Haiti Seeks Reparations From France.

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windeguy

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Canadian Forces personnel have finished training police forces from Belize, the Bahamas, and Jamaica. The training was done in Jamaica and included first aid in combat zones, peace keeping duties, etc. The multinational police forces are ready to deploy to Haiti but everything is on hold until the Kenyans arrive on Haitian soil. The UN still continues to fiddle while Haiti burns. When and if the Kenyans arrive is anybody’s guess. Maybe the UN is hoping if they continue to ignore Haiti, the internal problems will resolve themselves.
When the Kenyans arrive:: For $500 million USD? Answer: Never. I thought that was already decided.

So I guess no mercenaries will be going at all .
 

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When the Kenyans arrive:: For $500 million USD? Answer: Never. I thought that was already decided.

So I guess no mercenaries will be going at all .
Benin also wants to get on board with the MSS (Multinational Security Support) mision:

"Benin announced plans to contribute at least 1,500 personnel—a significant addition to the 1,000 policers officers that Kenya has pledged, and the smaller contributions announced by several Caribbean countries. Following Henry’s stated intention to resign, however, Kenya temporarily put on hold preparations for the deployment of the mission pending the appointment of a new Haitian government. Kenyan officials have also cited a lack of available funding for the mission as another impediment to deployment, as promised contributions from the US—the mission’s main financial backer—have been held up in the US Congress."
 

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Benin also wants to get on board with the MSS (Multinational Security Support) mision:

"Benin announced plans to contribute at least 1,500 personnel—a significant addition to the 1,000 policers officers that Kenya has pledged, and the smaller contributions announced by several Caribbean countries. Following Henry’s stated intention to resign, however, Kenya temporarily put on hold preparations for the deployment of the mission pending the appointment of a new Haitian government. Kenyan officials have also cited a lack of available funding for the mission as another impediment to deployment, as promised contributions from the US—the mission’s main financial backer—have been held up in the US Congress."
As I mentioned, I don't think my homeland is going to pony up 500 million USD for a thousand Kenyan mercenaries, and that is what all the other troops/cops/mercs from other countries are based upon happening first.. So it is just words on a page for all of them to feel good about and nobody will be sent. Then they can blame it on the USA and of course France, Bill Clinton, etc..
 

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You can always ask. And some liberals will support such a sins of the father plan. They won't be getting it.
Demanding reparations while your country is in crash and burn mode has no credibility. They have the same chance as the Jamaicans have getting reparation money from King Charles, a snow ball‘s chance in hell. If he opened his wallet, a lot of other countries would come knocking on his castle door.

Maybe the Haitian motivation is due to awareness of the billions being spent on Aboriginal reparations in Canada and the potential millions of dollars of reparations in Massachusetts for some black communities. I guess if you’re going to grasp at straws, they should be financially rewarding ones.
 
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Not about slavery.

Not about slavery.

"France should repay billions of dollars in reparations to Haiti to cover a debt formerly enslaved people were forced to pay in return for recognizing the island's independence".
Haitians want their money back plus 200 years of interest. LMFAO
People just read and fail to comprehend what is actually being said.

Perhaps some of the folks who made a few of the above comments may think that the Jews who lost everything to the Nazi folk shouldn't have been compensated either.

Slavery is one thing... Outright blackmail and fraud are another.

But honestly... Everything in this world is in such chaos, who really knows what is up and what is down?
 
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Demanding reparations while your country is in crash and burn mode has no credibility. They have the same chance as the Jamaicans have getting reparation money from King Charles, a snow ball‘s chance in hell. If he opened his wallet, a lot of other countries would come knocking on his castle door.

Maybe the Haitian motivation is due to awareness of the billions being spent on Aboriginal reparations in Canada and the potential millions of dollars of reparations in Massachusetts for some black communities. I guess if you’re going to grasp at straws, they should be financially rewarding ones.
It doesn't cost anything to open up another can of worms.
 

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My relatives were deported from Scotland to the US for sheep stealing.
I want reparations from Scotland for ripping my ancestors out of my homeland. I never got to enjoy Haggis.
 
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Highly unlikely they will get reparations in the amount they wish, and hopefully they will get nothing. We are not responsible for the sins of our ancestors. One of 12th great-grandfathers was involved in the British Transatlantic Slave trade. One of his daughters married a shipwright and they immigrated to the colonies, Boston to be exact and never owned any slaves. His daughter and the shipwrights are my 11th GG parents and I am related through my mother's side. None of those capitalized for her father being a slaver. She inherited nothing, as she had older brothers that got everything. Slavery was an awful thing and reparations to people that were actually slaves is justified. To their ancestors, nope.
Well between 1822 and 1844 while we was occupied by Haiti the made us pay to France too, so the refund for that period they should check how much we was forced to pay and write a check under Dominican Republic name.
 

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Reparations are great for political theater, but where's the $ going to come from? It ain't happening.
"The U.S. and its allies immediately froze $300 billion in Russian foreign holdings at the start of Moscow's invasion of Ukraine. That money has been sitting untapped — most of it in European Union nations — as the war grinds on. But roughly $5 billion of it is located in the U.S."

He who carries the big stick makes the rules.

