The future of Sosua

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CristoRey

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I need someone to show me this law in the Dominican Republic or you guys are just making up things as usual.

Laws? lol, surely you jest?

I'd avoid it all together buddy.
Heaven forbid one of these do
gooder NGO's catch wind of it...

Think not? Then I say you no nothing
about how things are moving down
here now a days.

It used to be called "pimping" now
its called "human trafficking" aka
GAME OVER, should they decide its
your turn.
 
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Garyexpat

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NO it's not Pimping it's promotion ( like you stated )....don't confuse the two

pimping:noun

the action or practice of controlling prostitutes and arranging clients for them, taking part of their earnings in return.

I don't think the DR /policia nacional would care much about the webster definition of the word/term. I would not want to test them on it.
 

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Fanboys? You attacked someone when you're clueless. That doesn't make anyone a fanboy it simply makes you seem like an ignorant clown with an axe to grind. And yes, he is still providing for that orphanage.

If Taylor wasn't doing anything that could get him in trouble why did he stop posting on YouTube and why did he leave Sosua? Either he came to his senses on his own or somebody had a talk with him. And whatever he's doing in P. Plata now is flying under the radar so he's still there, I guarantee you if even one DOMINICAN whose business was shut down called the ayuntamiento and brought Taylor to their attention, Taylor would get deported.
 

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Who said I was trying to inform them of the definition

My point is that they will call it whatever they want and enforce laws how they see fit. Bobby from Rumbas didn't promote prostitution but was closed and sent packing. Passions in Santiago was closed over supposed "human trafficking" and yet some of those same girls marched on the court house to get Passions re-opened and to get their "jobs" back.
I have no need to see any actual law because I know laws mean little in when it comes to enforcement.
Driving while drinking - illegal, I'll have a beer while driving the country, get stopped by cops and get a Pasa buen dia!
Staying in the country over 30 days - illegal - I am one who has written that I have done this for 13+ years, sometimes being in country over a year and NEVER EVER a problem.
I think that anyone that has lived in the DR for any amount of time should realize that they can/will apply the laws (or sometimes make them up) as they see fit. Oh yea, laws are NOT applied equally to Dominicans and Foreigners, just ask a Haitian if you think that is not true.
 

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If Taylor wasn't doing anything that could get him in trouble why did he stop posting on YouTube and why did he leave Sosua? Either he came to his senses on his own or somebody had a talk with him. And whatever he's doing in P. Plata now is flying under the radar so he's still there, I guarantee you if even one DOMINICAN whose business was shut down called the ayuntamiento and brought Taylor to their attention, Taylor would get deported.

I don't know Taylor Made dreams personally and neither do you; so how can I or you know what's going through his mind. For all we know he just got tired of doing it. He's also admitted to having mental health issues. I know when people come down to the capital they expect me to be there tour guide and that gets old quickly. Now imagine people you don't know but think they know you because of YouTube. That gets old quick. It seems you have an axe to grind with that man for whatever reason. Did he steal your favorite chica or something?
 

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Along with every one of the 50,000 people that live there? Really?

well that reminds me of someone on here that said that they were offended that I suggested the waitresses made themselves available to patrons. I guess the thought of their charming waitress serving them a tasty dignified meal giving her number to a gentleman that just picked up a 200 dollar U.S tab is beyond belief.
Got plenty of stories about the cute bank clerks as well. Its Sosua baby!
 

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It's simple what TaylorMade is doing isn't pimping. And promoting a party and pimping aren't equivalent. I need someone to show me this law in the Dominican Republic or you guys are just making up things as usual.


