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keepcoming

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Some of these people really shouldn't be allowed to fly at all. Some are so obese or so invalid that, if the plane ever crash landed and there was a fire, or the plane had to ditch in the ocean, there'd be no way to get them off the plane. They'd be dead.
Utterly ridiculous statement.
 

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There is something called the ACAA (Air Carrier Access Act) which prohibits domestic and foreign carriers from discriminating against anyone with a physical/mental impairment. It is also up to the individual airlines to determine if wheelchair assistance (any type of assistance actually) is required. If the airline questions the validity of a disability (needing wheelchair assistance, etc) they can ask for documentation. I myself have a letter from my physician stating the reason why at times I may require assistance, and so does my nephew. Many make the request for assistance when making their reservations. As far as a plane needing to "ditch in the ocean" a so called obese/invalid individual is going to be the least of your worries.
 

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The point is that the world doesn't work as Big would "like it" to work. People with all sorts of disabilities travel by land, air and sea every single day. If their disability requires special attention that could "inconvenience" others, then so be it. Not everyone is a wimp and simply accept whatever curve ball life threw at them. Instead of letting the lemons life throws hit you in the face, you catch it and make lemonade.
well it just so happens that I don't consider obesity a disability that warrants special consideration. They in fact should be forced to pay more for encroaching on other seats. A person that cannot control their eating habits does not deserve concierge service in the name of a disability at the expense of responsible people. As a business traveler that flies often I always board when they announce the "pre-boarding" for people that need "special assistance". Of course, if an elderly person in a wheelchair is boarding, I yield. The other scam artists I jump right in front of. Never ever have I been told to wait. I fly 1st class and part of the cost covers boarding first thus obtaining premium overhead space.
 
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I traveled a lot, and wheelchair passengers were/are the least of my worries/issues when traveling. People who try to shove clearly oversized bags in the overhead bins (yes this happens in first class), those that do not pay attention or ignore the boarding process, etc... I could go on, but it is all off-topic... I said previously I do not disagree that wheelchair assistance is being abused but there is a lot more to it. But at no time should a person with any disability not be allowed to fly or made to feel less of a person for using assistance.
 

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I traveled a lot, and wheelchair passengers were/are the least of my worries/issues when traveling. People who try to shove clearly oversized bags in the overhead bins (yes this happens in first class), those that do not pay attention or ignore the boarding process, etc... I could go on, but it is all off-topic... I said previously I do not disagree that wheelchair assistance is being abused but there is a lot more to it. But at no time should a person with any disability not be allowed to fly or made to feel less of a person for using assistance.

For sure !! Many, many more arseholes than wheelchair users on any given plane.
 

JD Jones

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well it just so happens that I don't consider obesity a disability that warrants special consideration. They in fact should be forced to pay more for encroaching on other seats. A person that cannot control their eating habits does not deserve concierge service in the name of a disability at the expense of responsible people. As a business traveler that flies often I always board when they announce the "pre-boarding" for people that need "special assistance". Of course, if an elderly person in a wheelchair is boarding, I yield. The other scam artists I jump right in front of. Never ever have I been told to wait. I fly 1st class and part of the cost covers boarding first thus obtaining premium overhead space.
I walk on right after the wheelchairs and sit in my furthest-forward-emergency-exit-seat I booked online a few weeks before my flight.
I do that both ways, and I am almost always one of the first ones and one of the first off on every flight.
 

El Hijo de Manolo

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I walk on right after the wheelchairs and sit in my furthest-forward-emergency-exit-seat I booked online a few weeks before my flight.
I do that both ways, and I am almost always one of the first ones and one of the first off on every flight.
I never flew first class. Business when I worked in the Big 6. I always book an aisle seat by the wing. I always stop at the bar first before the gate. Things bother me much less that way.
 

keepcoming

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Cristo, the comment you made which was deleted (you know what it was)...never post that comment again on DR1.
 

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I am blessed with viewing the world as a form of cheap entertainment, which comes in especially handy during air travel. If the able bodied are willing to embarrass themselves in front of a couple of hundred people, I say bring it on.
 

El Hijo de Manolo

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I am blessed with viewing the world as a form of cheap entertainment, which comes in especially handy during air travel. If the able bodied are willing to embarrass themselves in front of a couple of hundred people, I say bring it on.
Careful what you wish for, you might just find yourself on the business end of some Karen losing it. You could be a star in one of those viral videos
 

slowmo

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Careful what you wish for, you might just find yourself on the business end of some Karen losing it. You could be a star in one of those viral videos
Karen is more likely to snap at someone who is angry at her. As Chauncey Gardner used to say "I like to watch"
 

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well it just so happens that I don't consider obesity a disability that warrants special consideration. They in fact should be forced to pay more for encroaching on other seats. A person that cannot control their eating habits does not deserve concierge service in the name of a disability at the expense of responsible people. As a business traveler that flies often I always board when they announce the "pre-boarding" for people that need "special assistance". Of course, if an elderly person in a wheelchair is boarding, I yield. The other scam artists I jump right in front of. Never ever have I been told to wait. I fly 1st class and part of the cost covers boarding first thus obtaining premium overhead space.
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I'm flying tomorrow, and limping my way to my economy seat.
But poor, poor pitiful me will pretend I'm not in pain. When I arrive at my destination, I'll be in excruciating pain, and no one will offer me a ride for two reasons: I'm always smiling, and I have the distinction of looking like a jerk and a fool at the same time.
 

El Hijo de Manolo

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I'm flying tomorrow, and limping my way to my economy seat.
But poor, poor pitiful me will pretend I'm not in pain. When I arrive at my destination, I'll be in excruciating pain, and no one will offer me a ride for two reasons: I'm always smiling, and I have the distinction of looking like a jerk and a fool at the same time.
This is truly deep end of the pool
 

Manuel01

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I am blessed with viewing the world as a form of cheap entertainment, which comes in especially handy during air travel. If the able bodied are willing to embarrass themselves in front of a couple of hundred people, I say bring it on.
Unfortunately "embarrassment" does not exist in the DR. They need to google it and still want understand the meaning of it.
 
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