On another note... At the moment, France is up the proverbial creek without a paddle... And hating its immigrant problem.

Funny how karma works.
 
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Well between 1822 and 1844 while we was occupied by Haiti the made us pay to France too, so the refund for that period they should check how much we was forced to pay and write a check under Dominican Republic name.
They attempted, but Dominicans refused to pay that tax on the basis that the debt was between Frenchmen and their slaves. This wasn’t pointed out, but quickly glancing the agreement in French between France and Haiti, it specifically says the inhabitants of the French part of the island and it encompassed a special treatment to French boats in the French part of the island. Nothing is said about the rest of the island or even of the Dominicans.

It should be remembered that France had returned the Spanish part (now DR) to Spain through the Treaty of Paris of 1814.

Also, the agreement between France and Haiti was in 1825 and France wouldn’t recognize Haiti until the debt is paid. That means in France’s eyes (really the whole world since no one recognized Haiti until France did) Haiti was nothing more than the French colony of Saint-Domingue in a rebellious state. That also meant that the Haitian Domination of the Dominicans was also not recognized. As far as France was concerned the island was still politically split in 2 (it never became one in anything else, Dominicans intentionally never learn French and much less Creole along with customs and traditions which were very different from those of the Haitians.) Hence when it mentions the French part, it’s very clear what it’s meant.

No country could officially do business and trade with a country that isn’t recognized, which again was the whole world. In a way similar to the current case with Taiwan (most countries have adopted the policy of one China) with the exception that Taiwan has the backing of the USA. With Haiti, it had the backing from no one. That was an additional complaint among Dominican merchants since trade came to a standstill with the invasion of Boyer. Other than contraband, Dominicans couldn’t trade with anyone since they were under the unrecognized Haitian flag.
 

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They attempted, but Dominicans refused to pay that tax on the basis that the debt was between Frenchmen and their slaves. This wasn’t pointed out, but quickly glancing the agreement in French between France and Haiti, it specifically says the inhabitants of the French part of the island and it encompassed a special treatment to French boats in the French part of the island. Nothing is said about the rest of the island or even of the Dominicans.

It should be remembered that France had returned the Spanish part (now DR) to Spain through the Treaty of Paris of 1814.

Also, the agreement between France and Haiti was in 1825 and France wouldn’t recognize Haiti until the debt is paid. That means in France’s eyes (really the whole world since no one recognized Haiti until France did) Haiti was nothing more than the French colony of Saint-Domingue in a rebellious state. That also meant that the Haitian Domination of the Dominicans was also not recognized. As far as France was concerned the island was still politically split in 2 (it never became one in anything else, Dominicans intentionally never learn French and much less Creole along with customs and traditions which were very different from those of the Haitians.) Hence when it mentions the French part, it’s very clear what it’s meant.

No country could officially do business and trade with a country that isn’t recognized, which again was the whole world. In a way similar to the current case with Taiwan (most countries have adopted the policy of one China) with the exception that Taiwan has the backing of the USA. With Haiti, it had the backing from no one. That was an additional complaint among Dominican merchants since trade came to a standstill with the invasion of Boyer. Other than contraband, Dominicans couldn’t trade with anyone since they were under the unrecognized Haitian flag.
Do you really Believe that this side didnt pay? maybe you dont know we was appressed by Haitians in 22 years? there was not a nice agreement like French Canadians and British Canadians. Maybe in papers only tell that but in reality do you think that the taxes from this side they said put it appart because the agreement doesn't say they don't have to pay when they own all the island.
 

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when Haiti obtains a civilized governing body maybe then talk about "handouts" can resume. Until then giving them monies is the equivalent of "making it rain" at the strip club on the Malecon.
 

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No country could officially do business and trade with a country that isn’t recognized, which again was the whole world. In a way similar to the current case with Taiwan (most countries have adopted the policy of one China) with the exception that Taiwan has the backing of the USA. With Haiti, it had the backing from no one. That was an additional complaint among Dominican merchants since trade came to a standstill with the invasion of Boyer. Other than contraband, Dominicans couldn’t trade with anyone since they were under the unrecognized Haitian flag.
Well written, NALs...

What an exposing of the corrupt disposition of world governments — which, at the time is really defined by the small group of colonial powers — the first "...New World..." nation to throw off the bondage of colonialism and the slaver inherent within it... And the "...world..." turned its back on it.

And not just turned its back on it... But attacked it by instituting an economic blockade against it... America was among the lead of this blockade.

"The concept of slaves overthrowing their French masters and ruling themselves in a nation was not only threatening, it was unthinkable, “ a revolution by Blacks definitely was something that could not be” (Reinhardt 250)."

If one looks closely at world politics today... The above racist disposition can be seen to be still lingering/voiced toward non-colonial lead (read, independent) African nations.
 

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I guess this thread was posted before the NPF commies took over France. This is most likely the end of the old guard. Getting money from a communist govt good luck. Better chances waiting for the return of JC
 

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when Haiti obtains a civilized governing body maybe then talk about "handouts" can resume. Until then giving them monies is the equivalent of "making it rain" at the strip club on the Malecon.
Says an equally uncivilized person perhaps?

Or maybe you think of yourself as being above others?
 
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