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Talldrink said:
I can do Acropolis and even hang out by the Boulevard a few times, but I like my everyday Dominican life as well.

Now, what and where is the Acropolis and what type of Dominicans go there? And what is the name of "the Boulevard"? What's there?
 

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juancarlos said:
Now, what and where is the Acropolis and what type of Dominicans go there? And what is the name of "the Boulevard"? What's there?
The Acropolis is an office/retail mix center along Avenida Winston Churchill.

It's extremely hard to avoid the tower.

The building was built by the Citibank group and its sometimes referred to as the Citybank Tower (yes, they do write it with a y) or Torre Citybank, but most people simply refer to it as Acropolis.

The Acropolis name refers to the shopping mall that is also part of the complex. The shopping mall looks like the inside of a ship.

The structure itself (tower and shopping mall) has a post modern architecture, based on heavy use of glass. It is a very modern looking structure and was the first office tower built from Iron Steel beams on the island (as oppose with cement).

Given that it is a shopping mall and many of the retail establishments and restaurants are international and/or of upper tastes, many of the people who visit this place are high-income and middle-income Dominicans and expatriates. From time to time you will see a Puerto Rican or other tourist bringing in a poor Dominican with them to the shopping mall and the restaurants and they might attract some unwanted extra attention, but its mostly a middle class/upper class dominated site. The fact that the entire structure is in the affluent part of town also help in attracting upper/middle class society.

With regard to the "Boulevar", that is simply the name to an open air park or plaza that was built in the median of Avenida 27 de Febrero across from the former offices of Baninter (today Scotiabank) and Plaza Central (the pink building with the apple). This open air space is very attractive with a cafe, interesting sculptures made by Dominican artist (though many lower class Dominicans believe the sculptures were made in Italy, as if to say such sculpture can't possibly be Dominican), gardens on the edge, a tower clock that plays Merengue Tipico tunes everytime an hour goes by, etc.

The place is deserted through much of the day due to the strong sun and the lack of substancial shade within the plaza itself, given that the trees that line both sides of the park are young palms.

On both sides of the park moves the often heavy and noisy traffic that Avenida 27 de Febrero is known for.

The bulevar is visited by all types of Dominicans, expatriates, and visitors.

Click on the following link to see the Citibank Tower. This site also contains archives of most towers of Santo Domingo and the rest of the world.

http://www.emporis.com/en/il/im/?id=192452
 
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juancarlos said:
Thanks, Nal0whs, very good information.
No problem.

Just one tiny correction, the Citibank Tower was not the first building that was built from Steel beams, the first building to do so was the Intercentro Tower (It's a glass box, similar to others around the world).

However, Citibank Tower may seem like nothing special to foreigners, but the truth is that Citibank Tower is a "new" inovative post-modern structure, more eclectic than most other architectural styles that had been used in Santo Domingo.

This city is great for architects and architecture enthusiast because this city has every type of architectural type known to man! We even have Egyptian Revival architectural columns lining the facade of the Palacio de Bellas Artes! And the new Audi Automobile Showroom is a beauty of its own in ultra-modern (sort of futuristic, which is appropriate for the rather futuristic Audi Automobiles). The showroom certainly deserves admiration just for its architectural beauty and of course, those beautiful Audis in the lot.

The Colonial Zone is chock full of its own splendour, including the only examples of double gothic windows in the Western Hemisphere in the Casa de Tostado.

From simple and boring to grandiose and spectacular, Santo Domingo has it all! ;)
 

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Talldrink said:
Nal0whs you should make a commercial for visiting DR... Thank you!
Well, lets see...

Let's use Fernandito Villalona's "Dominicano Soy" song in the background...

You know: "Dominicano soy, de mis raices nunca voy olvidarme, soy de una raza tan humilde y tan grande, monte criste?o por la gracia de dios... etc"

Short areal shots following the malecon, snap shots of Parque Colon in SDQ with a flock of pegeons flying away, a quick shot of a horse drawn carriage stopping in front of Fortaleza Ozama, and a 180 degrees shot of Plaza de Espa?a with Las Atarazanas on the left side and the Alcazar on the right.

Then, other short snapshots of Diente de Perro golf course, Boca Chica beach, aerial shot of the Puerto Plata Cablecar going up the mountain, another shot of an entire Dominican family on a motorcycle passing through an intersection, a couple dancing merengue under the silhoutte of a royal palm tree, and a final shot of the sun setting along the beach of Juan Dolio with it's palm groves being reflected on the calm sea.

