Pedro Clisante at night is like a police state.

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Nicholas M

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I heard that this is more like a political game. I'm not sure if it's true or not.
Amet and army guys are federal enforcement, so it is the federal government who is trying to ruin Sosua, and the new provincial government. People think that all this change comes from the new officials in Sosua, so when election time comes people will reelect the previous one. Is this makes sence.
This is what I heard.
 

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I heard that this is more like a political game. I'm not sure if it's true or not.
Amet and army guys are federal enforcement, so it is the federal government who is trying to ruin Sosua, and the new provincial government. People think that all this change comes from the new officials in Sosua, so when election time comes people will reelect the previous one. Is this makes sence.
This is what I heard.

The new mayor was elected because a majority of the voters wanted her to do what she is doing. Those who voted her in are very happy.
 
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The DR has benefitted tremendously from the tourist industry, but that doesn't mean they want them to be an intergral part of their culture forever. It's not any different than in many other tourist destinations:

Travel | Resentment of tourists shows up worldwide, not just in Maldives | Seattle Times Newspaper

When I lived in Vermont, we always looked forward to "leaf-looker" season for the bump form tourism, but god, the "flatlanders" were terrible drivers and had no manners. I've also heard NYer's say they want "their" NY back and for the city to stop catering to a bunch of people who don't care about schools, mass transit or other local issues.

I don't think there would be so much of crack down in Sosua if the majority of weekend girls came from within 10 miles of town or if the hotels, bars and restaurants were all Dominican owned.
 

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Babi Bory has given to us his opinion on the Dominican women and their attitude towards foreigners - and in a lot of ways he is right. I really doubt about the percentage – my estimate is around 50% "of Dominican women only like, love, and truly adore either Dominican men or Puerto Rican men".

Well its close to the truth that local girls like Dominican men more than foreigners – the reason is simple the Dominicans "machos" are very good “in bed” it’s a well known info . Dominican women are used to the fact that there is no real love, there is passion (and great passion)between men and women. There are two confirmations to that postulate – first – you can talk into sex almost any woman married or unmarried with kids or without – just on the street or shop or caf? (I am not talking about PC street), you can do it if you will be honest with your feelings towards her that you will express yourself correctly (without the AA style of “making a conversation”), you have to be very persuasive that you want to have sex with her. The result will be positive – but not with all the women. That is why I estimate 50%. One remark to that - time of the conversation 20-30 minutes and "the result" within time to the nearest cabania. The second confirmation of my opinion is – have you noticed how many women here have children, but have you asked them - are they from one father or from different. 90-95% will say – different. Then ask yourself why.
Another very interesting fact – many Dominican women when they begin living with a foreigner they always introduce their closest family members. And it is normal all over the world ….. But then she tries to persuade the “loved one” that the closest and dearest should be living with her (or visit her every day). And always there is “a brother” or “an uncle” who is the dearest and the closest to her in the family ….. In fact he usually is her boy friend or her husband. You don’t need to be imaginative to understand what is going on in the house when the foreigner is gone out…..(this confirms the fact that foreigners without Viagra are not competitive to the locals in bed).

I have to add that I never went out with women from PC (although I helped a lot of my friends that were coming here for this reason only) and I always tried to pick up the “other ones” ….. And believe me they are telling stories about their life and about their “loved ones”. Not all but a lot.

And the last point. NY-commuter - why you consider your opinion as the only one that is correct?!? People sometimes make mistakes when they don’t know the details ….

You are entitled to your opinion Don..But what really scares me is how certain you are of how good these Dominican Machos are in bed:ermm:

And if you are scoring in bed with 50% of non putas, then I will pay you big $$$$ for you to teach me your Pick Up Artist secrets..
 
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uncle226

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Not necessarily so, if there is a law against protipution, and the woman is a known prospitute, she can be arrested for suspicion of soliciting.
So if a woman walks down the street to by milk or rice she can be put in the sosua pig sty of a jail till 5 am with no other Prof or legal hearing because someone think she a prostitute
 

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The new mayor was elected because a majority of the voters wanted her to do what she is doing. Those who voted her in are very happy.
I hope your property value go up but remember the new mayor seem to be able to make law up and change zoning at her will so don't cry when it your turn
 

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So if a woman walks down the street to by milk or rice she can be put in the sosua pig sty of a jail till 5 am with no other Prof or legal hearing because someone think she a prostitute

Dominican Law gives officials the right to hold anyone thought to be in the process of a crime for 48 hours with out due-process. I seriously doubt that any Dominican woman is going to Pedro Clisante at 9 at night just to buy milk and rice.

