Scams using burundanga, scopolamine

SKY

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Esteemed Cavok: with all due respect sir, based on your posts, it would appear that there are members of this community who, along with you, have come out in agreement this past year, that this compound can be concentrated into a magical dust phase and blown into the faces of only Latinas at ATMs in order to subdue them and get them to hand over the contents of their bank accounts. In my professional and personal opinion, I strongly disagree. But I still think you're a swell guy.

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So you finally admit that this is happening all over the World. Just not by dust. In food or drink you are conceding...................Because obviously all of these reports cannot be wrong.........
 

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Esteemed Cavok: with all due respect sir, based on your posts, it would appear that there are members of this community who, along with you, have come out in agreement this past year, that this compound can be concentrated into a magical dust phase and blown into the faces of only Latinas at ATMs in order to subdue them and get them to hand over the contents of their bank accounts. In my professional and personal opinion, I strongly disagree. But I still think you're a swell guy.

How'd I do here @keepcoming?
Read post #55 again and again until it finally sinks in what I said. I have never believed in the dust theory.
 

El Hijo de Manolo

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So you finally admit that this is happening all over the World. Just not by dust. In food or drink you are conceding...................Because obviously all of these reports cannot be wrong.........
No, and again, with all due respect sir, your posts this past year tend to indicate you are in agreement with a super concentrated magical dust phase of this drug that seems to only affect Latinas at ATMs. I concede nothing, but I do appreciate your diligence and persistence.
 

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So you finally admit that this is happening all over the World. Just not by dust. In food or drink you are conceding...................Because obviously all of these reports cannot be wrong.........
There is not one single solitary verified incident of this happening here at any time. If some chica clipped my rolex at a bar/hotel/mall/ cabanas I might even be tempted to blame it on the fictional fairy dust. Maybe at least I could get a free beer and a free order of cheese fries.
 

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There is not one single solitary verified incident of this happening here at any time. If some chica clipped my rolex at a bar/hotel/mall/ cabanas I might even be tempted to blame it on the fictional fairy dust. Maybe at least I could get a free beer and a free order of cheese fries.
Tell that to the Three Major Newspapers in the DR compared to your nonentity juvenile posts on the topic.......................
 
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El Hijo de Manolo

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Tell that to the Three Major Newspapers in the DR compared to your nonentity juvenile posts on the topic.......................
Esteemed SKY, Why would you take it personally that some banana republic news publications really have no function other than acting as mouthpieces for the current political party and certainly have no credibility outside of their own geography? You were also asked kindly to leave behind the personal attacks. Are you on the needs extra care end of the spectrum?
 

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Esteemed SKY, Why would you take it personally that some banana republic news publications really have no function other than acting as mouthpieces for the current political party and certainly have no credibility outside of their own geography? You were also asked kindly to leave behind the personal attacks. Are you on the needs extra care end of the spectrum?
We can end this whole discussion with one simple question. With literally countless reports on this from all over Latin America, the question is YES or NO. Yes you believe that this drug exists and is administered in ANY way on people to steal their money. Or NO, All the tons of reports are ALL false, there is no such drug…..Go ahead……

Only expecting more rubbish without an answer…………….
 

El Hijo de Manolo

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We can end this whole discussion with one simple question. With literally countless reports on this from all over Latin America, the question is YES or NO. Yes you believe that this drug exists and is administered in ANY way on people to steal their money. Or NO, All the tons of reports are ALL false, there is no such drug…..Go ahead……

Only expecting more rubbish without an answer…………….
What "countless" reports? are you referring to third world rags in Colombia and DR? I haven't see a report out of your account beside these articles which carry zero global gravitas. You've simply been pushing this nonsense for over a year and it now looks very sus.
 
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cavok

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The CIA did experiments in the 1950's on the possibility of the use of scopolamine as a truth serum. It was called MKUltra. I thought everybody had heard of this by now. It didn't work reliably enough to be a truth serum. Subject were reported to be drowsy, incoherent, delirious, and hallucinating. Amnesia was also a common side effect. There's zero doubt about the effects are.
 
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El Hijo de Manolo

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The CIA did experiments in the 1950's on the possibility of the use of scopolamine as a truth serum. It was called MKUltra. I thought everybody had heard of this by now. It didn't work reliably enough to be a truth serum. Subject were reported to be drowsy, incoherent, delirious, and hallucinating. Amnesia was also a common side effect. There's zero doubt about the effects are.
You are correct it involved numerous drugs and drug classes and you are also correct that scopolamine was included. The issue here is that we have a select few who will have you believe that you can create a phase change on it to a dust or powder at the same time being able concentrate it so much that the dust would have the same effect and concentration as a liquid injectable. This is a fairy tale.
 

