Pregnant Girlfriend? Scan or Scam

[greydread]

Life is not a game and people aren't toys...

If she has a papichulo he aint getting much because she doesnt let me out of her sight. She is paranoid about other dominicanas and I am no better than I should be.

I know I am leaving myself open but the downside is not that big. I live well here but have nothing I cant walk away from and replace in a week. Largely by accident of birth I am comfortably off and make a pretty decent living. I can afford to lose this bet

This is funny but potentially sad.

You never leave her sight but Papichulo never leaves her heart and mind. He's not going anywhere until she hauls in a whale (you). Don't worry about him getting his. He's banging away at her younger Primas right this minute.

Understand that these people see the whole "nothing I can't afford to lose" attitude as a justification to squeeze you for everything they can get from you. Your "Tourist Visa" status leaves you in the most vulnerable possible position as you will be officially judged "guilty until proven innocent" in any dispute and this "nothing I can't afford to lose" may just include your life. This is what happens when you mix it up with desperate people and there is only you to blame.

You represent the big "Gringo Lotto" ticket and she and her chulo and their families have big plans to cash that ticket in.

Make up with her. Move her back in and pay your lease through the end of term. The next time you cycle back home find another Country (I hear Colombia's nice this time of year) to visit and try not to repeat your Dominican mistakes. Don't date, let alone "shack up" with anyone who can't afford to furnish your place and who doesn't get up and go to work somewhere every day. The only way to know a Woman is not with you for your money is to ascertain that she has her own money and doesn't need yours.

"Slumming" can get you kilt! Put yourself in her shoes. Get naked and stand in front of a full length mirror and make a list of reasons why she's so crazy about you and why she "won't let you out of her sight". Could it be that you're so beautiful that she can't turn away?

 

[GEF girl]

True love between an older man and a younger woman does exist, but the difference in age should not be bigger than her own age.

Greydread if OP decides to come to Colombia he will be played big time women tend to be smarter in the game than in the DR.. trust me I live there and see it very often especially in this time of year (Tis the season!):bunny:

 

[greydread]

True love between an older man and a younger woman does exist, but the difference in age should not be bigger than her own age.

Greydread if OP decides to come to Colombia he will be played big time women tend to be smarter in the game than in the DR.. trust me I live there and see it very often especially in this time of year (Tis the season!):bunny:

If he repeats his mistakes he will be "played" anywhere in Latin America or the rest of the World for that matter. He really doesn't have to leave home for that. That was my point.

If one insists upon walking through the lion's den wearing a pork chop necklace, one should prepare to be bitten.

 

[Berzin]

Put yourself in her shoes. Get naked and stand in front of a full length mirror and make a list of reasons why she's so crazy about you and why she "won't let you out of her sight". Could it be that you're so beautiful that she can't turn away?

I'm not sure this analogy is correct, especially for the Dominican women I've seen and known. The guys they like the most tend to be unattractive for the most part. To me these women seem attracted to the stereotypical arrogant blowhard with the biggest mouth and ego.

I know plenty of pot-bellied, unattractive Dominican men who walk around the island with their tight Izod Lacoste polo shirts thinking they're the shizznit. They always seem to have chicas swarming all over them.

I'm not saying you're wrong, Greydread-it's just that my take on it is different.

Regardless, love for Dominican women of a lower socio-economic scale doesn't mean the same thing for Westerners. Maybe they are the ones who have it right, I don't know.

All I know is, in the instance that a foreigner is within their grasp, many will not be content with what the foreigner is willing to share with them. Their plan is always to take everything the guy has "y dejarlo pelao".

Our friend here seems to think this is some kind of game. "Sigue jodiendo, hermano y te van a comer el culo".

 

[Nic43]

This is funny but potentially sad.

You never leave her sight but Papichulo never leaves her heart and mind. He's not going anywhere until she hauls in a whale (you). Don't worry about him getting his. He's banging away at her younger Primas right this minute.

Understand that these people see the whole "nothing I can't afford to lose" attitude as a justification to squeeze you for everything they can get from you. Your "Tourist Visa" status leaves you in the most vulnerable possible position as you will be officially judged "guilty until proven innocent" in any dispute and this "nothing I can't afford to lose" may just include your life. This is what happens when you mix it up with desperate people and there is only you to blame.

You represent the big "Gringo Lotto" ticket and she and her chulo and their families have big plans to cash that ticket in.

Make up with her. Move her back in and pay your lease through the end of term. The next time you cycle back home find another Country (I hear Colombia's nice this time of year) to visit and try not to repeat your Dominican mistakes. Don't date, let alone "shack up" with anyone who can't afford to furnish your place and who doesn't get up and go to work somewhere every day. The only way to know a Woman is not with you for your money is to ascertain that she has her own money and doesn't need yours.

"Slumming" can get you kilt! Put yourself in her shoes. Get naked and stand in front of a full length mirror and make a list of reasons why she's so crazy about you and why she "won't let you out of her sight". Could it be that you're so beautiful that she can't turn away?