Then a still screen with a collage of beautiful Dominican sites, people, and such, followed by the words "Dominican Republic" sliding from the upper left corner.

Then a deep male voice says "This is the Dominican Republic: Come and experience our Caribbean"

And of course, that would be followed by "For more information on vacation possibilities in the Dominican Republic, call your favorite travel agent or contact us at (###) ###-#### or at www.dominicanrepublic.com"

So, what do you think?!

LOL. :laugh:

I have to say, this is not such a bad idea....
 

Talldrink

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You just did a Presidente Beer Commercial (which I LOVE too!)

Hey I heard that the ship design of the Acropolis was from a student. Supposedly it was an art project or something. Do you know anything about this?
 

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You excluded sankies/sankiettes

Nal0whs said:
Well, lets see...

Let's use Fernandito Villalona's "Dominicano Soy" song in the background...

You know: "Dominicano soy, de mis raices nunca voy olvidarme, soy de una raza tan humilde y tan grande, monte criste?o por la gracia de dios... etc"

Then a deep male voice says "This is the Dominican Republic: Come and experience our Caribbean"

And of course, that would be followed by "For more information on vacation possibilities in the Dominican Republic, call your favorite travel agent or contact us at (###) ###-#### or at www.dominicanrepublic.com"

So, what do you think?!

LOL. :laugh:

I have to say, this is not such a bad idea....

Then you lose all those sankie/sankiette lovers/defenders/seekers .... you lose much dinero there!!!!
 

NALs

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Talldrink said:
You just did a Presidente Beer Commercial (which I LOVE too!)

Hey I heard that the ship design of the Acropolis was from a student. Supposedly it was an art project or something. Do you know anything about this?
Sorry for responding so late, I have a life outside of DR1. LOL :laugh: :classic:

That is what the "chismosos" keep telling me.

I don't know how they learn of everybody's business, but they do...

;)
 

Talldrink

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Nal0whs said:
Sorry for responding so late, I have a life outside of DR1. LOL :laugh: :classic:
That is what the "chismosos" keep telling me.
I don't know how they learn of everybody's business, but they do... ;)

Was this the response to MY post? :confused:
 

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I being born and raised in the U.S. can say that I do like MTV and all those channels that many critize and also listen to hip hop and those music that many consider garbage but the problem here is not whether the programs and music are at ur like or their bad influence. I believe the problem is that many young Dominicans as well as Americans can't be open minded and learned about everything without letting it influence then in their lives. I personally can speak ghetto and can listen and watch garbage as many would say but I went to college, have had great jobs and can sit and have an educated conversation about anything. Coming from Dominican parents I still like my merengue and bachata but can also listen to country music. I believe that the youth every where is just being narrow minded at times and going for what is cool and sometimes cool just doesn't cut it. Cultures all over the world is being overshadowed by whats in style at the moment. Its sad but as I read in the NY Times even languages are vanishing.

In reference to beers the Miller I believe taste like dirty water down beer and if I had a choice of beer I would go for Corona. But in D.R. anything that is imported is so expensive is crazy and sad for some of our pockets :cry: .
 

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Doing you

I believe daddy1 said it best. The Dominican youth may not be pleasing many of their elders or conservative members, but they are doing nothing less than young generations have been doing for centuries. The young always think of doing things differently from how their elders taught them. That is how we grow in ALL areas (science, music, arts, fashion, etc...).

"If you always do what you have always done, you will always get what you have always gotten"

Also, the elder generation has always criticised the younger generation for doing things differently. It is a tradition that has no beginning or ending.

Whether the influence comes from the USA/Europe/Asia, the Dominican culture like any other will change over time. All cultures do, but many keep some of the strong tenets or foundations of their forefathers/mothers. Let the young have their time and don't try to steal their youth. Remember being young and trying to find your way???? :beard:
 

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Antillano said:
Is there a Caribbean Cinemas in the shopping mall of the Acropolis (Torre Citibank)?
Yes there is a Caribbean cinemas at the Acropolis.
 

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Nal0whs said:
Yes there is a Caribbean cinemas at the Acropolis.

That's interesting. I always thought that there were only Caribbean Cinemas in Puerto Rico, Trinidad, and St. Thomas. Even the company's website doesn't mention branches in Santo Domingo. Is there any other Caribbean Cinemas theaters in the city and the country? Thanks.
 

