Should one apply for and be granted DR citizenship, would that then mean one would forfit the support of their natural Government/Consul should the need arise?
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From what I have understood yes, at least from the US government. There was some discussion about this before.
It depends on your nationality, Brits for example loose their privileges. Germans even loose their nationality, dual citizenship is not allowed except for very special circumstances.
And if you are a European retiree like me, have a solid some thousands of dollars in pention every month? Already have an property down here. I have zero dept. Zero criminal history and married with a domincan wife for many years- we have one child together.
We are the ones who pay the electricity bill every month. Are they going to lock the door for us? I would like to have an easy understandable answer on this one- not a guess please.
If someone have an answer that is of cource. Maybe Se?or Picardo can answer- do you have some good news for people like me who leave alot of money in the local industry every month?
We are the ones who pay the electricity bill every month. Are they going to lock the door for us? I would like to have an easy understandable answer on this one- not a guess please.
If someone have an answer that is of cource. Maybe Se?or Picardo can answer- do you have some good news for people like me who leave alot of money in the local industry every month?
Agreed, there should be an easier way for people like you. Other countries have very simple procedures in place for people who just want to live and spend their money in a country and don't work, a residency without work permit for example.
PICHARDO, when you have the details on what you mean by "restrictive", please post them even if you only have the general ideas on what is to be changed that would be useful information.
What is the government doing to coerce people from being legal residents into being naturalized citizens and why?
It certainly sounds like a very negative move by reducing what a legal resident can do versus a naturalized citizen.
So what does this mean? Do I just hold off getting even temp residency? Lawyer wants money before he continues and I've been putting it off until my wife comes back. I've read through whole posts but It really is hard to point out what is going to happen.
That whole "easier for entrepreneur" thing... Does it mean it's going to be easier and cheaper for those that are involved in medium sized business? I'll keep my eyes on this post for awhile...
That whole "easier for entrepreneur" thing... Does it mean it's going to be easier and cheaper for those that are involved in medium sized business? I'll keep my eyes on this post for awhile...
Unfortunately unless and until the truth is out we are just a bunch of mushrooms who are in the dark and have been fed a little manure.
Mr. P. is wrong once again, article 32 of the decree 631-11 ("new regulation") explicitly expresses that foreign residents have the same basic rights as Dominican nationals with certain exceptions provided by the constitution ( no political activities etc.).
mido, if I understand correctly what Pichardo has written, there is nothing yet published about the new and much more restrictive regulations against residents, so what you are quoting is not what he is talking about.
He is making this up!!! There is a "Plan for Regularization of Foreigners" in the works which will force every foreigner in the country to be some how "categorized" as either foreign national, temporary resident, permanent resident, foreigner with temporary work permit etc.. With other words everybody has to have some kind of legal status while here.
So, with all of this "bad" news coming here's my question - what will happen to those of us that have overstayed our tourist visa's? I don't really have a domicile in my home country any more. I rent an apartment here, have a car, have a steady income, etc.....and no real plans to return to the US. I have been considering (for a long time now) applying for residency but paperwork, etc....and my laziness has prevented me moving forward on that.
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Speculation
Speculation is not helpful.
One will have to see how new legislation is applied.
Please note Friday,June 15 DR News:
New residency permits at a standstill
Carmen Montas Cedeno and Patricia de la Rosa Fernandez, president and vice president of the Association of Specialist Immigration Lawyers asked the authorities yesterday to approve and implement a proposed plan to facilitate residency permit procedures for foreigners, as reported in El Dia.
From Guzman Law: Immigration
FOREIGN NATIONALS
Under Article 25 of the Dominican Constitution, while in the Dominican Republic, foreign nationals are afforded the same rights and subjected to the same duties as Dominican nationals, with one exception. A foreign national may not participate in political activities in the country except to vote in elections in the foreign national's country of origin.
NONRESIDENT STATUS
A nonresident foreign national requires permission to enter and stay in the country. Foreign nationals arriving from countries that are party to a dispensation treaty, generally developed countries, are permitted entry by a tourist card and do not need a visa. Tourist cards are purchased for a nominal amount at one of the country's international airports at the time of entry and before passing through customs. They are valid for three months. Foreign nationals who are not citizens of a country covered by such a treaty need to obtain a visa before traveling to the Dominican Republic.
