U.S. to order COVID vaccines from all visitors starting in November

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From Dominican Today

All aliens traveling to the United States will be required to show proof of vaccination before boarding. Three days before the flight, a negative test said White House COVID-19 coordinator Jeff Zients, who announced the new policy.
President Joe Biden’s administration will also tighten rules for Americans who have not been vaccinated. They will have to be tested a day before leaving the United States and returning.
Fully vaccinated passengers will not be required to quarantine, Zeints said.

 
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Luperon

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"President Joe Biden’s administration will also tighten rules for Americans who have not been vaccinated. They will have to be tested a day before leaving the United States and returning." One day? What about returning Americans vaccinated?
 

chico bill

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At some point tourism will be stopped.
As it stands now things are not making sense, but political reasons dictate that Covid must be made into a new round of scary.
At some point people will realize the cataclysmic economic repercussions of tighter lockdowns but by then it will be too late.
World recession could be triggered - and maybe it's overdue.
 
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"President Joe Biden’s administration will also tighten rules for Americans who have not been vaccinated. They will have to be tested a day before leaving the United States and returning." One day? What about returning Americans vaccinated?
You will still be required to be tested to enter the US..........the 72 hour rule is still in effect (but subject to change as they formulate and distribute their final policy) for those fully vaccinated with approved vaccinations.

As to CB's post above, these rules as announced will likely hurt, not help, tourism to the DR. With slightly over 50% of the US population fully vaccinated, the new regulations may force a wave of cancellations as tourists view them as too onerous. Realistically speaking, a family of four going to the DR that remain un-vaccinated need 8 tests............four out/four in a 24 hour period before flying. It is not so much the testing, as that has been in place for some time now, but rather the narrow window to accomplish it in.

The airlines lobbied hard for this to open up their most profitable routes to/from Europe. It remains to be seen whether it works.................of course it also provides the government the ultimate goal to try to regulate policy to get people to vaccinate............as they could not legally legislate a mandatory vaccine for all citizens and permanent residents.

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If anyone finds a better source stating Americans flying out of the US need a test within one day, please post it. I suspect that is NOT the case.

I am finding a requirement for tests within 3 days before flying in for all, along with vaccinations required for foreign nationals.

 

Lobo Tropical

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That is exactly what they want.

And these vaccine mandates are not about Covid anymore, as in the near future those "vaccine passports" will not just include your vaccine data.
it's a bigger and wider objective in the making.

The US has proven that the government is incapable of leading and controlling its citizens into the right direction, even tough vaccines are readily available.
So much for so called personal freedoms and rights.

The government can however control the ingress of international travellers, by demanding full vaccination to protect US citizens somewhat.
Good on them, they are not afraid to lose tourism revenues.
Who wants to sit on a long international flight with unvaccinated passengers?
And which country wants ingress of unvaccinated persons, especially from high infection areas?
Cooperations and businesses may also have requirements, in order to provide services.

Any business operating on an international basis is aware of this, stringent rules exist in many countries restricting ingress because of covid 19.
Many require proof of vaccination to enter restaurants and other venues.
These are the new realities, which will continue to exist.
Windy stated his opinion "No one will be safe. CV19 is here, there and everywhere to stay."
Which is at least partially wrong.

There is a world of dreams, fiction and believes even extending into religions and covid vaccinations, without any basis on reality and scientific facts.

The US has the highest infection and death rate in the world.
Look at the next four countries which follow.
The reasons why it is so, is a failed policy of those countries.
Cold and hard facts.

The countries who are doing substantially better with low infection rates and deaths are in this position not by coincidence, but because of better policies to control covid 19.
This is the world of cold hard facts, science and reality.
This is why some are safer than others.

 

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The US has proven that the government is incapable of leading and controlling its citizens into the right direction, even tough vaccines are readily available.
So much for so called personal freedoms and rights.

The government can however control the ingress of international travellers, by demanding full vaccination to protect US citizens somewhat.
Good on them, they are not afraid to lose tourism revenues.
Who wants to sit on a long international flight with unvaccinated passengers?
And which country wants ingress of unvaccinated persons, especially from high infection areas?
Cooperations and businesses may also have requirements, in order to provide services.

