When will DR open for International travel??????

[windeguy]

Poder Ejecutivo solicita extensión del estado de emergencia por 17 días a partir del 14 de junio

Gobierno solicita esta tarde una quinta prórroga al estado de emergencia

www.diariolibre.com

Will the deputies just say no to even one day of extensions?

 

[Africaida]

Poder Ejecutivo solicita extensión del estado de emergencia por 17 días a partir del 14 de junio

Gobierno solicita esta tarde una quinta prórroga al estado de emergencia

www.diariolibre.com

Will the deputies just say no to even one day of extensions?

I don't know much about Politics, but it seems that they always grant it, just a little less than they asked.

I'd say 10 days this time

 

[GusFring]

Will another extension of the SOE delay opening the DR in July sometime?

 

[GusFring]

he's now playing their game...
not asking for the full time limit.... end of the month....

they should do it.... we spinning down the Corona drain quickly.....
reopen was too early... as predicted
all but 6 provinces reported increases - and now the buses are running

526 new cases last Sunday. The new single highest daily total. Almost 40% of covid beds used. Buses running full bore.

 

[austriaco]

Seems to me, like he is strongly pushing for a july opening. I may be wrong, but that's how I understand it.

You're not wrong, that's what he is saying.

Of course, but at the same time he is right businesswise too. Missing July and maybe Agosto you really can forget it. September and October I could have closed my hotel any year anyway even without a virus.

 

[austriaco]

I don't know why folks would acquire assets here without at least residency. This was an issue for many condo owners up there in the Farallones/Catalina.

Maybe because residency requieres to be in RD at least 180 days a year? 90% of the foreigners I know with properties are in RD maximum one month a year and none has a residency. None of them has the desire to come right now to RD anyway.

Reading here you cant enter RD even with residency - different to most other countries rules - is not motivating anyone to get one...

 

[austriaco]

If the DR requires a 7 day or 14 day quarantine upon arrival, after they open the country, obviously no tourists will come.

When they open the country they will also lift any quarantine and substitute Covid 19 protocals for entering. You would think this would be a fairly obvious concept to understand.

No, not really. If you follow development in other tourist destinations you can see that the trend is to do covit testing at entering. Some like greece requiere a stay of one night till the test comes back.

The 14 days quarantine is done in non-touristic countries which do not care about tourists coming. Like UK...

 

[austriaco]

I think the government policy will evolve around protecting Punta Cana, with the majority of visitors, in the short term and the long term.

But practically quarantining the AI tourists in the AIs in Punta Cana is not protecting Punta Cana. Unless they give every AI employee a haz mat gear like in the covit wards ( i am sure thats a nice holiday feeling like in the ebola movie). If not its known from every other tourist destination before that the employees will get infected. Unless they are all in quarantina too - not going to happen. If they are stupid enough to think closing in tourists will solve anything they will learn it solves nothing except endangering Punta Cana. Wait till the infected tourists infect the employees and those every other tourist coming...nice headlines ahead.

Testing everyone is the only possible solution and then yes it makes sense to seal of the AI But including the employees.

 

[austriaco]

Poder Ejecutivo solicita extensión del estado de emergencia por 17 días a partir del 14 de junio

Gobierno solicita esta tarde una quinta prórroga al estado de emergencia

www.diariolibre.com

Will the deputies just say no to even one day of extensions?

Can anyone explain this obsession to rule with presidential decrees? Why not like most other democratic countries pass the proper laws which allow the needed rules by law?

its correct that the parlament needs to agree to the State of emergency for the president to rule like in a dictatorship. But the real democratic way is with the parlament making the the very rules via laws.

Hungary did the same like RD and they got very nasty coments about beeing almost a dictatorship as everyone else used more democratic ways to reach the goal.

of course the democratic way is more complicated and adult...then giving the big papi the keys

 

[austriaco]

Salsa....
from what I read they do NOT enforce the mask rule...

Flight attendants are told to advise not enforce the mask rule


“If you’re traveling right now, be prepared to advocate for yourself,” she wrote, adding that, “United did not follow their own social distancing guidelines,” and many travelers were not wearing masks.
Nicole Carriere, a spokeswoman for United, said that face coverings are mandatory for all employees and passengers onboard and the airline is providing free masks to customers who need them. In instances where people refuse to wear a mask, they can be pulled aside “to further understand their concerns and discuss options,” Ms. Carriere said. “This would include things like moving them to a new seat where they could maintain a safe social distance from other passengers.”
Denying someone boarding would be a “last resort,” she said.

He was taking about the rules EU will impose on international travel.They are working out those rules.

I hear medical masks obligatory during the full flight. Your homemade mask is not in the game.

Once thet are set they are obligatory for all flights to that EU destinations ( inluding american airlines) and I guess for European airlines regardless to where they fly.

But generally the borders of EU schengen are still closed for tourists. The Visa C are still suspended and no new Visas C can be made till further notice. Last I heard was July 1 as maybe opening EU to tourists.

but could be later. Opening is happening now slowly within EU for domestic tourists only.

Remember GB is outside of that ( brexit and never was schengen)

 

[william webster]

No, not really. If you follow development in other tourist destinations you can see that the trend is to do covit testing at entering. Some like greece requiere a stay of one night till the test comes back.

The 14 days quarantine is done in non-touristic countries which do not care about tourists coming. Like UK...

