Alot of hard work to live in the ghetto.
His Royal Majesty, Lord Belly Button Kidney Bean, House of Donkey Kong
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Orgullo ............ but I run
His Royal Majesty, Lord Belly Button Kidney Bean, House of Donkey Kong
Mmmh...... salary for a waiter in switzerland, 4000 $..... in the dr, 4000 pesos...... that might be a reason to leave.... or maybe not 
As for the reason people dont do anything about the " problems "...... same as any other country, yes, yes even the US. Only in the US ( or europe for that matter ), throw the pueblo an iphone, a TV with 23 000 cannels and lots of greazy food and they are content. Once in a while they wake up amd birn some stuff and rant amd rave.......and go back to the couch.
Same as in the dr.
I'd bet the individuals that compose our western society are no where near capable of doing it all over again ( as in dominating the world, figjt for civil rights......etc, etc ). We are simply living off what our ancestors fought for a hundred years ago, or even more for us europeans.
As for comparaison with the dr, we expats just have higher expectations on the minimal of acceptability.
We dont mind bankers and co ripping us off for BILLIONS back home, but it annoys us when fulano the syndico robs a couple of million pesos to buy a jeepeta.....
So please bear in mind most of us are EXACTLY the same as dominicans....... it just takes a few more scrappings to satisfy us and pretend we have a more comftable life....
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As for the reason people dont do anything about the " problems "...... same as any other country, yes, yes even the US. Only in the US ( or europe for that matter ), throw the pueblo an iphone, a TV with 23 000 cannels and lots of greazy food and they are content. Once in a while they wake up amd birn some stuff and rant amd rave.......and go back to the couch.
Same as in the dr.
I'd bet the individuals that compose our western society are no where near capable of doing it all over again ( as in dominating the world, figjt for civil rights......etc, etc ). We are simply living off what our ancestors fought for a hundred years ago, or even more for us europeans.
As for comparaison with the dr, we expats just have higher expectations on the minimal of acceptability.
We dont mind bankers and co ripping us off for BILLIONS back home, but it annoys us when fulano the syndico robs a couple of million pesos to buy a jeepeta.....
So please bear in mind most of us are EXACTLY the same as dominicans....... it just takes a few more scrappings to satisfy us and pretend we have a more comftable life....
End of rant
Whatever gets you through the night friend, but me and mine have very little in common with Dominicans.
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It didn't take me long, during my 6th grade winter vacation, before deciding I never wanted to go back home, at least not where my family lives.
I found myself surrounded by religious yahoos who forced me to convert. When it was obvious I had no intention of follwing ANY of the claustrophobic, mind-numbing tenets or spending hours every day listening to a pastor ranting and raving on the radio, I was soon excommunicated. Then there was the provincial, superstitous mindsets of the average person, and how utterly devoid many were of any type of sense of urgency (I cannot handle island time). I left and returned only as an adult.
Now it's different. I would definitely live there if I had an income similar to the US. because that would put me outside the world of the campo. Do I fly the flag with pride? I love my culture, but I've yet to attend a parade honoring my homeland. Any parade that would have Evelyn Lozada as a guest on one of their floats can cancel my invitation anytime.
But the Dominican diaspora is different. With a couple of dollars in their pocket they feel the whole island belongs to them, despite the fact that many have families who live in busted-ass barrios. They love going home and flossing like they got it like that. Lording their meager possessions and having the poor of their country be jealous of them is a pastime many take great passion in, which is a big difference from Puerto Rico. In Puerto Rico, no one cares if you show up with some stupid looking oversized Kenneth Cole watch and an expensive cell phone.
And if I had a dollar for every Section 8 idiot from the Bronx who said their family was wealthy and prominent back in the DR, or that they're decendants of Trujillo, or they are members of a family that own half of Santiago...the bullshyte is endless.
