The future of Sosua

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lifeisgreat

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I’m in! I can bring my guitar, maybe Windy can back me up. We can belt out a few Union songs and end with a rousing rendition of We shall overc*m.
If we keep it under 8:peps have some imported steaks....we have tires matches marshmallows and steak+ plus music crap this going to be one hell of tailgate party ...I don’t feel comfortable cooking on melting rubber...anyone have a portable bbq?
 

Derfish

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Where? The proximity to the USA and the exchange rate is what drives that lifestyle. And yes the "Mongers" will follow. The people of the Dominican Republic are the only ones that can affect change. And guess what? DO you see any of them lining up to do so? This thread can go on till Jesus returns and until then nothing will change. Keep hope alive.....LOL

Ever been to Mexico? Or Panama? These places cost the same to get to as the DR and the girls are just as available. I rode my Yamaha from Miami to Panama and going through Mexico a girl of about 19 asked to go with me. She didn't have a passport, and I didn't choose to finance one, so she stayed in Mexico, but the chicas are there and just as available.
 

cobraboy

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The people of the Dominican Republic are the only ones that can affect change. And guess what? DO you see any of them lining up to do so?
Seems as though the "people's" elected officials ARE affecting change.
 

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a to the east is Cabarete, just a few years ago it was a formidable monger destination, then Elvis was locked up and it slowed a bit, it now has a more plentiful selection again and Im sure some of the Sosua chicas will slide east if they get pressed too much. The chicas and men will find a place to meet Sosua, Cabarete timbuktoo it doesn't matter
 

barker1964

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Ever been to Mexico? Or Panama? These places cost the same to get to as the DR and the girls are just as available. I rode my Yamaha from Miami to Panama and going through Mexico a girl of about 19 asked to go with me. She didn't have a passport, and I didn't choose to finance one, so she stayed in Mexico, but the chicas are there and just as available.



Yes and Yes. But the proximity to the east coast. A flight from New York or Miami to the DR is way faster than a trip to Mexico r Panama.

Non-stop flight time from New York to Panama City is around 5 hours 15 minutes
Flight time from Santo Domingo to New York is 3 hours 49 minutes. Non-stop.
Non-stop flight time from Miami to Santo Domingo is around 2 hours 30 minutes
The total flight duration from Miami, FL to Panama is 2 hours, 48 minutes.

Expats who wish to in the Dominican Republic on a US$1,000 budget per month can expect to spend around: US$300 and more (up to 800) to rent a nice 2-bedroom apartment or small villa close to town. US$150 for basic utilities

The popularity of Panama among expat retirees is not a secret, and the cost of living, while much lower than in the United States, is rising. Generally speaking, you can live comfortably in Panama from $1,500 to $2,500 per month, but those enjoying more extravagant lifestyles can easily need much more.
 

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For the last few years, many of the guys have been going to Colombia. That trend is only going to increase.
 

barker1964

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For the last few years, many of the guys have been going to Colombia. That trend is only going to increase.



A comfortable life in Colombia is possible on a $1,000 monthly budget. A single expatriate might budget the following monthly amounts: $270 for a one-bedroom apartment; $130 for utilities, Internet service and cellphone service; $200 for groceries; $50 for bus and taxi fares; and $100 for personal and household items.
 

Derfish

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Flight time from Santo Domingo to New York is 3 hours 49 minutes. Non-stop.
Non-stop flight time from Miami to Santo Domingo is around 2 hours 30 minutes
The total flight duration from Miami, FL to Panama is 2 hours, 48 minutes.
Don't see no big difference there myownself, 12 minutes, not time to get your shoes back on for TSA!
 

barker1964

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Flight time from Santo Domingo to New York is 3 hours 49 minutes. Non-stop.
Non-stop flight time from Miami to Santo Domingo is around 2 hours 30 minutes
The total flight duration from Miami, FL to Panama is 2 hours, 48 minutes.
Don't see no big difference there myownself, 12 minutes, not time to get your shoes back on for TSA!



People from New York as well as Florida have a certain love for the DR life.
 

cavok

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I've been to Panama, Mexico, Costa Rica, and Colombia. The majority of mongers in Sosua will never go there. It's not the same.

The majority of mongers coming to Sosua are coming for the wild west, anything goes, 'scene" of hundreds of chicas parading around in spandex and tacones all packed into a relatively short strectch of street lined with bars, discos, and restaurants.

That can't be found in any of those countries above nor duplicated anywhere else here in the DR, unless you want to consider Boca Chica.
 

slowmo

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I've been to Panama, Mexico, Costa Rica, and Colombia. The majority of mongers in Sosua will never go there. It's not the same.

The majority of mongers coming to Sosua are coming for the wild west, anything goes, 'scene" of hundreds of chicas parading around in spandex and tacones all packed into a relatively short strectch of street lined with bars, discos, and restaurants.

