs from the locals.

 

[Yourmaninvegas]

The DRGOV should institute the immigration policies that are best for the objectives the country is seeking thru them.

 

[Andre14615]

So basically you are agreeing that people who run businesses, own properties, are buying properties, have children in the country should legalize themselves?

I agreed that it would be a reasonable thing to do if you own businesses there. The rest of that stuff it's a waste of time.

 

[aarhus]

The DRGOV should institute the immigration policies that are best for the objectives the country is seeking thru them.

Absolutely. Lets wish them luck. It will not be easy

 

[GusFring]

Again, I personally do not stand to gain from the implementation of a long term visa agreement for those tourists who wish to make believe they reside here within RD.
I would only like to see a higher class of tourist visit. We do not need more low hanging fruit in my opinion.

Higher class of tourist is an oxymoron. Higher end doesn't fill the AI's in Punta Cana which drive the engine.

Higher class of tourist is such a tiny percentage of overall tourists. Its 5% of the total if that.

The tour bookers and the vacation package groups and the corporate outings drive the bus.

A higher class of tourist is not the model the DR is based upon. That will remain unchanged.

 

[Big]

Higher class of tourist is an oxymoron. Higher end doesn't fill the AI's in Punta Cana which drive the engine.

Higher class of tourist is such a tiny percentage of overall tourists. Its 5% of the total if that.

The tour bookers and the vacation package groups and the corporate outings drive the bus.

A higher class of tourist is not the model the DR is based upon. That will remain unchanged.

The higher end tourist has too many other options, st lucia,st Barth etc .You will not see the UMC ( upper middle class) feeding at the troughs in the AIs or walking the streets of Sosua taking in the ambiance

 

[johne]

Higher class of tourist is an oxymoron. Higher end doesn't fill the AI's in Punta Cana which drive the engine.

Higher class of tourist is such a tiny percentage of overall tourists. Its 5% of the total if that.

The tour bookers and the vacation package groups and the corporate outings drive the bus.

A higher class of tourist is not the model the DR is based upon. That will remain unchanged.

I assume you are a low class tourist that does not fall within the 5 % figure (that you drew from a hat.) Is that correct? Have you ever stayed in boutique hotels? Ever meet university grads? Have you eaten in real "5 "star restaurants or shopped in luxe malls? Ever stayed at the weekend places that los Ricos stay at? rRch or wannabe rich tourist also stay there amigo. I used to think the way you think years ago. Then I saw another way. A way that you will NEVER see because every post you make is negative. Negative. And more negative. You are so hung up on who "drives the bus" that you will never see the real DR.
And you generally end your posts with a line of unsubstantiated BS opinion. Who are YOU to say the DR "will remain unchanged"? Tell me who do you think is listening to you or respects you?
I can back up everything I have stated here but quite honestly I don't feel I should give you the time. I don't like you and I'm sorry to say that. Have a wonderful evening wherever you are.

 

[aarhus]

The DR has a high end market and middle and low end to. Its the most diverse in the Caribbean. They need to do all segments and I think thats what they are doing.

 

[aarhus]

The higher end tourist has too many other options, st lucia,st Barth etc .You will not see the UMC ( upper middle class) feeding at the troughs in the AIs or walking the streets of Sosua taking in the ambiance

When it comes to the high end anglo English speaking there are many competitors in the Caribbean but maybe the dr appeals more to the latin high end crowd and you see it in the capital with more high end hotels and with Casa de Campo and Cap Cana the competition being maybe more the Miami crowd.

 

[bob saunders]

The higher end tourist has too many other options, st lucia,st Barth etc .You will not see the UMC ( upper middle class) feeding at the troughs in the AIs or walking the streets of Sosua taking in the ambiance

Perhaps not but there are many places in the DR that cater to higher end $$$ tourists. Some of the Villas are too expensive for the average tourist to afford and same for some of the more exclusive hotels.