GREECE
My friend is a Greek - a returning citizen - he tested negative going into Greece and was quarantined for 14 days

His journey was DR - NYC - LHR..... no testing anywhere
He continued UK to Paris to Greece....spent a night in Paris

the only testing done was Greece

The EU/UK/USA countries are not being very diligent

 

[william webster]

I don't know much about Politics, but it seems that they always grant it, just a little less than they asked.

I'd say 10 days this time

The extensions have been limited to 2 week or month end bites....
He's trying to get to June 30....

average time for symptoms to appear is 11 days.....

and of course, cases are rising thanks to a premature opening (say some)

 

[william webster]

El argumento del Gobierno para solicitar el estado de emergencia

El presidente de la Republica, Danilo Medina, justifico en su solicitud la necesidad de extender por quinta vez el Estado de Emergencia, al expresar su pre

listindiario.com

The Government's argument to request a state of emergency

PRESIDENT MEDINA ADMITTED THAT ECONOMIC OPENNESS RESULTED IN AN INCREASE IN THE FLOW OF PEOPLE

The President of the Republic, Danilo Medina, justified in his request the need to extend the State of Emergency for the fifth time, expressing his concern that the number of positive cases of coronavirus will increase excessively.

"Although we successfully concluded the first phase, we have the enormous challenge of executing the current and subsequent phases of said plan in such a way as to avoid a lack of control in cases of infection that eventually overflows the hospital's response capacity," Medina wrote to the president. in office of the Senate, Arístides Victoria Yeb.

Likewise, the president admitted that the gradual economic opening has brought with it a great increase in the flow of people on the streets, which increases the risk of contagion of the population.

Therefore, the president indicated that it is necessary to maintain restrictions on traffic at certain times, in addition to the temporary closure of amusement centers and restaurants that could cause crowds, measures that are maintained thanks to the State of Emergency.

He also warned that other countries have had to make the decision to reverse their measures to de-escalate restrictions due to the upturn in positive cases of COVID-19, directly related to a sudden opening of activities.

Medina maintained that a balance must be maintained between the opening and closing protocols, in order to guarantee, based on epidemiological data, a full opening of successful economic and recreational activities.

Global context

Despite the rejection of the extension maintained by the opposition parties , the president indicated thatthe average of the State of Emergency periodsin Europe and Latin America are 87 and 112 days, respectively, placing the Dominican Republic under both means, since he's 80.

Similarly, he highlighted that the Dominican Republic is the second nation in the world with the shortest approved term of State of Emergency, which has resulted in us being one of the countries with the most requests for extensions.

 

[windeguy]

Will another extension of the SOE delay opening the DR in July sometime?

The current requested extension would not go into July. If the number of days is shortened or not approved it would end between June 14 to sometime near the end of June. The people who decide about the approval on this point are the Chamber of Deputies. We have to wait a few days to see what happens.

No amount of government delays is going to stop CV19, it is here to stay.

 

[Brendan Hubley]

Maybe because residency requieres to be in RD at least 180 days a year? 90% of the foreigners I know with properties are in RD maximum one month a year and none has a residency. None of them has the desire to come right now to RD anyway.

Reading here you cant enter RD even with residency - different to most other countries rules - is not motivating anyone to get one...

Many places, including my province, have a "substantial connection" test to determine whether you can enter. It requires an application that is easily done online. Real Property would get you in. I have to keep my 180 days a year in Canada to keep the free medical etc.

 

[windeguy]

I have never heard of anyone one with DR residency being denied reentry to the country because they were out of the DR for an extended period of time. Even people that did not renew residency for many years just paid the fees and fines for not renewing on time to become current residents again.

As for DR legal residents being denied reentry to the DR during the State of Emergency, that just ain't right.

 

[aarhus]

I have never heard of anyone one with DR residency being denied reentry to the country because they were out of the DR for an extended period of time. Even people that did not renew residency for many years just paid the fees and fines for not renewing on time to become current residents again.

As for DR legal residents being denied reentry to the DR during the State of Emergency, that just ain't right.

I agree and strange we can’t get it clarified. I had other expectations about the legal forum.

 

[windeguy]

As for why the DR didn't go to the Senate and Chamber of Deputies to pass new laws regarding CV19 instead of the repetitive repeating loop of asking for SOE extensions by the President it could be that both houses would never agree on a solution because they are both not controlled by the same political party. Checks and balances would have blocked such laws, so we have the SOE method which will end either really soon, or a bit later.

 

[Onions/Carrots]

I know Dominicans within the US of A, and RD that tell me that what they are experiencing, and images they are seeing over the last two weeks remind them of Haiti. I am one of them.
You do not get more Dominican than them or I, and you do not get more 3rd world than Haiti.

Good! You can stay in that Island Paradise and the rest of us will have to brave out here in America. A 3rd world country as you put it.

I guess you'll have to look for other markets to support your decimated tourism sector. We here have descended into chaos.

Lest I forget. I'll let all the Haitians know how 1st world you guys are. They can empty out Haiti and join you in Paradise.

 

[Astucia]

Many places, including my province, have a "substantial connection" test to determine whether you can enter. It requires an application that is easily done online. Real Property would get you in. I have to keep my 180 days a year in Canada to keep the free medical etc.

What province ? Link please