From Sr Guzman in past DR1 post (quoted by SKY) 08-01-2018, 09:36 AM


Art. 334 of the Dominican Penal Code, as amended by Law 24-97 of 1997, states the following:

Ser� considerado proxeneta aqu�l o aqu�lla:

Primero: Que de cualquier manera ayuda, asista o encubra personas, hombres o mujeres con miras a la prostituci�n o al reclutamiento de personas con miras a la explotaci�n sexual;
Segundo: El o la que del ejercicio de esa pr�ctica reciba beneficios de la prostituci�n.
Tercero: El que relacionado con la prostituci�n no pueda justificar los recursos correspondientes a su tren de vida.
Cuarto: El o la que consienta a la prostituci�n de su pareja y obtenga beneficios de �llo;
Quinto: Que contrata, entrena o mantiene, a�n con su consentimiento, una persona, hombre o mujer, aun mayor de edad, con miras a la prostituci�n, la entrega a la prostituci�n, o al desenfreno y relajaci�n de las costumbres;
Sexto: Que hace oficio de intermediario, a cualquer t�tulo, entre las personas (hombres o mujeres) que se dedican a la prostituci�n o al relajamiento de las costumbres o los individuos que explotan o renumeran la prostituci�n y el relajamiento de las costumbres de otro;
S�ptimo: Que por amenazas, presi�n o maniobras, o por cualquier medio, perturba la acci�n de prevenci�n, asistencia o reeducaci�n emprendida por los organismos calificados en favor de las personas (hombres o mujeres) que se dedican a la prostituci�n o est�n en riesgo de prostituci�n.

El proxenetismo se castiga con prisi�n de seis meses a tres a�os y multa de cincuenta mil a quinientos mil pesos.

The law criminalizes the act of pimping in all its manifestations, defining as a procurer or pimp any third party involved in the business of prostitution. It does not criminalize, however, the conduct of the individual, isolated prostitute procuring for herself and having sexual intercourse with a paying partner.

And a follow-up in the same thread:

08-03-2018, 02:29 PM #23

Fabio J. Guzman
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Nothing has changed legally since my post. The new Penal Code, still stuck in Congress because of the abortion issue, deals with prostitution pretty much in the same manner:

Artículo 185. Constituye proxenetismo el hecho de dedicarse e intervenir con fines de lucro a favorecer la prostitución de otra persona en una cualquiera de las formas siguientes:

1) Ayudando, asistiendo o protegiendo la prostitución de otra persona adulta.

2) Obteniendo algún provecho de la prostitución de otra persona que se entrega de modo habitual a esta práctica, repartiendo sus ingresos o recibiendo los pagos, de manera parcial o total.

3) Contratando una persona para la prostitución o llevándola o desviándola hacia esa práctica, o ejerciendo sobre ella presión para que esta se prostituya o siga haciéndolo.

4) Realizando oficios de intermediación entre dos personas para que una se entregue a la prostitución y la otra la explote o le pague.

5) Facilitando al proxeneta la justificación ficticia de los recursos que obtenga de esta práctica, sin perjuicio de las infracciones previstas en la ley sobre lavado de activos.

6) Obstaculizando la prevención, control, asistencia o reeducación emprendida por los órganos públicos competentes contra la prostitución.

Artículo 186. Para los fines de este artículo y de este código, se entenderá por prostitución toda relación sexual realizada a cambio de una remuneración (o promesa de remuneración) económica.

Artículo 187. El proxenetismo será sancionado con dos a tres años de prisión menor y multa de siete a nueve salarios.

Artículo 188. El proxenetismo será sancionado con cuatro a diez años de prisión mayor y multa de cuatro a diez salarios si se comete con una cualquiera de las siguientes circunstancias agravantes:

1) En perjuicio de dos o más víctimas.

2) En perjuicio de una o varias personas que han sido inducidas a entregarse a la prostitución fuera del territorio de la República o con ocasión de su llegada a territorio dominicano.

3) Por un ascendiente en cualquier grado, o por la madre o el padre adoptivo de la víctima que se prostituye, o por una persona que tiene autoridad sobre esta o abusa de la autoridad de hecho que le confieren sus funciones sobre ella, si el vínculo es aparente o conocido por el autor.

4) Por una persona llamada a participar por sus funciones en la lucha contra la prostitución, la protección de la salud o el mantenimiento del orden público.

