Bartolo Col?n

ExtremeR

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Wanna bet Colon used steroids to accelerate/enhance the healing process for his shoulder?

I'm leaning more towards gaining strength in his legs, that's a heavy frame he has to move forward when pitching several innings... although it definitely helped the shoulder muscles...
 

rice&beans

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Wanna bet Colon used steroids to accelerate/enhance the healing process for his shoulder?


I actually have no problem with that,

Pay for the masking, do it right....

My problem with him is accountability, and responsibility, a lotta fans, and most important his teammates were depending on him. It's one thing to mess with yourself, and make bad decisions....fine, it's your bod, and your conscience,

But don't S--T where you eat, because it's insulting......
 
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Lucifer

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I'm leaning more towards gaining strength in his legs, that's a heavy frame he has to move forward when pitching several innings... although it definitely helped the shoulder muscles...

Good guess, mi pana ExtremeR. And I've always wondered if Nolan Ryan also used it for leg strength.

By the way, had I known that Col?n's actions would've caused some posters to cast ALL Dominicans as losers, I would've never posted the thread.
 

rice&beans

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Good guess, mi pana ExtremeR. And I've always wondered if Nolan Ryan also used it for leg strength.

By the way, had I known that Col?n's actions would've caused some posters to cast ALL Dominicans as losers, I would've never posted the thread.


Hey, I call it like I see it,

I never said ALL DOMINICANS are LOOOOOOSERS,

MOST, NOT ALL





Relax, I'm JOKING, grow a sense of humor.....

YOU (fill in blank)
 

rice&beans

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OMG,

BREAKING NEWS, they just found Bartolo Colons IPod in his old locker, buried under some old syringes....

But apparently it only had one song, puzzling at first, but once they listened to the song, it all made sense......


<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/5r0HTV7WkQk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
 

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OMG,

BREAKING NEWS, they just found Bartolo Colons IPod in his old locker, buried under some old syringes....

But apparently it only had one song, puzzling at first, but once they listened to the song, it all made sense......


<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/5r0HTV7WkQk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/r142nGnONl8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>.........................
 

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<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Tk75Dehq2kY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>................................
 

ExtremeR

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Nope, just the occasional demeaning comment towards Dominicans frequently heard on this forum.

I wonder what R&B thinks about the Lance Armstrong situation. Would you care to enlighten us on this?

Don't pay attention to that bro, I won't give them any importance by replying to their denigrating posts, is not worth my time or my attention ;)

I sometimes wonder if that inexplicable hate originate from a lost love to a Dominican guy...
 

rice&beans

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Nope, just the occasional demeaning comment towards Dominicans frequently heard on this forum.

I wonder what R&B thinks about the Lance Armstrong situation. Would you care to enlighten us on this?




I do agree with you, Lance Armstrong is also a LOOOOOOOOOSER.......


Also, this is a Dominican Forum, last time I checked,

Is this a Dominican thing? when all else fails, or feelings get hurt.....

Change subject, and throw someone else under the bus......(Lance Armstrong)
 
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Taino808

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I do agree with you, Lance Armstrong is also a LOOOOOOOOOSER.......


Also, this is a Dominican Forum, last time I checked,

Is this a Dominican thing? when all else fails, or feelings get hurt.....

Change subject, and throw someone else under the bus......(Lance Armstrong)



Nope.....on the contrary, you opened yourself up for that question the minute you made the statement that "Most Dominican are looosers" for using steroids. I figured what's good for the goose, is good for the gander.
 

rice&beans

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Don't pay attention to that bro, I won't give them any importance by replying to their denigrating posts, is not worth my time or my attention ;)

I sometimes wonder if that inexplicable hate originate from a lost love to a Dominican guy...


Why are you so sensitive about insensitive comments?

You want some cheese with that Whine?

Dominicans aren't perfect, they are flawed....JUST LIKE AMERICANS, (feel better)

Get your head outta the clouds dude, you sound like a weak little girl.......man up.....

It has nothing to do with Dominican...American

Accept it Bartolo Colon F--KED UP.....

When an American F--KS up, I accept it, and I'll broadcast it to the world,

BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A DOMINICAN FORUM BOY GENIUS,

And as far as "lost love to a Dominican guy", you should talk, I've seen your photo bro,

You aint the most masculine looking guy on the block........



<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/51418611@N05/7852681452/" title="oam-daryl-stephens_sm by bocachica64, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8439/7852681452_561f0d6540.jpg" width="386" height="500" alt="oam-daryl-stephens_sm"></a>


Anyway, have a great day ExtremeR,

I really enjoy the conversations that we have.....very productive........
 

rice&beans

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Nope.....on the contrary, you opened yourself up for that question the minute you made the statement that "Most Dominican are looosers" for using steroids. I figured what's good for the goose, is good for the gander.

Whatever,

I don't know how many times I've said on this forum I love the Dominican Republic, AND THE PEOPLE......

Reread the post....(#44) it's FUNNY FRIDAY, God forbid, I can't say that....get real, typical....

So Dominicans are above reproach?