I don?t make the laws, just stating them. and just because I state them doesn?t mean that I agree with them. However, in this particular case I do agree with anything to clean up Sosua.
 

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Dominican Law gives officials the right to hold anyone thought to be in the process of a crime for 48 hours with out due-process. I seriously doubt that any Dominican woman is going to Pedro Clisante at 9 at night just to buy milk and rice.

I don?t make the laws, just stating them. and just because I state them doesn?t mean that I agree with them. However, in this particular case I do agree with anything to clean up Sosua.
I hope they do not decide to hold you for 48 Hours because you walk down the street at 9 at night
 
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The DR has benefited tremendously from the tourist industry, but that doesn't mean they want them to be an integral part of their culture forever.

When I lived in Vermont, we always looked forward to "leaf-looker" season for the bump form tourism, but god, the "flatlanders" were terrible drivers and had no manners.

I remember vividly the unique New England surliness of the "townies" I ran into from Vermont all the way up to Maine. All you had to do was say you were from somewhere else to trigger a negative reaction.

Especially irksome to them was the fact that we bathed more than once a week, didn't consider plaid a fashion statement and eschewed the obligatory trucker hats for a more progressive fade haircut.
 
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I hope they do not decide to hold you for 48 Hours because you walk down the street at 9 at night

I highly doubt they would hold me for 48 hours, and not because I have some family member in the government to have me released if they did, but because I?m an early bird. At eight at night I?m already at home with my kids, and not walking the streets looking for action.

Another reason for them not holding me and probably the most important one is that I?ve never been convicted of any crime, much less prostitution. In essence, I?m not perceived as a law breaker, nor as suspicious criminal to law enforment.
 
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I remember vividly the unique New England surliness of the "townies" I ran into from Vermont all the way up to Maine. All you had to do was say you were from somewhere else to trigger a negative reaction.

Especially irksome to them was the fact that we bathed more than once a week, didn't consider plaid a fashion statement and eschewed the obligatory trucker hats for a more progressive fade haircut.

That's New Hampshire.:cheeky: New Hampshire is weird in that they are into snow mobiles/NASCAR and is very much a tea-party state, while Vermont is more hippy urban refugees who do cross country and downhill skiing. The hippies could certainly do with more regular bathing.

Vermont definitely has some folks like you described, but the town I was in was full of cafes, book stores and art galleries. You might see some plaid shirts, trucker hats and mullets, but mostly on a woman's softball team(the mullet has since been replaced by the faux hawk). The college towns are a bit more welcoming since most of the folks in the service industries are transplants themselves.

The only tourist group that really ticked us off were when the Morris Dancers came to town twice a year. A bunch of drunks in silly white costumes with ribbons and bells crowding the locals out of the bars--they sang horrid whaling songs while they danced and waved some sticks and bandanas around.

YouTube - Morris Dancers

I imagine there are Dominicans who see some tourists as looking as silly as these guys.
 
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No sh!t, you get them in the US too? We have them in the UK but we tend to keep quiet about them, like the mad uncle in the attic.
 

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I highly doubt they would hold me for 48 hours, and not because I have some family member in the government to have me released if they did, but because I?m an early bird. At eight at night I?m already at home with my kids, and not walking the streets looking for action.

Another reason for them not holding me and probably the most important one is that I?ve never been convicted of any crime, much less prostitution. In essence, I?m not perceived as a law breaker, nor as suspicious criminal to law enforment.
to bad the poor unconnected girls are not as lucky as you maybe you can use your influence with your Family members to put a stop to the police state now in affect in sosua
 

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I hope your property value go up but remember the new mayor seem to be able to make law up and change zoning at her will so don't cry when it your turn

I hope my property value goes up, too, uncle226.

I expect that anything done to make Sosua more family-friendly will benefit property owners. The great majority of people who have the resources to buy expensive property don't spend their nights in the local bars and beds of prostitutes.

Just on this message board I know of a couple of people who are seriously considering buying property in Sosua but are waiting to see whether things improve.
 

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A very reliable source has just informed me everyone's favorite colmadon, El Flow has been renamed to Cerrado!
 
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