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Sosua Bars Must Close Fronts
I am not here to build anyone up, or break anyone down. So I like to keep it as simple as I can. If it is done in his business, and it is his plan, I'll call that his business plan. Haha
I hope it does work. I would hate to see another business close. I hope I can watch American football there in 2 weeks. No sure if the old coaches corner will be showing the games.
actually, it is a business plan, and a good one at that. he is probably going to employ this plan B on a temporary basis, until the hullabaloo quiets down. then he will surreptitiously move the chicas in, little by little, hoping nobody in government notices.
Because they think families have money and they think families don't want to see the chicas. Simple, but questionable logic. Some small number of people who have influence on the decision-making process think somebody will make more money if families can't see chicas. There are ways to test this logic, but many, many variables. Too bad, some people want to go to a cleaned up version of reality. Certainly would not want to create an uncomfortable situation for anyone with nice clean dollars in their pocket.
Do you know anything about the history of this country? It's only been going on for a couple hundred years, the European/chica thing.
the problem involved with the cruise ship thing is that cruise passengers spend precious little money, and the spend is controlled by the cruise ship company. the only outfit that i can see cleaning up is Ocean World. it is close, and it is a world class, professionally run operation. Sosua is not going to get squat.
If Sosua was really the destination for these cruise tourists....why did they build it so far away? There is no way on god's green earth people are going to make the trip for a short day at such a beach...no matter how nice it is. There seems to be quite a bit of dreaming and fantasy amongst the power that be in Sosua. It's almost like they have no idea what they are doing....but what are the odds of that?
Who ever said Sosua was going to be saved by Cruise Ship passengers? There may be a bus excursion to Sosua Beach for cruisers, but I doubt anyone thinks it's going to "save the town financially".
With that being said though, the cruise ship port and it's passengers will bring attention to the North Coast. How many thousand blue haired ladies will get off the ship yearly, buy a few trinkets and go home proclaiming to their sons and daughters "The Dominican is a lovely place!" That's advertising you can't buy.
Take Alicia Park and Beach for example. I'm sure nobody thought that little project would help pack the restaurants and hotels. But it's an improvement for the town, every little bit helps.
With that being said though, the cruise ship port and it's passengers will bring attention to the North Coast. How many thousand blue haired ladies will get off the ship yearly, buy a few trinkets and go home proclaiming to their sons and daughters "The Dominican is a lovely place!" That's advertising you can't buy.
Take Alicia Park and Beach for example. I'm sure nobody thought that little project would help pack the restaurants and hotels. But it's an improvement for the town, every little bit helps.
I am all for improvements but I wish they would start tackling the main reasons that are holding the little town of Sosua back. Things like the water, electricity, police, motoconchos, crime, parking, dirt on the streets, the flooding....to name a few. I think that making some of these things marginally better would go a long way towards improving the situation the "good" tourists?
there is no literature which establishes that cruise tourism is advantageous to land based tourism. as a matter of fact, it is detrimental to land based tourism, for many reasons.
Please share the reasons why cruise ships are bad for land based tourism. I am not asking to be challenging.
I have not seen those. Were they based on locations that had an existing tourism base? In the case of the North Coast, they are trying to increase name recognition. I would think any good press would be advantageous for them right now.
fifty years ago, cruise ships were transportation. they wre like airplanes that traveled on water. they got you from point A to point B.
today, cruise ships are the destination. the stopovers in the caribbean antilles, for example, are a sideshow. the real show is on the ship, which has attractions that the destinations can never match. so, when a guy is accustomed to impeccable service, exquisite food, and wonderful entertainment on a cruise ship, he measures the day-stop destinations by those standards. cruise ship passengers are their own demographic. they are not torn between a land based vacation and a cruise. most have been on more than one cruise, and statistics show that a large percentage book their next cruise years in advance. the kind of guy who cruises the caribbean with a group of friends is not the same demographic that will go to a $599.00 one week jaunt in Playa Dorada to get bombed on rotgut vodka, and puke rubber chicken. as a matter of fact, because of the high expectations of cruise passengers, based on standards on the ship, they are easily turned off any ideas of a land based visit if they get the slightest hint that things on shore are dodgy.