Any business operating on an international basis is aware of this, stringent rules exist in many countries restricting ingress because of covid 19.
Many require proof of vaccination to enter restaurants and other venues.
These are the new realities, which will continue to exist.
Windy stated his opinion "No one will be safe. CV19 is here, there and everywhere to stay."
Which is at least partially wrong.

There is a world of dreams, fiction and believes even extending into religions and covid vaccinations, without any basis on reality and scientific facts.

The US has the highest infection and death rate in the world.
Look at the next four countries which follow.
The reasons why it is so, is a failed policy of those countries.
Cold and hard facts.

The countries who are doing substantially better with low infection rates and deaths are in this position not by coincidence, but because of better policies to control covid 19.
This is the world of cold hard facts, science and reality.
This is why some are safer than others.

You do not have your cold hard facts correct. The US ranks 20th in deaths per million. The US would ranked about 40th if they did not count people with cancer, traffic accidents and heart attack deaths in the count when they happened to test positive for Covid. The US would have done much better also if they didn't put positive Covid elderly back in nursing homes in PA and New York.
 
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reilleyp

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You do not have your cold hard facts correct. The US ranks 20th in deaths per million. The US would ranked about 40th if they did not count people with cancer, traffic accidents and heart attack deaths in the count when they happened to test positive for Covid. The US would have done much better also if they didn't put positive Covid elderly back in nursing homes in PA and New York.
 

reilleyp

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You do not have your cold hard facts correct. The US ranks 20th in deaths per million. The US would ranked about 40th if they did not count people with cancer, traffic accidents and heart attack deaths in the count when they happened to test positive for Covid. The US would have done much better also if they didn't put positive Covid elderly back in nursing homes in PA and NY
The US also ranks #1 in the world on "Total Recovered" covid cases at 33,392,421. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
 

Lobo Tropical

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The US also ranks #1 in the world on "Total Recovered" covid cases at 33,392,421. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

#1 moving ahead​

United Airlines’ vaccine mandate a public relations win​


Mon, September 27, 2021, 8:16 AM


United Airlines recently revealed in a memo to emloyees that more than 97 per cent of its U.S.-based workers have been vaccinated for COVID-19. This comes just before a Sept. 27 deadline for staff vaccinations. The U.S.-based airline took a tough stance and required that its 67,000 American employees get vaccinated, or face termination. While six employees have sued United over the mandate, a spokesperson said of the complaint that "at this point we think it's without merit."
 

aarhus

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Is there a time limit on a vaccination? If you got vaccinated March this year but you are visiting the US March next year for instance?
 

aarhus

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There will be when they start mandating booster shots for travel into the US.
I did Sinovac in May but never did second jab. That’s why I am considering waiting until a trip I have planned in Feb or March and then get Pfizer
 

MiamiDRGuy

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Just wait when Pfizer launch a new daily COVID 19 pill and they are already developing/testing that so once its all OK'ed by FDA, then no more vaccines. Here we come, CV19 Pills.

Crazy ...
 

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Just wait when Pfizer launch a new daily COVID 19 pill and they are already developing/testing that so once its all OK'ed by FDA, then no more vaccines. Here we come, CV19 Pills.

Crazy ...
Not so crazy amigo. Pfizer’s new Viagra. Another potential windfall for a major pharmaceutical company where their financial bottom line means more than people’s lives. Pop a Covid pill in the morning and a Viagra pill in the evening. You don’t get screwed and you do get screwed! 🤣
 

JD Jones

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Not so crazy amigo. Pfizer’s new Viagra. Another potential windfall for a major pharmaceutical company where their financial bottom line means more than people’s lives. Pop a Covid pill in the morning and a Viagra pill in the evening. You don’t get screwed and you do get screwed! 🤣
Hey, Cialis has a daily pill (expensive) and the DR has a generic daily named Vuvuzuela that is downright cheap.
 

JD Jones

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Correct. And only about 20 pesos a pill more or less.