CristoRey

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My only question is, if it so effective in rendering someone "mindless" why haven't there been more stories about it? I am not saying it is true or false, but you would think that it would be used much more if it did do what some claim it does. Maybe it is hard to obtain?
Or maybe mind tricks?

 
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SKY

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What "countless" reports? are you referring to third world rags in Colombia and DR? I haven't see a report out of your account beside these articles which carry zero global gravitas. You've simply been pushing this nonsense for over a year and it now looks very sus.
Now I get it all the reports are false. People just met total strangers and liked them enough to give the their life savings. And you and your partner are more credible than 3 newspapers that employ reporters to check facts. How many people involved in these articles have you interviewed?.....
 

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You are correct it involved numerous drugs and drug classes and you are also correct that scopolamine was included. The issue here is that we have a select few who will have you believe that you can create a phase change on it to a dust or powder at the same time being able concentrate it so much that the dust would have the same effect and concentration as a liquid injectable. This is a fairy tale.
No need for a phase change. From what I've heard, it is a powder but it's hard to believe you could inhale enough of it unless you took some deep breaths It could easily be made into a liquid, also.
 

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What "countless" reports? are you referring to third world rags in Colombia and DR? I haven't see a report out of your account beside these articles which carry zero global gravitas. You've simply been pushing this nonsense for over a year and it now looks very sus.
Most cases are naturally out of Colombia
Bloomberg https://www.bloomberg.com/news/news...g-and-robbery-raises-tinder-fears-in-colombia

Academic Research: https://www.upv.es/noticias-upv/noticia-13880-test-anti-drog-en.html

Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...irish-dancer-adrian-murphy-devils-breath-drug https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...olombia-foreigner-death-dating-apps-embassies

US Government: Also known as Burundanga in Colombia, it is an odorless, tasteless, memory blocking substance used to incapacitate and rob unwary victims. If ingested or exposed, scopolamine can render a victim unconscious up to 24 hours or more. In large doses, it can cause respiratory failure and death. It is most often administered in liquid, spray, or powder form in foods and beverages. https://co.usembassy.gov/security-a...ncrease-in-crimes-involving-use-of-sedatives/ https://co.usembassy.gov/security-a...artagena-independence-day-november-7-10-2024/

Numerous confirmed victims - some dead, first hand accounts, arrests etc
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/23/world/americas/colombia-dating-apps-sedatives-deaths.html
https://methodmedellin.com/not-so-fast-they-caught-paul-nguyens-murderers/
(arrests this week)
 

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Now I get it all the reports are false. People just met total strangers and liked them enough to give the their life savings. And you and your partner are more credible than 3 newspapers that employ reporters to check facts. How many people involved in these articles have you interviewed?.....
false!! Everyone loves a good "big-foot" or "loch ness monster" story. Thanks.
 

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Most cases are naturally out of Colombia
Bloomberg https://www.bloomberg.com/news/news...g-and-robbery-raises-tinder-fears-in-colombia

Academic Research: https://www.upv.es/noticias-upv/noticia-13880-test-anti-drog-en.html

Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...irish-dancer-adrian-murphy-devils-breath-drug https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...olombia-foreigner-death-dating-apps-embassies

US Government: Also known as Burundanga in Colombia, it is an odorless, tasteless, memory blocking substance used to incapacitate and rob unwary victims. If ingested or exposed, scopolamine can render a victim unconscious up to 24 hours or more. In large doses, it can cause respiratory failure and death. It is most often administered in liquid, spray, or powder form in foods and beverages. https://co.usembassy.gov/security-a...ncrease-in-crimes-involving-use-of-sedatives/ https://co.usembassy.gov/security-a...artagena-independence-day-november-7-10-2024/

Numerous confirmed victims - some dead, first hand accounts, arrests etc
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/23/world/americas/colombia-dating-apps-sedatives-deaths.html
https://methodmedellin.com/not-so-fast-they-caught-paul-nguyens-murderers/
(arrests this week)
I saw a UFO on the Malecon, it told me to buy a L Ron Hubbard book.
 
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There is not one single solitary verified incident of this happening here at any time. If some chica clipped my rolex at a bar/hotel/mall/ cabanas I might even be tempted to blame it on the fictional fairy dust. Maybe at least I could get a free beer and a free order of cheese fries.
Go for the trifecta...ask for a free pair of Crocs too! :) Then we'll know for sure you're under the influence of some evil substance