That can't be found in any of those countries above nor duplicated anywhere else here in the DR, unless you want to consider Boca Chica.

The wild west can be found most anywhere. The thing Sosua has going for it is the beach and expat friends that you see everyday just because the town is so small.
 

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I’ll bet they all have a plan B. I see them in the bars and resorts in a Playa Dorada, on the Malecon in POP, in Costambar, etc. They will go to where the can make a dollar and keep a lower profile. The police presence along Pedro Clisante will be reduced because they will lose a major source of bribes if the ladies leave.

...Yes in Blue Bay Villas, when I stayed there a few years ago...the ladies in the animation crew were very animated indeed....Doc.....
 

cavok

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The wild west can be found most anywhere. The thing Sosua has going for it is the beach and expat friends that you see everyday just because the town is so small.

I disagree. The only places that come close to the scene in Sosua are found in the Philippeans or Thailand and the Sosua mongers won't be going there anytime soon - way too far.
 

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I still don't really understand why to want to move a scene that is already there to another location to make room for a new scene that is supposed to be coming (family tourists). There is not anything there for those kind of tourists. It's all old decrepit crap. Wouldn't it be much easier to just skip step 1 and create a new location for the avalanche of family tourists?
They can then maybe also create something that is actually fit for family tourism. Behind the beach or something...
 

Ecoman1949

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A comfortable life in Colombia is possible on a $1,000 monthly budget. A single expatriate might budget the following monthly amounts: $270 for a one-bedroom apartment; $130 for utilities, Internet service and cellphone service; $200 for groceries; $50 for bus and taxi fares; and $100 for personal and household items.

There has been an increase in mongers in Columbia. Part of the reason is the influx of destitute Venezuelan ladies who work the streets to survive. The downside is an increased level of violence against gringos has also occurred. A friend of mine, RCMP officer working with the federal police on drug trafficking, is married to a local lady and lives in Medellin. Gringos have been killed for refusing to give their cell phones to local thugs. Granted, the DR has a reputation of violence against gringos in certain areas, but it is no where near what is happening in Columbia.
 

Ecoman1949

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I still don't really understand why to want to move a scene that is already there to another location to make room for a new scene that is supposed to be coming (family tourists). There is not anything there for those kind of tourists. It's all old decrepit crap. Wouldn't it be much easier to just skip step 1 and create a new location for the avalanche of family tourists?
They can then maybe also create something that is actually fit for family tourism. Behind the beach or something...

As long as family oriented resorts continue to exist in places like Cabarete, Playa Dorada, etc., Sosua will never be a family oriented resort town. The cleanup, if it happens, will benefit adult males who have no interest in family resorts. It may benefit property owners but that remains to be seen. The main impact to them has been the downturn in DR property values overall, not the problems on Pedro Clisante Street.
 

ctrob

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I still don't really understand why to want to move a scene that is already there to another location to make room for a new scene that is supposed to be coming (family tourists). There is not anything there for those kind of tourists. It's all old decrepit crap. Wouldn't it be much easier to just skip step 1 and create a new location for the avalanche of family tourists?

The desire isn't to just move it, it's to eliminate it. I don't think they really care to have a Red Light Zone on upper PC, identical in appearance to the old Pedro Clisante.

And as far as old decrepit crap, I hear you. But Sosua could clean up their act. Making Sosua look as nice as cabarete isn't that far of a stretch. Dom's operate on a different schedule. As things start to progress, I think you'll see improvements being made. Just my opinion.

They can then maybe also create something that is actually fit for family tourism. Behind the beach or something...

Those plans already exist. But I'm sure nothing will transpire until the Sosua image changes a bit.
 

chico bill

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As long as family oriented resorts continue to exist in places like Cabarete, Playa Dorada, etc., Sosua will never be a family oriented resort town. The cleanup, if it happens, will benefit adult males who have no interest in family resorts. It may benefit property owners but that remains to be seen. The main impact to them has been the downturn in DR property values overall, not the problems on Pedro Clisante Street.

That is absurd. Many people prefer Sousa including families - the beach is way more tranquil and kid friendly and has a more quaint atmosphere than the windy beach in Cabarete with it's more formal and organized sit down restaurants and bars. Why do you think the Santiago buses go to Sosua beach and not Cabarete (besides no where to park them)

Besides if you have a car you drive around different blocks not just the 1/2 mile strip of 'highway' mixed with local traffic. I fear to see the mess when the paving (currently ghosts) operation rolls through Cabarete - no side streets to loop traffic around - grandes tapons for days
 

chico bill

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Meanwhile the big "limestone" boulders are rolling big time into the ocean behind Casa Marina - Saw at least 5 different John Deere rock trucks hauling and various other smaller truck with medium sized boulder,probably infill - Once they finish the beach we should rush there to see it before a winter of erosion washes it out to Puerto Rico
 
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