The future of Sosua

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Cdn_Gringo

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It is the simple things that seem to stymie progress here. By simple I mean common sense not necessarily technically simple. Until power and water delivery are reliable, just about every other "improvement" is a misplaced priority.
 
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ramesses

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It is the simple things that seem to stymie progress here. By simple I mean common sense not necessarily technically simple. Until power and water delivery are reliable, just about every other "improvement" is a misplaced priority.

This post is dead on.
 
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the gorgon

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This post is dead on.

as i say, when Cdn is right, he is right as rain. this is 2019. there is no reason for these repetitive power outages in a place like POP. i can understand a campo where all there is is brush and goats, but POP should have gone past that by now. without decent electricity, why bother to have computers, and internet, etc? i know...inversores, and UPS. well, i did not have those in America 20 years ago, and i never needed them, either.
 
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chico bill

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tell me about the things Dominicans have done to ''push back'' against outsiders. i live in POP, and there is a Chinese operation of sorts everywhere you look. i see no indicators of rebellion..

Are the Chinese assimilating or just running lower end businesses and not socializing or sharing their wealth by philanthropy ?
Having lived in San Francisco - The Chinese (until some recent inter-marrying of women, a trendy thing) completely isolated themselves, except a few politicians. They are very law abiding, but not environmentally abiding, as they dispose of a lot of trash, food and liquids in the street.
Most of their businesses (with exceptions) are selling the same inferior products from China, be it school supplies, electronics, cigarettes, spices & cookware or clothes. they seem to cater to the Chinese buyer or the super budget minded.

There were some Chinese medicine shops you could go to and they were interesting to visit, and I suspect that is also something we will see in DR soon too ?
 
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the gorgon

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Are the Chinese assimilating or just running lower end businesses and not socializing or sharing their wealth by philanthropy ?
Having lived in San Francisco - The Chinese (until some recent inter-marrying of women, a trendy thing) completely isolated themselves, except a few politicians. They are very law abiding, but not environmentally abiding, as they dispose of a lot of trash, food and liquids in the street.
Most of their businesses (with exceptions) are selling the same inferior products from China, be it school supplies, electronics, cigarettes, spices & cookware or clothes. they seem to cater to the Chinese buyer or the super budget minded.

There were some Chinese medicine shops you could go to and they were interesting to visit, and I suspect that is also something we will see in DR soon too ?

i know nothing about their cultural attributes, since i have very little exposure to them on any level. i just happen to know a lady who works in a Chinese store in the Javilla, and she says that she has worked there for almost 3 years, and they have never told her good morning one time, as of yet.
 
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the gorgon

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Are the Chinese assimilating or just running lower end businesses and not socializing or sharing their wealth by philanthropy ?
Having lived in San Francisco - The Chinese (until some recent inter-marrying of women, a trendy thing) completely isolated themselves, except a few politicians. They are very law abiding, but not environmentally abiding, as they dispose of a lot of trash, food and liquids in the street.
Most of their businesses (with exceptions) are selling the same inferior products from China, be it school supplies, electronics, cigarettes, spices & cookware or clothes. they seem to cater to the Chinese buyer or the super budget minded.

There were some Chinese medicine shops you could go to and they were interesting to visit, and I suspect that is also something we will see in DR soon too ?

i was surprised to see that one of the old mainstay bars on Pedro Clisante has been taken over by Chinese, and is now a purveyor of assorted merchandise , from socks to lampshades, it seems.
 
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Ecoman1949

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i was surprised to see that one of the old mainstay bars on Pedro Clisante has been taken over by Chinese, and is now a purveyor of assorted merchandise , from socks to lampshades, it seems.

A Chinese couple opened up a store in the upper level of the Playa Dorada Mall a few years ago. He stocks the usual tourist items, including jade jewelry. They keep very odd hours. Prices are reasonable and I’ve purchased a few gifts from him. I doubt if we will see a major influx of Chinese opening small tourist trap type stores in the DR. That market is already glutted by locals on the Playa Dorada- Sosua-Cabarete strip.
 
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habi

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And it looks like there is not that many clients for the Chinese cheap stuff... The first store they opened in Calle Ayuntamento in Sosua is now closed...:chinese:
 
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Derfish

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And it looks like there is not that many clients for the Chinese cheap stuff... The first store they opened in Calle Ayuntamento in Sosua is now closed...:chinese:

Most Dominicans seem to be more conscious of quality than I ever was.
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chico bill

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i know nothing about their cultural attributes, since i have very little exposure to them on any level. i just happen to know a lady who works in a Chinese store in the Javilla, and she says that she has worked there for almost 3 years, and they have never told her good morning one time, as of yet.