Gimme a break,

Get over yourself....

Save it for that other idiot, ExtremeR

Maybe you'll get him to agree with you.....
 
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Taino808

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Whatever,

I don't know how many times I've said on this forum I love the Dominican Republic, AND THE PEOPLE......

Reread the post, it's FUNNY FRIDAY, God forbid, I can't say that....get real, typical....

So Dominicans are above reproach?

Gimme a break,

Get over yourself....

Save it for that other idiot, ExtremeR

Maybe you'll get him to agree with you.....


Can't get over myself, because I've never been full of myself, unlike others on this board; won't name any names though.
 

Lucifer

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Don't pay attention to that bro, I won't give them any importance by replying to their denigrating posts, is not worth my time or my attention ;)

I sometimes wonder if that inexplicable hate originate from a lost love to a Dominican guy...

That's exactly what I was thinking. And, as usual, rice&beans will have the last word, and with the backing of non-Dominican moderators.
 

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That's exactly what I was thinking. And, as usual, rice&beans will have the last word, and with the backing of non-Dominican moderators.

Hating? No one is special here, especially Red Sock fans!!!! jejejejeje

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Wanna bet Colon used steroids to accelerate/enhance the healing process for his shoulder?

Absolutely. If anyone looks up articles written about Bartolo Col?n's Dominican trainer Angle Presinal, he has a reputation as an expert on helping players recover from injuries. His methods are a well-guarded secret and his customers speak of him in reverential tones.

Whenever a trainer comes recommended with the mythical "guru" tag, rest assured there is something else going on. Herein lies the issue-the United States has some of the most advanced sports medicine procedures in the world, but some obscure Dominican trainer in Santo Domingo with no formal medical training is somehow a savant in this particular field, yet no one can or will explain exactly what he does or how he does it.


Presinal's past makes MLB wary about his present - MLB - ESPN


Presinal has been banned by MLB for suspected steroid trafficking, charges that stem back to 2001 and Presinal's affiliation with then-slugger Juan Gonzalez, but they cannot keep players from soliciting his services while in the DR.

I wonder what R&B thinks about the Lance Armstrong situation. Would you care to enlighten us on this?

As for Lance Armstrong, this may go down as the absolute biggest individual doping fraud in modern-day sport. But as of right now hardly any of the evidence against him has been made public. One thing we do know is his relationship with disgraced Italian doping doctor Michele Ferrari, who is bar none the most renown doping doctor and trainer in professional cycling. This is what R&B was referring to-the importance of masking a PED regimen.

In 2006, a year after he first retired form the sport, documents reveal payments to Ferrari from Armstrong totaling $465,000 dollars. That is the type of money that buys one not only the expertise needed to elude drug tests, but also client exclusivity. One of the stipulations of their professional relationship was a binding non-compete clause during the Tours Armstrong won. Ferrari was not allowed to work with any other Tour rider while on Armstrong's payroll.

The ability to disguise a PED program is just as crucial as the program itself, which is why doctors like Ferrari were so handsomely paid by his clients. This type of expertise costs MONEY, money that maybe some Dominican players don't feel like paying, which is probably why they have tested positive more often than any other nationality in MLB.
 
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rice&beans

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Absolutely. If anyone looks up articles written about Bartolo Col?n's Dominican trainer Angle Presinal, he has a reputation as an expert on helping players recover from injuries. His methods are a well-guarded secret and his customers speak of him in reverential tones.

Whenever a trainer comes recommended with the mythical "guru" tag, rest assured there is something else going on. Herein lies the issue-the United States has some of the most advanced sports medicine procedures in the world, but some obscure Dominican trainer in Santo Domingo with no formal medical training is somehow a savant in this particular field, yet no one can or will explain exactly what he does or how he does it.


Presinal's past makes MLB wary about his present - MLB - ESPN


Presinal has been banned by MLB for suspected steroid trafficking, charges that stem back to 2001 and Presinal's affiliation with then-slugger Juan Gonzalez, but they cannot keep players from soliciting his services while in the DR.



As for Lance Armstrong, this may go down as the absolute biggest individual doping fraud in modern-day sport. But as of right now hardly any of the evidence against him has been made public. One thing we do know is his relationship with disgraced Italian doping doctor Michele Ferrari, who is bar none the most renown doping doctor and trainer in professional cycling. This is what R&B was referring to-the importance of masking a PED regimen.

In 2006, a year after he first retired form the sport, documents reveal payments to Ferrari from Armstrong totaling $465,000 dollars. That is the type of money that buys one not only the expertise needed to elude drug tests, but also client exclusivity. One of the stipulations of their professional relationship was a binding non-compete clause during the Tours Armstrong won. Ferrari was not allowed to work with any other Tour rider while on Armstrong's payroll.

The ability to disguise a PED program is just as crucial as the program itself, which is why doctors like Ferrari were so handsomely paid by his clients. This type of expertise costs MONEY, money that maybe some Dominican players don't feel like paying, which is probably why they have tested positive more often than any other nationality in MLB
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Exactly,

This is what I'm talking about......