Ramfis Domínguez Trujillo: Next President of Dominican Republic?

[Russell]

I solicited the opinion of an in-law member who was born in 1915 (yup 103) and he still has it altogether.
He lives in North Shore el campo, out of choice, and by himself.

When Trujillo became President / General jefe ... all he wanted was running water and electricity from the new administration.
He lives on the main road to Villa Isabella in plain sight of the road.
This is 2018 and there is still no running water ... so we pay to bring it to him.
Last week some thieves robbed him of his only source of electricity , a copper wire.
If we were to use this individual as the norm for the century.... all the rest is ''smoke and mirrors''.
SO who cares who is in power .... except those who hope to benefit from change.
Tell me when the ''Grandfathers'' get respect, dignity, and basic services in this country and I shall state 'Bravo'... until then Caca Toro !
Just my opinion though... probably missed the political points.
Then again what do such people matter anyway.

Russell

 

[bachata]

Who ever candidate or political party is not relevant right now, Dominicans need to vote against PLD in order to get them out of the government...
Corruption in the Dominican Republic has reach the top in all different areas... economic, social, political, human, etc...

Hay que sacar a estos corructos que ahora quieren vender el pais entero.

JJ

 

[Caonabo]

And no corruption exists within the PRD, PRSC, or PRM?

 

[NALs]

And no corruption exists within the PRD, PRSC, or PRM?

Corruption will never disappear because its part of our national values. The vast majority of Dominicans are corrupt at some level, but most don't like to be told that they are.

Reminds me of this show in Spain where the journalist went to the streets of Madrid to ask some random people if they see themselves as corrupt. I liked the best the 180 degrees that the blonde Spanish woman made after she was asked if she's corrupt and she said she doesn't think she has ever committed any acts of corruption. After the journalist asked her if she committed several individual acts of corruption, she replies yes to all of them, and then, in the end, she replies 'soy una corrupta de m*erda en realidad' (I noticed that I'm actually horribly corrupt).

That final answer should be the response of most Dominicans, but that's not going to happen anytime soon.

[video=youtube;m6MBsP6piXM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6MBsP6piXM[/video]

It's true that some governments are better or worse with corruption, but this will always exist wherever there are Dominicans. From what I'm seeing of Ramfis Domínguez Trujillo, it appears he will try to put in place a government with less corruption than is typical. Only time will tell.

By the way, the exaggerated corruption levels that exist in Dominican society probably was inherited from the Spaniards. In the very video the journalist says that several municipalities in the southern part of the Madrid Metropolitan Area were left without mayors due to the multiple corruption scandals. In all of Western Europe, I think only Italy has it worse when it comes to corruption. lol And these are rich and developed countries! If the DR ever reaches the developed stage, look no further than Spain as an example of what it will be like as far as corruption is concerned.

 

[bachata]

And no corruption exists within the PRD, PRSC, or PRM?

No at this level.

Never!

JJ

 

[bachata]

I don't live in DR but I am in touch with people who lives over there, I fallow up on the media and for I can conclude people is desperate. We need a coalition from all different political parties maybe OLD got too much power.

JJ

 

[Russell]

''He who lives in a glass house, should never throw stones'' (some body).
All countries have corruption in Government... some just hide it more than others.
''The Country without corruption, may cast the first stone''

 

[Aguaita29]

I'm not sure, but doesn't Leonel have dual citizenship?

So, I heard he has addressed this "impediment", and he allegedly has a fixed address in the DR.

 

[Peterj]

In the last few days there has been a new commotion within the Dominican political spheres and in the media. The fault lies on Ramfis Domínguez Trujillo (Rafael Leónidas Trujillo grandson) making public his intention to run for the Presidency of the Dominican Republic in 2020. Not only does he wants to become president, but he also created his own political party because he wants to bring something 'new' to Dominican politics and to the DR in general.

Many anti-Trujillistas are practically up in arms due to this. While Ramfis Domínguez Trujillo says it again and again that he was born and raised in the USA, that all that he knows is how democracy works from the best democracy in the world (his words), that he knows what a well functioning society is like and wants to replicate that in the DR; many people in the media continue to throw at him what his grandfather did.

This insistance on bestowing upon the descendant of dictator Rafael Leónidas Trujillo the sins of his grandfather is clearly evident in this latest interview (he has been interviewed a lot in recent days.)

[video=youtube;qmDS3CCUw-4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmDS3CCUw-4[/video]


Chances are very high that if Ramfis Domínguez Trujillo was to run for the presidency he would win, just on the basis of his last name. Everyone knows that and that's part of the reason why the political establishment is now shaking at the thought of such a thing.

In my opinion: yes, let him run...anything better than Hipolito

 

[NALs]

In my opinion: yes, let him run...anything better than Hipolito

Ramfis Domínguez Trujillo and Hipólito are actually distant family. Ramfis father is a cousin of Hipólito's mother, if I remember correctly.

 

[ChrisNYC]

Just finished reading Feast of The Goat a few weeks ago. 

 While his father was ambitious and did create a functional economy the sons were both being playboys in Europe. That lifestyle costs a lot of money. No time for caring about people when you have fine women to chase and expensive places to dine.

 I say NO. Give it to a blue collar guy.

 

[NALs]

Just finished reading Feast of The Goat a few weeks ago.