Surprised she wasn't fired before her 3-month period, to avoid separation fees, like many of the Dominican
employees in the Sosua Chinese owned stores.
Maybe 'good morning' is getting too personal for an employee for the Chinese ? I don't know the Chinese cultural well - but what I observe they are very closed and cold.
 
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chico bill

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And it looks like there is not that many clients for the Chinese cheap stuff... The first store they opened in Calle Ayuntamento in Sosua is now closed...:chinese:

Had two female acquaintances from my gym, who bought workout gloves from the Chinese store on PC. They were complaining in the gym and even laughing at how poor the quality was - and one of the Dominican trainers told them "por supesto porque son basura de china".
I think the girls were too embarrassed to use them again.
So yeah they know the quality or lack thereof
 
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drstock

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Infrastructure needs to be improved. A hospital needs to be built. Corruption needs to be brought under control. Public transportation needs an overhaul. These are just a few things that need to be addressed before anything substantial happens. Otherwise, it will fail.

I agree, but to me, more important than all those is that the place needs to be cleaned up, and I'm not talking aout morally. The broken pavements (sidewalks), rubbish all over the place and a generally grimy appearance give a very bad impression for any first-time tourist. It can be done - places like Bayahibe are a great example.
 
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wrecksum

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I agree, but to me, more important than all those is that the place needs to be cleaned up, and I'm not talking aout morally. The broken pavements (sidewalks), rubbish all over the place and a generally grimy appearance give a very bad impression for any first-time tourist. It can be done - places like Bayahibe are a great example.
I was actually thinking it looked quite clean and tidy compared with some years back..Pity about those lovely shade trees they took down though.
 
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wrecksum

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There are carbon copies of these Chinese emporia all around in Cartagena and the experience is equally as lacklustre. This making money is a serious business for these entrepreneurs and God forbid that shopping should be fun and friendly..Am I the only one that can never find stuff in them? Seems to be a scattergun approach to layout,or maybe you need to be Chinese? It's pretty junky for sure.
 
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bxjim

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So Sosua is changing, wow what a concept. Been going for 15 years and YES, it continues to change. And so now the police want to crack down on flagrant folks that they believe may be soliciting or otherwise actively seeking sex. OK, so come on, chicas will just have to learn to better chill; and oth chicas and fellas will have to be more discreet. Hey lets be real - There continues to be big money invested in this beautiful corner of the North Coast and that's good. From Hispaniola & Infiniti Blu to Sea Horse ranch and Gansevort, to Casa Marina and Caribbean Diamond, and many more, it seems that investment continues apace and fellas and families alike still come to visit. So perhaps we can all be just a little more discreet, share the love and enjoy our new found friends and chicas alike. That copy in yer pocket idea sounds logical too. As to creating an entire area/section of town as a red light district ?? I'm not seeing it, and I'm not drinking the kool aid. Families have many places to stay that are lovely and the fellas do too and IMO, they often mix, with good results. Gracias Hermanos, por tus palabras inteligente.
 
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chico bill

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I agree, but to me, more important than all those is that the place needs to be cleaned up, and I'm not talking aout morally. The broken pavements (sidewalks), rubbish all over the place and a generally grimy appearance give a very bad impression for any first-time tourist. It can be done - places like Bayahibe are a great example.
There is a large tree that fell behind Captains Table bar, it fell in the street. The street was made passable (barely) but how many months or years will that tree and the large limbs lay there before they get cut and hauled?

The wire hanging from the electrical lines on the Pedro Clisante on the corner in front of his place has been there 6 months and counting. It's been hit by several cars -

Sosua may pretend to have municipal services but don't be fooled because it is only pretend. Taxes are to steal not to invest in the community

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chico bill

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There are carbon copies of these Chinese emporia all around in Cartagena and the experience is equally as lacklustre. This making money is a serious business for these entrepreneurs and God forbid that shopping should be fun and friendly..Am I the only one that can never find stuff in them? Seems to be a scattergun approach to layout,or maybe you need to be Chinese? It's pretty junky for sure.
If you are adventurous enough to go in these stores then consider it like a scavenger hunt for junk.
I have a friend who lives in Montellano and she frequents a store there that is Dominican owned that sells mostly similar cheap Chinese household goods (goods is an oxymoron) and she won't even go in the Sosua Chinese stores because the quality is even poorer.

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ctrob

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There is a large tree that fell behind Captains Table bar, it fell in the street. The street was made passable (barely) but how many months or years will that tree and the large limbs lay there before they get cut and hauled?

Maybe now some of those Jarabacoa boys will come get it for firewood. Winter is coming.
 
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