La Romana...filthy..so sad

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Saying that La Romana was started by Central Romana is akin to saying Rainieri discovered Punta Cana--DR1ers' favorite tall tale, but wrong on both, and it reminds me of that old trick question: Before Mount Everest was discovered, what was the tallest mountain in the world?
 

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There are NO 5 star luxury hotels in PC or anywhere in this country. Dominicans have not a clue as to what 5 star luxury hotel
is. Four Seasons and Ritz Carlton hotels fled, ran away screaming from this country after they had indicated possibility of
opening a Four Seasons Casa de Campo and a Ritz Carlton Cap Cana. Dominicans are unable and unwilling to work in the way
real luxury hotels must operate..with discipline and true work ethic. I really laugh when I hear from dominicans there are any
luxury hotels in this country. There are not. Most hotels here are really quite pathetic. But if dominicans continue to delude
themselves (as they do) so be it.

the stars to AI hotels/resorts are not given by dominicans,
they are given by the managing operators/sellers.
and as opposed to the star rating for "regular" hotels of all levels in other countries,
the star rating of those AI properties has less to do with the service level provided,
but much more with the number of specific amenities available for the guests of such property,
like Golf Course, number of a la carte restaurants, casino, number of pools, waterpark, tennis courts, number of bars, grill etc etc.
it tells less about the quality of such resort's restaurants/bars, more about the availability of such, partly about the number of such things available.
none of any of the AI resorts/hotels i visited here would reach more than a decent 3 star rating if rated in the USA or Europe under the criterias required there to get a star or 2 or 3 ...
the restaurants would rank far below such. not that they are any bad, specially considering the ultra low money paid "per meal" at a AI a la carte, but they are worlds below a star restaurant to receive the 1st gourmet star, not to speak from higher star rankings.
the AI star rating can on no point be compared to the hotel and restaurant star ratings elsewhere,
it is 2 very different worlds, and they are not even in any competition with each others, different products.

Mike
 
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The take away from the thread is that garbage waxes and wanes depending in part on local infrastructure and awareness campaigns. How it devolved into a argument about 5 star resorts and tourism is kind of par for the course around here..

Five years from now, there may well be a thread about how trashed Higuey is compare to La Romana...
 

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The take away from the thread is that garbage waxes and wanes depending in part on local infrastructure and awareness campaigns. How it devolved into a argument about 5 star resorts and tourism is kind of par for the course around here..

Five years from now, there may well be a thread about how trashed Higuey is compare to La Romana...
even bettering a little in specific sectors,
Higuey does not need 5 years for such topic,
as it still is very far away from becoming a near clean city.
and right,
such is less about willingness of a communal ruling to collet the trash away, the prime problem is the full leaking on education about trash.
as long as the population does throw the trash to any location where a product is finished to be consumed,
so long cleaning away keeps a spot clean only til the next person finishes the pollo frito lunch in a styropor container or a drink in a plastic cup to be left on the floor at the same spot.
the most digusting place there is at the lower end of the market, all that fouly and extremely stinky stuff lies out there at the corner all day long, completely open, not in any containers or trashcans, and quiet often they do not even finish to carry all away the same late afternoon, so it smells heaviliest when driving by in the morning.
hence Higuey is here locally still named
Safaco City

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On a positive note street dogs depend on the leftover food that gets tossed in styrofoam containers.

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The take away from the thread is that garbage waxes and wanes depending in part on local infrastructure and awareness campaigns. How it devolved into a argument about 5 star resorts and tourism is kind of par for the course around here..

Five years from now, there may well be a thread about how trashed Higuey is compare to La Romana...

The solution requires attack from many angles - enforcement both locally and countrywide, public campaign, from all level of government. Education of both public and school children. Then the tools - garbage collection and accessible containers for the public. There are regular clean-ups of the barrios by volunteers, like the Lions club, but the majority of the people don't understand the significant environmental damage they are causing, nor does the sight physically bother them. I've talked with many Dominicans about this, especially those that have travelled to first world countries and they admit it's a huge problem. People will get involved if they can see a benefit.
 

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Its pretty much the same in Cuba and Mexico. They seem to clean in spurts. Probably gets cleaned really good when a higher up politician with free jeepetas comes to visit.
Wow, Cubans in Cuba actually throwing away stuff. With the shortage of everything (they blame it on the embargo while Miami Cubans blame it on communism, reality is somewhere inbetween the two) its quite logical to think that in the past 50 or so years Cubans would had become the planet's foremost experts on recicling even the stuff that is not reciclable.
 

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Saying that La Romana was started by Central Romana is akin to saying Rainieri discovered Punta Cana--DR1ers' favorite tall tale, but wrong on both, and it reminds me of that old trick question: Before Mount Everest was discovered, what was the tallest mountain in the world?
CR was established in LR circa 1910/1915-ish. Check this 1920 article of the new and rising town of La Romana. If can't see the full article, right click and then click on 'open in new tab' and it should be visible. The right column is in English, the left one in Spanish.

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So in a way, CR built LR. No way around it.
 
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tourism in la romana is today's bigger than ever, and still rising.
the sugar cane mafia is not a lil bit less than it was the last decades,
so none of your factors would be near a reason, they would proof the opposite.
do you live in La Romana since a lengthy time to comepare?
i assume you live somewhere near to observe such, instead of guessing something together??

Mike

My statement stands - La Romana became what it was once due to Central Romana. You'll be surprised to know as far as my time and knowledge of the entire region, nevertheless the interest that drove me to gain it.
 
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Is very easy to do actually, go back to my replies, once you find the one you're alluding to, click on "reply with quote." My writing will be there displaying in black and white what you claim I said.

Even you could manage to do that.

oh, i will. now you promise that you will listen to information coming from a person who knows more about the realities of tourism in Higuey and La Romana than you ever will.

lol...go on lecture me. Again, you will be surprised. Your knowledge will be shut down word by word, facts after fact. That is a challenge, in the event you didn't get it. Pretending and knowing are opposite things.

Go on, this is your chance; I'm actually placing myself on your turf since you've claimed to "know more about the realities of tourism in Higuey and La Romana than I ever will."

Do it, please.
 
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Is very easy to do actually, go back to my replies, once you find the one you're alluding to, click on "reply with quote." My writing will be there displaying in black and white what you claim I said.

Even you could manage to do that.

actually, this is exactly what you said



La Romana local goverment was supported by Central Romana back then. Most of the tourism was moved further east to Higuey and with it was the money.

if you feel like splitting hairs, knock yourself out. when you are done, you can explain casual tourism to us.
 
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Don't go on the side just yet. Please lecture me and take on the challenge, it should be very easy since you know more than I ever will.

ps: I don't want to make this about you and I, but since what you claimed is in black and white and right up there with the OP, it'll be rather interesting and helpful to use the stage to school me and maybe others, while at the same time staying on topic.
 
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