Timber. Denuding the trees across from Sosua Beach

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That would certainly be fascinating if it were true.
but then why is it now in her HUSBANDS name ? did she transfer it to him ?
It fails the sniff test , but if someone can find out that would be of interest .

Are you Dominican, why does transfer of title of DORSA land concern you?
It is what it is, I am not condoning stripping the land of beautiful Caoba trees, just sayin'.
 

JD Jones

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Isn't there a few DORSA houses still standing behind the shacks?
 

ctrob

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Isn't there a few DORSA houses still standing behind the shacks?

If your talking about the beach vendor shacks, yes. There are at least two houses back there. I didn't realize they were original DORSA homes.
 

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I had to check online to find out what DORSA meant. For those ignorant on the subject, as I was, The DORSA (Dominican Republic Settlement Association) helped settle Jews in Sosúa at the beginning of the second world war.
 

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chico bill

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What was done here was criminal. The owners or their engineer either misrepresented the project or paid off Ambiente to allow this travesty.

A Commercial Plaza in the worst possible location which will make traffic nightmares permanent, block Caribe Tours and the entry into Charamicos.
Also think about a paved parking lot with cars dripping oil on asphalt. All the run off from the hill above will go across the parking lot and wash the mud and oil onto the beach and Sosua Bay. At a minimum they will need a large stilling basin (aka a bioswale, which probably few in DR know about).
And what about the lights in the parking lot and neon signs on the stores reflecting out over Sosua Bay. It rains here a lot and they often are heavy rains. It is raining quite hard now as I type.

But the scar is there permanently even if they do stop the project (which they won't)
Money (or more money) will change hands for sure.
There were also workers with chain saws on other parcels cutting Caoba trees that did not belong to the parcel this project is on. The poster above caught them and stopped them on one parcel. At a minimum there should be some significant FINES, reimbursement to other owners - if not jail time ?

They also put limbs and tree debris onto the private Los Cerros access road, partially blocking the road on a tight corner. Their equipment has broken limbs not on their property.

These owners do not care about a quality project or the environment impact whatsoever.
They have had hundreds of 10 yard trucks leaving daily full of dirt, for 10 days, blocking traffic in both directions and tracking mud onto Highway 5, also dropping some rocks with no effort to clean the road. The truck and excavators have broken a large section of the curb and sidewalk which was just completed in the last year. They also filled the curb with dirt as a truck ramp which is backing up the rain in the gutter onto the travelway.

Equipment has undercut other Caobas and a few palm trees basically cutting their root systems and you can see the trees literally dying daily. You can spot them in the photo above if you look carefully.
 

chico bill

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What was done here was criminal. The owners or their engineer either misrepresented the project or paid off Ambiente to allow this travesty.

A Commercial Plaza in the worst possible location which will make traffic nightmares permanent, block Caribe Tours and the entry into Charamicos.
Also think about a paved parking lot with cars dripping oil on asphalt. All the run off from the hill above will go across the parking lot and wash the mud and oil onto the beach and Sosua Bay. At a minimum they will need a large stilling basin (aka a bioswale, which probably few in DR know about).
And what about the lights in the parking lot and neon signs on the stores reflecting out over Sosua Bay. It rains here a lot and they often are heavy rains. It is raining quite hard now as I type.

But the scar is there permanently even if they do stop the project (which they won't)
Money (or more money) will change hands for sure.
There were also workers with chain saws on other parcels cutting Caoba trees that did not belong to the parcel this project is on. A neighbor to the project caught them and stopped them on one parcel they did not own. At a minimum there should be some significant FINES, reimbursement to other owners - if not jail time ?

They also put limbs and tree debris onto the private Los Cerros access road, partially blocking the road on a tight corner. Their equipment has broken limbs not on their property.

These owners do not care about a quality project or the environment impact whatsoever.
They have had hundreds of 10 yard trucks leaving daily full of dirt, for 10 days, blocking traffic in both directions and tracking mud onto Highway 5, also dropping some rocks with no effort to clean the road. The truck and excavators have broken a large section of the curb and sidewalk which was just completed in the last year. They also filled the curb with dirt as a truck ramp which is backing up the rain in the gutter onto the travelway.

Equipment has undercut other Caobas and a few palm trees basically cutting their root systems and you can see the trees literally dying daily. You can spot them in the photo above if you look carefully.
 
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Someone morphed the relevant posts to the other thread about Spanish advertising, good job!


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ctrob

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Well they are down there working with excavators as I type so they must be defying the order ?

That was quick. They should still have to pay for damaging neighbors trees.

It does seem like it's a horrible spot for a commercial plaza, but it may be part of the bigger plan to provide some shopping/restaurants for future residents in the new developments above and below on the beach side or rt5.
 

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I have read that some developers who are having a tough time getting a permit to cut down trees would prefer to just go ahead and cut them down and pay the fine.
The fines are just not enough to be much of a deterrent.
Whatever is the case here...
It is heartbreaking to see those trees being uprooted so callously.
There is nothing so disheartening or frustrating than to witness such activity knowing that one has no opportunity to alter the outcome and must live with the results.
From 1970...


Plus ça change.
 

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I have read that some developers who are having a tough time getting a permit to cut down trees would prefer to just go ahead and cut them down and pay the fine.
The fines are just not enough to be much of a deterrent.
Whatever is the case here...
It is heartbreaking to see those trees being uprooted so callously.
There is nothing so disheartening or frustrating than to witness such activity knowing that one has no opportunity to alter the outcome and must live with the results.
From 1970...


Plus ça change.
Easier to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission.
 
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jd426

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I have read that some developers who are having a tough time getting a permit to cut down trees would prefer to just go ahead and cut them down and pay the fine.
The fines are just not enough to be much of a deterrent.

Whatever is the case here...
It is heartbreaking to see those trees being uprooted so callously.
There is nothing so disheartening or frustrating than to witness such activity knowing that one has no opportunity to alter the outcome and must live with the results.
From 1970...


Plus ça change.

Excellent point .
I WAS actually going to theorize exactly the same
but I have no such knowledge , nor did i read it anywhere else ..
thanks for finding that out .

but yeagh, Big Projects , its easier to just Violate the Laws and Pay the Fines , rather than go through the Legal Process .
Plus if they sold those trees .. the $ they got there probably pays the insignificant Fines .

This project is a complete disgrace
 
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