Thanks greydread. The mirror test didn?t go too badly but I do get your point. You got me on my guard. Cant see any immediate danger from the relatives. A bunch of freeloading bums for sure but rank amateurs compared to my folks

Never met a woman who wasn?t interested in wealth; assumed it was in their nature. I dated some fairly decent women back home. I tell myself it was down to looks and charm but I think the Porsche helped. This one seems less impressed by money than most. I know that may be a bad sign and I really am on my guard now. Yes she probably does want to land a guy with some money rather than a clown on a moto but don?t they all?

Actually trying to make a life here and I cant do that if I am paranoid about everything and everybody. I am acutely aware that those with more experience of the place tend to be that way and this business has me worried that they may well be right. I cant live like that so how this pans out will determine if I have a future here or not

 

[Alyonka]

Well, some foreign girls that took my classes (including girls from my country actually ) were telling me - why are you working? Why don't you get yourself a husband? What men are for???? Maybe it actually makes sense? Why am I spending all this energy at work while some other women can afford to sleep all day? Men are made to make our life easier!

 

[papi201]

listen, maybe the gringo's arnt always the most beautiful ones, but if you take your girl to a nice classy restaurant,- you pay of course- and you are friendly and you treat her with a lot of love and respect, don't you think that they fall in love, no matter the age? I believe so, ....

 

[Nic43]

Well, some foreign girls that took my classes (including girls from my country actually ) were telling me - why are you working? Why don't you get yourself a husband? What men are for???? Maybe it actually makes sense? Why am I spending all this energy at work while some other women can afford to sleep all day? Men are made to make our life easier!

I think it would be very naive to believe otherwise. Men spend much of their lives like flies crawling around looking for that one special spider that will treat them differently to all the others. All women exploit men, it is their nature and the degree of their exploitation varies acording to need mood and inclination. Nothing wrong with that. My only issue is one of consent, whether the man retains the option to effectively say no.

 

[Alyonka]

My only issue is one of consent, whether the man retains the option to effectively say no.

I guess, there is always a way out. You are not in the US where you can get sued. You can just leave the DR and never come back. Good luck!

 

[las2137]

My dominican girlfriend told me her girlfriend got pregnant by having sex with her gringo - with condom - , she took the used condom to the bathroom - "she would throw it away", opened the condom and used the 'content' to get pregnant, i don't know if it's possible, but that's what she told me. She told me, if you do that within 15 minutes after having sex, ... surprise.... Since then, i was being very careful....

The chances of becoming pregnant from a situation like this are slim to none.

 

[Alyonka]

And it all has nothing to do with how old you are or what you look like. It all has to do with how good of a lifestyle you can provide, not much else.

 

[MerengueDutchie]

The chances of becoming pregnant from a situation like this are slim to none.

Tell that to Boris Becker

Health: Could Boris Becker have a love child? | Life and style | The Guardian

 

[Eddy]

After reading all the posts in this thread, I'm worried about you having thoughts of suicide. Don't do it, be strong. Things will work out.

 

[papi201]

Tell that to Boris Becker

Health: Could Boris Becker have a love child? | Life and style | The Guardian

indeed, Dutchie, read this, las2137 :

In fact, sperm can be inseminated (using fingers or more sophisticated syringes) from anywhere they've been deposited outside the vagina. "Its possible for a woman to become pregnant with sperm inseminated into the vagina that's been ejaculated outside," says Dr Steve Brody, of the Advanced Fertility Institute of San Diego. "When sperm is ejaculated it's a gel-like, viscous substance. Within five to 15 minutes it liquifies. This gel phase is probably a mechanism to protect the sperm cells in the initial phase of ejaculation. No one knows for sure why it comes out like this. It's only after it liquifies that it really becomes mobile:bandit:

i never read this before, but it says the same as my girlfriend ....

 

[las2137]

Tell that to Boris Becker

Health: Could Boris Becker have a love child? | Life and style | The Guardian

Oh, right. It's much more likely that the universe and stars magically aligned and allowed for the extremely unique biological conditions that made her pregnant with sperm outside the body, than the possibility the guy was less than honest about his encounter with this woman in order to avoid paternity. My bad!

It's not impossible. But it is extremely unlikely. You're both focusing on the sperm, which is only one part of the equation.

Amazing how people can read the same thing and come to completely different conclusions. Read what else the doc you quoted said:

In fact if, as Becker claims, Angela planned to get pregnant, she was incredibly lucky to do so from one lot of sperm. Even a healthy 18-year-old couple, says Dr Brody, only have a 24% chance of getting pregnant from having sex once.

A woman only releases one egg per cycle, and it only lives for about a day. The woman in question would have to be tracking her cycle and know exactly when she would be ovulating and have a good warm vessel in order to impregnate herself in this way.

 

[greydread]

I'd buy the book

Sometimes we get to learn from the experiences of others. Love triangles often have unforseen consequences, especially in poor Latin American and Caribbean places where Gringos and chulos are involved.