5) Por una persona que porte un arma.

6) Con el empleo de constreñimiento, violencia o maniobras dolosas contra la víctima.

7) Por varias personas actuando en calidad de autor o cómplice, sin importar que constituyan o no una asociación de malhechores.

8) Por medio de una red de comunicaciones que permita la difusión de mensajes destinados a un público indeterminado.

Artículo 189. Si el proxenetismo se comete contra una persona que sea particularmente vulnerable en razón de su enfermedad, incapacidad, deficiencia física o síquica, o estado de embarazo, y esta situación es aparente o conocida por el autor, la sanción será de veinte a treinta años de prisión mayor y multa de veinte a treinta salarios.

Artículo 190. Se sancionará con las penas de diez a veinte años de prisión mayor y las penas complementarias dispuestas en los artículos 30, 35 y 40 de este código quien cometa de manera habitual, directamente o por interpósita persona, los siguientes hechos:

1) Poseer, administrar, explotar, dirigir, hacer funcionar, financiar o contribuir a realizar una cualquiera de las acciones anteriores [¿] en un establecimiento comercial destinado a la prostitución de adultos.

2) Aceptar o tolerar de modo habitual que una o varias personas se entreguen a la prostitución de adultos en el interior de su establecimiento o en sus anexos y dependencias, o busquen allí clientes para esta práctica.
 

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I don't know Taylor Made dreams personally and neither do you; so how can I or you know what's going through his mind. For all we know he just got tired of doing it. He's also admitted to having mental health issues. I know when people come down to the capital they expect me to be there tour guide and that gets old quickly. Now imagine people you don't know but think they know you because of YouTube. That gets old quick. It seems you have an axe to grind with that man for whatever reason. Did he steal your favorite chica or something?

Yes he did :cry:

Well if he didn't want to be a tour guide then why did he get into that business precisely? His whole shtick was showing the ropes to first timers, what to do and where to go. As far as an axe to grind, I've only met him a few times when he was promoting his parties, so nothing personal (apart from stealing my one and only lol).
 

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When your a whore mongerer that’s all you see and think they are different breed, we are learning a lot about them on this thread emotional bunch..

just a realist , not a monger, sorry you take offense to the facts of life in Sosua. I am sure Tijuana and Pattaya has its visitors that turn a blind eye to the facts of life.
 

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When your a whore mongerer that’s all you see and think they are different breed, we are learning a lot about them on this thread emotional bunch..

Ain't that a fact. A breed apart. To each his own I say. The DR says, please go elsewhere, which is a hard learned message for them. Discretion is not a part of their valor, these days.
 

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well that reminds me of someone on here that said that they were offended that I suggested the waitresses made themselves available to patrons. I guess the thought of their charming waitress serving them a tasty dignified meal giving her number to a gentleman that just picked up a 200 dollar U.S tab is beyond belief.
Got plenty of stories about the cute bank clerks as well. Its Sosua baby!

P.S don't even get me started on the grocery stores. lol
 

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franco111, just about any involvement by a third party with prostitution could be construed as pimping from those laws.
 

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Ain't that a fact. A breed apart. To each his own I say. The DR says, please go elsewhere, which is a hard learned message for them. Discretion is not a part of their valor, these days.

where is "elsewhere" for the thousands of Dominican men. You know the ones I work with, that are absolutely great customers.
 

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where is "elsewhere" for the thousands of Dominican men. You know the ones I work with, that are absolutely great customers.

Nobody said anything ever about Dominican men going elsewhere. What happened in Sosua is NOT about them and prostitutes.

And that should be very significant to anyone who understands how things work here.
 

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Yes he did :cry:

Well if he didn't want to be a tour guide then why did he get into that business precisely? His whole shtick was showing the ropes to first timers, what to do and where to go. As far as an axe to grind, I've only met him a few times when he was promoting his parties, so nothing personal (apart from stealing my one and only lol).

Lol if I ever come to the north coast I'm going to find you and buy you a beer. I like your posts lol
 
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