Encuentro Beach Shacks Bulldozed today in Cabarete

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For those who are interested in this topic, you can join this Facebook page and see the details:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/PlayaEncuentro/

Hi Windeguy,

Kind of useless to discuss this here... A guy stating he lived here 15 years and does not see the importance for Cabarete community to keep Encuentro open, and yeah La Boca also. Living here 15 years and does not understand that. I guess the guy is sitting in a bar having a breakfast beer.
 

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Hi Windeguy,

Kind of useless to discuss this here... A guy stating he lived here 15 years and does not see the importance for Cabarete community to keep Encuentro open, and yeah La Boca also. Living here 15 years and does not understand that. I guess the guy is sitting in a bar having a breakfast beer.

I do concur with your analysis above. It is all too obvious there are those that simply don't care what happens there based upon the rule of law.

Encuentro is a very valuable resource and remains in jeopardy because of corruption. From what I can see, that court order to re-open the road still has not been implemented.
 

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Thanks for the clarification. I never knew that there was a different entrance that had been closed off. Well whatever the current access is, private or public.. It is open for anyone to drive down and enjoy the beach. Also, let me paint the correct picture. It is not a few greasy pony tail surfers smoking weed on the beach. The beach is actually being used quite actively by the surf schools and I see tons of kids out learning how to ride on a daily basis. There are more tourist families down there in the mornings than locals. Also keep in mind that these families are renting villas, hotel rooms and spending money in Cab and Sosua. It's a great beach and I hope they do the right thing and protect it.

El Rey - fighting plastic straws, littering and protecting free access to the ocean isn't a "GRINGO" thing. It's a planet thing.

It is not open to anyone anymore...some people are not allowed in since the entrance is on private property. Read my earlier post:

"The entrance is now on private property. The public access is closed (camino viejo) Already some people (the one fighting the owners of the property, Calpe, that closed the public access) are denied entry. What do you think will happen with that entrance on private propert after they have built residences/hotels on the property? Boom. Closed to all except guests/owners. Just like Kite Beach and many other beaches on the island.

And yes they have no respect for the rule of the 60 meter to the ocean."
 
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Hi Windeguy,

Kind of useless to discuss this here... A guy stating he lived here 15 years and does not see the importance for Cabarete community to keep Encuentro open, and yeah La Boca also. Living here 15 years and does not understand that. I guess the guy is sitting in a bar having a breakfast beer.

HDR, you are more than welcome to reply directly. Until your last post, all replies and discussion did not contain stabs or insults - just opinions and none were directed at poster or myself.

I do not agree with foreigners sticking their noses in the legal affairs of the Dominicans. Whether directly or indirectly. That's all sir.
 

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HDR, you are more than welcome to reply directly. Until your last post, all replies and discussion did not contain stabs or insults - just opinions and none were directed at poster or myself.

I do not agree with foreigners sticking their noses in the legal affairs of the Dominicans. Whether directly or indirectly. That's all sir.

Well that is what the owner´s of the property do!! Foreigners... Despite several courts telling them to open the camino viejo it is still closed, occupying land closer than 60 meters to the beach. And yes the main force against these foreigners doing all this are the Dominican community with some support from some long term residents of Cabarete. Well I am out of here. Enjoy your beer Sir, no offense :cheeky:
 

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HDR, you are more than welcome to reply directly. Until your last post, all replies and discussion did not contain stabs or insults - just opinions and none were directed at poster or myself.

I do not agree with foreigners sticking their noses in the legal affairs of the Dominicans. Whether directly or indirectly. That's all sir.

Then how do you feel about foreigners illegally closing roads and occupying public right of way land in the DR?
 

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HDR, you are more than welcome to reply directly. Until your last post, all replies and discussion did not contain stabs or insults - just opinions and none were directed at poster or myself.

I do not agree with foreigners sticking their noses in the legal affairs of the Dominicans. Whether directly or indirectly. That's all sir.

Then how do you feel about foreigners illegally closing roads and occupying public right of way land in the DR?

exactly the same.

But foreigners have "stuck their noses" in by closing the access road and violating the 60 meter public access laws.

That action should be met by the rule of law, the problem is the courts produce an order to re-open the access and that order is defied.

That is an unacceptable situation and why this thread and situation will continue unless and until it is resolved.
 
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But foreigners have "stuck their noses" in by closing the access road and violating the 60 meter public access laws.

That action should be met by the rule of law, the problem is the courts produce an order to re-open the access and that order is defied.

That is an unacceptable situation and why this thread and situation will continue unless and until it is resolved.

ok, I'm sure it will.
 

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I disagree Stock. At this point, it would be interesting to audit the financials on this. Who's got what stake in it and the associated motivation factors. Clearly it's not about some surfing and a fish shack.

The money is from two foreign companies trying to take over the beach by violating the laws. The surfers just want the access road re-opened.
 

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It is not practical that you would think all residents of Cabarete are aligned with your position on this matter. I am one one of those that are not. "I" feel that if the gringo shadow-sponsors were not "funding" this save-the-whales-style struggle, the Dominicans would not have ventured in.

You really appear to have no idea what this is about. And I mean no idea.

The Dominicans with a stake in this are the ones that either teach surfing or like to surf. The gringos who like to surf are aligned with those Dominicans and show up at the protests of the road closure and violations of the building codes. The money is from the foreign companies that want the beach to be privatized. I would never assume all residents of any place are aligned with any position.
 

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100% correct, drstock. For those that don't care, they don't need to respond, but this is an issue for the surfers and will only get worse if the laws are not enforced.
Are they stopping people from using road ? There were security guards at beginning of rd entrance ..but we got threw in June on Atvs so did group walking ...
 

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What public road are you guys talking about? The only road in is a dirt road that runs between two pastures and an old condo project. There is one security guard sitting by an old rusted gate (frozen in the up position) who smiles and says hello every morning. The road is wide open every single day. I have never seen a single person refused entry. I would also note that the parking lot is well maintained and even has lighting which I assume was installed by the public utility. For those of you commenting from afar - have a look. https://www.facebook.com/sosuaone
 

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It must also be noted that a key Mueller witness, 60-year old George Nader, who was listed 100 times in the now phony Mueller Report, for providing evidence trying to establish a connection between Trump and the Russians, was indicted Monday for transportation of teen boys for sex.

That's a real group of winners they put together to try and get Trump, phony witnesses, sex perverts, companies who fake dossiers for money, wannabe undercover spies, complicit corrupt foreign officials and equally corrupt FBI agents. Toss crooked Hillary on the pile as the one who paid to kick this all off. She should never show her chipmunk cheeks in public again.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/24/george-nader-child-sex-grooming-pimping/

Maybe a moderator could redirect this post to the political thread?
 

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If the road down to the beach area where surfing is done is now open again for vehicular traffic and no one is ever blocked from using it, then there has been progress on this situation. There is however, no legal reason that a gate with a guard should be on that road.
 

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If the road down to the beach area where surfing is done is now open again for vehicular traffic and no one is ever blocked from using it, then there has been progress on this situation. There is however, no legal reason that a gate with a guard should be on that road.
That was my feeling why post guard when people where coming and going at will...unless scare tactic to intimidate with a presence