Amazon.com: Gringo Nightmare: A Young American Framed for Murder in Nicaragua (9780312557270): Eric Volz: Books

The author seems a nice enough guy and intelligent enough not to get caught up in something like this. His travels to the D.R. and Mexico indicate that he was not new to the culture. I'll bet that his troubles also started out with a seemingly benign domestic difficulty.

ERIC VOLZ is a native of Northern California. He holds a degree in Latin American Studies from the University of California, San Diego. Other university level studies include coursework at the Universidad Autonoma de Guadalajara, Mexico, and upper division coursework at Ponifica Universidad Catolica Madre y Maestra, Dominican Republic.

In 2004, Eric moved to Nicaragua and launched EP Magazine, a successful, full-color, bi-lingual publication focusing on conscious living, cross-cultural understanding and sustainable development. His work with this project continued until November 2006 when he was falsely accused and wrongfully convicted for the rape and murder of his ex-girlfriend Doris Jim?nez, and consequently sentenced to a 30-year prison term.

After spending over a year in the Nicaraguan Prison system, an appeals court overturned the conviction and Volz was released in December of 2007.

Since his release, Volz filed a petition in the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights of the Organization of American States, seeking a declaration of his innocence and protection under the American Convention on Human Rights from further persecution by the Government of Nicaragua. Although he is no longer behind bars, his case continues to test the role and authority of a supra-national tribunal with major potential to engage international policy discussions and subsequent reform.

He has been a guest on and featured in The Today Show, CNN, NBC News, PBS, Telemundo and Univision, New York Times, Washington Post, WSJ, People and NPR.

As a dedicated journalist, Eric acknowledges a responsibility to utilize the lessons carried by his experience to generate education and potential reform.

 

[greydread]

I think it would be very naive to believe otherwise. Men spend much of their lives like flies crawling around looking for that one special spider that will treat them differently to all the others. All women exploit men, it is their nature and the degree of their exploitation varies acording to need mood and inclination. Nothing wrong with that. My only issue is one of consent, whether the man retains the option to effectively say no.

Ouch.

How's about we as Humans all have a tendency to become exploitive if left unchecked (ie "power corrupts"). That's why it's essential to do that daily self check (some call it prayer, some call it meditation) to get right within ourselves before even trying to interact with others. Seek understanding rather than seeking control. If her stated feelings are insincere you will know soon enough so just roll with the punches in this battle between the sexes and try not to see yourself as prey, but as a willing participant with the relationship's outcome as much dependent upon your actions/ reactions as hers.

This Chica has apparently gotten deep under your skin to the point where you don't trust yourself to make the correct decision concerning her role in your life, otherwise why would you ever post something like this in a public forum?

Fine. You don't have to decide at all. Let it ride, the truth will tell itself given time and you'll be the wiser for it. Just watch your back for now.

 

[papi201]

Oh, right. It's much more likely that the universe and stars magically aligned and allowed for the extremely unique biological conditions that made her pregnant with sperm outside the body, than the possibility the guy was less than honest about his encounter with this woman in order to avoid paternity. My bad!

It's not impossible. But it is extremely unlikely. You're both focusing on the sperm, which is only one part of the equation.

Amazing how people can read the same thing and come to completely different conclusions. Read what else the doc you quoted said:


A woman only releases one egg per cycle, and it only lives for about a day. The woman in question would have to be tracking her cycle and know exactly when she would be ovulating and have a good warm vessel in order to impregnate herself in this way.

Ok, so you don't believe this story. To be honest, i know the chances are slim, but they exist, just like having sex with a condom does not exclude 100 pct pregnancy, just read the leaflet.... How do you explain that the girlfriend of my chica was pregnant of her gringo boyfriend by having sex with condoms? And it turned out to be his kid....

 

[Hernandez]

If somebody's chica says that she's pregnant after having sex with a condom, that means that that dumb animal just forgot that she f***ed with somebody else without a condom. How can I explain that? How can you explain the extreme level of stupidity in this country? Maybe some magnetic anomaly or something like that.

 

[web]

Ouch.

How's about we as Humans all have a tendency to become exploitive if left unchecked (ie "power corrupts"). That's why it's essential to do that daily self check (some call it prayer, some call it meditation) to get right within ourselves before even trying to interact with others. Seek understanding rather than seeking control. If her stated feelings are insincere you will know soon enough so just roll with the punches in this battle between the sexes and try not to see yourself as prey, but as a willing participant with the relationship's outcome as much dependent upon your actions/ reactions as hers.

This Chica has apparently gotten deep under your skin to the point where you don't trust yourself to make the correct decision concerning her role in your life, otherwise why would you ever post something like this in a public forum?

Fine. You don't have to decide at all. Let it ride, the truth will tell itself given time and you'll be the wiser for it. Just watch your back for now.

Very well said...prayer, meditation, karma, intuition, the golden rule. Try to chill out and relax even work on the relationship if you want. 9 months is not that long of a time to find out the truth. You said you don't give her that much money and she has moved out. Now that she is gone you are good to go.