A cruise ship is going to lead their passengers around by the nose to shops and day tours that give kickbacks to the cruise company or are company owned. You see the same thing with the AIs who make the day tour companies charge less per person and then the AI charges a HUGE mark-up for arranging the booking. The tour company makes less and the tourists pay more.
I agree that all of this should be worked on in conjunction with improving the overall all image of Sosua. With an island full of beautiful women, the issues you listed seem more important than the fixation with supporting the network that facilitates the monetization of sexual relationships with the locals.I am all for improvements but I wish they would start tackling the main reasons that are holding the little town of Sosua back. Things like the water, electricity, police, motoconchos, crime, parking, dirt on the streets, the flooding....to name a few. I think that making some of these things marginally better would go a long way towards improving the situation the "good" tourists?
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absolutely correct. these poor suckers who believe that the cruise visitors are going to get off the ship and fortuitously walk into random stores, and spend their money are so misguided. the cruise ship is a center of containment, whose only purpose is revenue capture. whatever money is in the pockets of the traveler, the cruise ship wants it. it is a floating all inclusive. bear in mind that over 50% of all shore activities, such as tours, are sold aboard the ship. the operators kick back to the cruise companies, who sell their product. the cruise ship company also strong-arms the traveler to shop in certain stores, take certain tours, and eat in certain restaurants. when Maimon opens up, do not get the idea that all those little fish fry places are going to see an embarrassment of riches. they will be lucky to get the odd cruise passenger, because you can bet that Carnival will build a gigantic seafood joint, with state of the art equipment, and prices that D'Joaquin Mariscos simply cannot match.
Getting back to bars I don't know if this was always there and I didn't notice but about a week ago the D'Latin has put this white mesh at the bottom part of their windows (their openings to the street). That now covers anything below the table/counter from views from the outside.
I would have thought covering all the below the table activities and legs from our poor family tourists would be sufficient to protect them from getting upset (or corrupted ! LOL), so may be they can just about cope with all the (ugly) faces and heads. I mean there is not much going on waist up in there, no ... ! or is there !???aranoid:
I would have thought covering all the below the table activities and legs from our poor family tourists would be sufficient to protect them from getting upset (or corrupted ! LOL), so may be they can just about cope with all the (ugly) faces and heads. I mean there is not much going on waist up in there, no ... ! or is there !???
aranoid:I'm still confused about how a few windows and road paint are going to attract cruise passengers in their thousands but I'm not into marketing so perhaps there is more to this than meets the eye. (or obstructs the eye more like.)
This must be a cunning plan by our elected leaders...
I've seen that in other cruise ports that most of the passengers don't stray too far from the boat and Sosua is a considerable distance from Maimon considering the state of roads and traffic infrastructure.
The cruise terminals are usually fully equipped and inviting to the pax plus the fact that they can't miss the boat.
If the ships come and go in the usual period, in morning, out evening, then it is quite difficult to see the benefits passing to the locals, other than a few in transport or Ocean World maybe.
Does anyone have any info about the possible change over of passengers through this port?
The airport is ready it seems.
This would be of definite benefit to the NC if they could mix cruise/beach holidays.
This must be a cunning plan by our elected leaders...
I've seen that in other cruise ports that most of the passengers don't stray too far from the boat and Sosua is a considerable distance from Maimon considering the state of roads and traffic infrastructure.
The cruise terminals are usually fully equipped and inviting to the pax plus the fact that they can't miss the boat.
If the ships come and go in the usual period, in morning, out evening, then it is quite difficult to see the benefits passing to the locals, other than a few in transport or Ocean World maybe.
Does anyone have any info about the possible change over of passengers through this port?
The airport is ready it seems.
This would be of definite benefit to the NC if they could mix cruise/beach holidays.