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The Dominican People, {generalising} and much of the world over have lost its identity. People don't like or want to assume themselves associated with or connected with rejection, failure, backwardness or desolation. And out of fear don't want to be singled out or prejudiced against

The American Culture concept is like a campaign as being the world leader in civilization and development. Therefore, many will embrace and promote the american structure, and vehemently deny thier own. And what you deny you can't confront.

Growing up I readily embraced it until I become more knowledgeable about it. I found that the American Culture seemingly represented liberation (to do whatever want), inspire rebellion (there were freedom you wanted to aspire to) and opportunity (most likely to make success overnight). I find the american culture, for those outside, appeal more to dreamers, and those who felt rejected, have failure, oppressed or something along this line.

In the process of denial of who you are to an extended, you traded in who you are to be for someone else, or to be like someone else. But if you'd be someone else, or like someone else, then who will be you?
There is a uniqueness to everyone, and with time, chance and opportunty comes to everyone, but so many jump on the campaign to join superiority, that they have give or lose thier power of supreme or sovereignty so as to become dependent on someone else --- waiting to be ordered or to be led. Look at the Icons oriented people in this aspect: When Paris Hilton change here style, this is what some will do also. This is a form of inferiority complex that make people misfits. And people just want a place to belong! These people have never fitted into their culture (eventhough they may have been accepted), and I'm not certain that they wanted to either.
This just doesn't happen where exported commercialize culture is concern, but also in the midst of society. In the same way the american culture is consider by many to have a more appealing value, those in the community on the superior enclaves dictate to those below what is acceptable and what is now in fashion. The rich nation thrives from the poorer ones, and the well to do in the community thrives from the ones whom need to be led.

The leading positions only need to convince the mass or the market that they are in need or have a problem, and they likely have a solution or can benifit from an implementation. Ofcourse usually times this have been beguiled information. How many times, have those commercials appeal to you that it is it going to benifit you in some way or form, but later there is something more appealing?
Take for instance those weight loss program. There would be medical specialist to say all the nice things about the program, then later, you would hear a new realise of something else that people are chasing or rumors of
lawsuits or products being pull from the market due to it not performing within its capacity. Misinformation have been the mode of transmission to feed the mass and the minority days of old
 

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asopao said:
It is sad, you see these young ones that haven't had a year in the U.S yet, and they be talking that horrible " Spanglish" , instead of proper Spanish. That shows a total lack of culture. Also , many youth listening to that garbage music " hip hop"; praising thughs like 50 Cents, calling each other " niggas" ,etc. All that " ghetto" culture taking over. It is a disgrace


well i guess had Dominicans migrated to let say "kentuckY" rather than New York, they would just look ridiculous in cowboy hats and singing country music. hahahahah.
 

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"dominican" influence on americans, irony

being born and raised in the u.s. as well as many of my friends (dominicans, born and raised here,) i see many people like us trying to be "dominican." when i say this, i mean trying to be different from the american standard. finding ways to stand out as dominicans and it is ironic that dominicans in DR are dressing and speaking like americans. it also could be a way of dominican-americans taking pride in their culture and heritage but i do see the irony in it.. yee haa .. thats it.
 

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That is the beauty of diversity

That you have the opportunity to pick and choose who you want to be without somebody breathing culture behind your neck all the time...let you be you, and respect others for who they have excepted to be regardless of culture or background... a Dominican may love country music or hip hop or baptist style gospel music, and heavy metal...it has nothing to do with culture!! should Dominican's not eat hot dogs or sweet potatoe pie...is this setting back the culture, is watching american comedy shows or American comedian's like Dave chappel, is this a no no for Dominicanos as well....please get off the culture trip already....start opening your narrow minds and live a little this is what makes the U.S. so great... life is not all about rice and beans beer and baseball... that's called limiting yourself and not expanding your horizons, it's shallow, boring!! but "most of all down right counter productive...I mean can you imagine if Christopher Columbus were Dominican...I mean hispanola would still be indigenous...being from a specific place only dignifies where your from...and in essence that's all it is..."choice"..is the ultimate freedom to be who you want to be, and what sets you apart from everyone else...free will it's a God given right! remember that! being Dominican did not come with a set of rules of how you should act or be...
 

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What is American Culture?

American Culture consists of the beliefs and way of life of Blacks, Italians, Jews, Latinos, Asians, Indians, etc... all wrapped up in one. I believe Dominican Culture is effecting American Culture. When a New Yorker is hungry and wants to go out he does not contemplate whether to have steak, fish, or chicken. He will ponder whether to have Spanish, Asian, or Italian food. Its a two way street both cultures effects one another.