I found myself surrounded by religious yahoos who forced me to convert. When it was obvious I had no intention of follwing ANY of the claustrophobic, mind-numbing tenets or spending hours every day listening to a pastor ranting and raving on the radio, I was soon excommunicated. Then there was the provincial, superstitous mindsets of the average person, and how utterly devoid many were of any type of sense of urgency (I cannot handle island time). I left and returned only as an adult.
Now it's different. I would definitely live there if I had an income similar to the US. because that would put me outside the world of the campo. Do I fly the flag with pride? I love my culture, but I've yet to attend a parade honoring my homeland. Any parade that would have Evelyn Lozada as a guest on one of their floats can cancel my invitation anytime.
But the Dominican diaspora is different. With a couple of dollars in their pocket they feel the whole island belongs to them, despite the fact that many have families who live in busted-ass barrios. They love going home and flossing like they got it like that. Lording their meager possessions and having the poor of their country be jealous of them is a pastime many take great passion in, which is a big difference from Puerto Rico. In Puerto Rico, no one cares if you show up with some stupid looking oversized Kenneth Cole watch and an expensive cell phone.
And if I had a dollar for every Section 8 idiot from the Bronx who said their family was wealthy and prominent back in the DR, or that they're decendants of Trujillo, or they are members of a family that own half of Santiago...the bullshyte is endless.
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Agree with some but isn't JMBB (think that's the nick of that poster) Puerto Rican and always talks about his watches and big SUV?
Mostly agree with your assertion of Dominicans and the way some are perceived or rather wanted to be perceived.
Hooey!
China had Mao for the Great Leap Forward
VietNam had Ho Chi.Minh
Japan had the Marshall Plan
Cuba had Castro and the Revolution
Libya had Khadaffi
The US had the New Deal
USSR had Stalin.
South Africa had Botha and Mandela
And South Korea was a military dictatorship 30 years ago.
In most cases miraculous improvements needed 2 generations but drastic social, economic and political can be done in one generation. At least.creating the philosophical dogma and doctrine can be done in 1 generation. But all those countries wanted and needed to advance to become more manageable and less manipulated by other countries in foreign commerce and trade.
DR likes being a banana republic because ignorant and laZy people are easy to exploit and control.
His Royal Majesty, Lord Belly Button Kidney Bean, House of Donkey Kong
Well...imagine the scene without that Plan Ocho housing voucher? The slums would make 1920s LES living analogies obsolete.
His Royal Majesty, Lord Belly Button Kidney Bean, House of Donkey Kong
Actually most Dominicans thrive on the idea to one day comeback to the mothership. Immigration/migration is just a mean to an end for the most part.
And what does pride has to do with the OP anyways?
Oh, I agree with you but when will the day come and they say forget abandoning the mothership and let's make some changes on this island?
Don't get me wrong, not everyone runs off and leave. I know plenty of folks who struggle day to day but would not leave this island if you handed them a free plane ticket. These are the people who have genuine "orgullo".
I think that those with most pride are generally those with lesser ties to the country. They may have left at a young age, or dont return regularly and when they do they do so as tourist. This leads to a romanticized perspective of the Dominican reality. Those of us who live here and understand the brutal reality of life here carry no such illusions.
I am not proud of being Dominican, but I dont deny my heritage in Florida or anywhere while travelling for work. In New York where Dominicans are shameful in their conduct I refused to be identified with "them".
I am not proud of being Dominican, but I dont deny my heritage in Florida or anywhere while travelling for work. In New York where Dominicans are shameful in their conduct I refused to be identified with "them".
I am Americano living here. If I keep my mouth shut my caramel skin would have everyone believing I am a local. The love I see on this island of how family is so important. I have, you have. Yes we struggle ............ but we survive.
But some,,,,,,,,,,,, run off to use-ah thinking the grass is greener....... SMH
When you are at the bottom, anything else is better, at least I speak from experience...
Pardon me, but that is a rather obvious sign of stupidity and lack of common sense.
You do realize that the post you've alluded to as "nice," is swiming away from the currents of your OP and a total contrast to the post 4*4*4 replied to, right?
Although I disagree with every fiber of my being, I have to admit this one made me laugh out loud.