I hope you are not using that fictional novel as a legitimate source of factual information. The author himself, Mario Vargas Llosa (Peruvian), has said that his novel is fiction and that he took plenty of liberties when he wrote it, in effect creating more fiction than fact. He himself says that his novel shouldn't be taken as a legitimate historical portrait of Trujillo or his regime; and that's one testament from the author that has fallen on deaf ears because many people use his novel as a source of 'factual information' about the regime. The novel has been so popular that it has also blurred what is truth and what is fiction about the dictatorship, to the point that even in historical books on the era his novel is often cited for events or aspects that are in fact false, but in those historical books are presented as real historical events or aspects.

He makes it very clear after about 1:00. Between 2:13 and 2:25 also clearly says that Fiesta del Chivo 'is a novel, an invented story, that it's not a historical book or disguised as a factual historical book, that its a novel where there is more fiction than reality.' As such, it shouldn't be used as a source of factual information on the time or on Trujillo.

[video=youtube;0Cqh09iY_xI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cqh09iY_xI[/video]

 

[El Mayimbe]

You have to have been born in DR in order to be president.

 

[Dolores1]

Ramfis Dominguez Trujillo would be Dominican by origin (his parents). He was born in New York to two Dominicans. The constitution has since 1966 established that Dominicans by birth or origin can run for President.

As of the 2010 Constitution in the Dual Nationals section, it is established that "Dominicans who adopt another nationality, voluntarily or by place of birth, can run for President provided that they relinquish their foreign nationality ten years before the election and reside in the country for ten consecutive years before taking office."

A legal consultation would be needed to determine if he complies with the constitutional conditions to be accepted as a candidate to the Presidency.

In his case, he is an American who it is assumed later became a dual national, taking on the nationality of his parents. So technically, he did not "adopt another nationality." He already had the nationality by origin. This may be a loophole to allow him to run for President.

 

[Gabriela]

I hope you are not using that fictional novel as a legitimate source of factual information. The author himself, Mario Vargas Llosa (Peruvian), has said that his novel is fiction and that he took plenty of liberties when he wrote it, in effect creating more fiction than fact. He himself says that his novel shouldn't be taken as a legitimate historical portrait of Trujillo or his regime; and that's one testament from the author that has fallen on deaf ears because many people use his novel as a source of 'factual information' about the regime. The novel has been so popular that it has also blurred what is truth and what is fiction about the dictatorship, to the point that even in historical books on the era his novel is often cited for events or aspects that are in fact false, but in those historical books are presented as real historical events or aspects.

He makes it very clear after about 1:00. Between 2:13 and 2:25 also clearly says that Fiesta del Chivo 'is a novel, an invented story, that it's not a historical book or disguised as a factual historical book, that its a novel where there is more fiction than reality.' As such, it shouldn't be used as a source of factual information on the time or on Trujillo.

[video=youtube;0Cqh09iY_xI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cqh09iY_xI[/video]

For sure, Trujillo was far worse than the book could ever describe.

 

[ofthecross]

i just went to a fundraiser for him on sunday that was very intriguing. I surely hope that he can run

 

[mekkizm]

He wont be able to run and he knows it...

It's stated in the Dominican constitution, its actually law in most nations that offer duel citizenship...
He had to denounce his American citizenship I believe 8-10 years PRIOR to the election for Presidency of the Dominican Republic.

You can not be a legal citizen of one country while being a so called President of another, its the very basis of conflict of interest.... He knows this and perhaps his "party" does to.

Looks like he's gathering votes to then negotiate them with another candidate,, I will bet on it!

Watch him in the next coming months, he will "unite" with another candidate for the "good"of the country.

This is textbook........

 

[NALs]

The most recent Gallup poll results were made public this week and states that Ramfis Domínguez Trujillo's popularity has reached 42.2%.

Also from Gallup, over 66% of Dominicans reject anothr re-election of Danilo Medina.

https://www.elnuevodia.com/noticias...echazaunanuevareeleccionpresidencial-2408047/

 

[jenmar237]

He wont be able to run and he knows it...

It's stated in the Dominican constitution, its actually law in most nations that offer duel citizenship...
He had to denounce his American citizenship I believe 8-10 years PRIOR to the election for Presidency of the Dominican Republic.

You can not be a legal citizen of one country while being a so called President of another, its the very basis of conflict of interest.... He knows this and perhaps his "party" does to.

Looks like he's gathering votes to then negotiate them with another candidate,, I will bet on it!

Watch him in the next coming months, he will "unite" with another candidate for the "good"of the country.

This is textbook........

He can run;

He's been a Dominican citizen since he was a small child and has been registered as a DR resident for over 10 years.

Leonel and Hipolito both have U.S. citizenship in addition to their Dominican one and were both presidents of the DR; Leonel we know was president twice.

He has already made a political alliance so that he can run under the PDI since he isn't allowed to run under his won party; I agree that there will be more than likely be more alliances to come but not where he would take the 'back seat'.

Perhaps this is 'textbook' for some things but certainly there are things at odds right now that haven't in past elections, at the very least not the extent that they are now, specifically Dominican sovereignty and the 'haitianzination' of the country.

 

[DR_DEFENDER]

He wont be able to run and he knows it...

It's stated in the Dominican constitution, its actually law in most nations that offer duel citizenship...
He had to denounce his American citizenship I believe 8-10 years PRIOR to the election for Presidency of the Dominican Republic.

You can not be a legal citizen of one country while being a so called President of another, its the very basis of conflict of interest.... He knows this and perhaps his "party" does to.

Looks like he's gathering votes to then negotiate them with another candidate,, I will bet on it!

Watch him in the next coming months, he will "unite" with another candidate for the "good"of the country.

This is textbook........

Well, I also read that the outcast of the trujillo family was unconstitutional therefore it voids that argument since the family leaving the country was not by choice. So, I guess we shall see what happens soon enough.