A major difference between a tourist card and a visa is the consequence of expiration. When a tourist card expires, the foreign national is considered in "overstay" status. The foreign national need not leave the country, but exit taxes accrue at a rate of up to 1000 Dominican pesos per month and must be paid before departing from the country. The accrued tax can be paid at the Immigration Department anytime or at the airport before departure. There is no restriction on the number of times a foreign national present on a tourist card may exit and reenter. Upon reentry, however, the foreign national must purchase a new tourist card.
Eligibility Criteria
Property owners with rental income, investors, and retirees are eligible to apply for residency on an expedited basis if certain income requirements and other specific criteria are met.
Property Owner with Rental Income
a) Income may be derived from rental property anywhere in the world.
b) Income must be a minimum of US$2000 per month. An additional income of US$250 per month per minor in the immediate family and spouse accompanying the applicant must be added.
Investor Criteria
a) The investment must be US$200,000 or more.
b) The investment may be direct or indirect, for example, a real estate transaction, a deposit in a bank account, or an investment in a project in the Dominican Republic.
Retiree Criteria
a) Income must come from a public or private plan providing retirement income.
b) Income must be at least US$1,500 per month. An additional income of US$250 per month per minor in the immediate family and spouse accompanying the applicant must be added.
Spouse
A foreign national who legally marries a Dominican national may apply for citizenship after six months of marriage, no matter the location of the marriage. The foreign spouse must provide an authenticated and translated copy of the marriage certificate and the documents shown below under Residents, with some variations.
Guzman Ariza Law Firm in the Dominican Republic
Bottom line, contact someone who knows.
See how new legislaton is applied in the real world.
Speculation is not helpful.
One will have to see how new legislation is applied.
Please note Friday,June 15 DR News:
New residency permits at a standstill
Carmen Montas Cedeno and Patricia de la Rosa Fernandez, president and vice president of the Association of Specialist Immigration Lawyers asked the authorities yesterday to approve and implement a proposed plan to facilitate residency permit procedures for foreigners, as reported in El Dia.
From Guzman Law: Immigration
FOREIGN NATIONALS
Under Article 25 of the Dominican Constitution, while in the Dominican Republic, foreign nationals are afforded the same rights and subjected to the same duties as Dominican nationals, with one exception. A foreign national may not participate in political activities in the country except to vote in elections in the foreign national's country of origin.
NONRESIDENT STATUS
A nonresident foreign national requires permission to enter and stay in the country. Foreign nationals arriving from countries that are party to a dispensation treaty, generally developed countries, are permitted entry by a tourist card and do not need a visa. Tourist cards are purchased for a nominal amount at one of the country's international airports at the time of entry and before passing through customs. They are valid for three months. Foreign nationals who are not citizens of a country covered by such a treaty need to obtain a visa before traveling to the Dominican Republic.
A major difference between a tourist card and a visa is the consequence of expiration. When a tourist card expires, the foreign national is considered in "overstay" status. The foreign national need not leave the country, but exit taxes accrue at a rate of up to 1000 Dominican pesos per month and must be paid before departing from the country. The accrued tax can be paid at the Immigration Department anytime or at the airport before departure. There is no restriction on the number of times a foreign national present on a tourist card may exit and reenter. Upon reentry, however, the foreign national must purchase a new tourist card.
Eligibility Criteria
Property owners with rental income, investors, and retirees are eligible to apply for residency on an expedited basis if certain income requirements and other specific criteria are met.
Property Owner with Rental Income
a) Income may be derived from rental property anywhere in the world.
b) Income must be a minimum of US$2000 per month. An additional income of US$250 per month per minor in the immediate family and spouse accompanying the applicant must be added.
Investor Criteria
a) The investment must be US$200,000 or more.
b) The investment may be direct or indirect, for example, a real estate transaction, a deposit in a bank account, or an investment in a project in the Dominican Republic.
Retiree Criteria
a) Income must come from a public or private plan providing retirement income.
b) Income must be at least US$1,500 per month. An additional income of US$250 per month per minor in the immediate family and spouse accompanying the applicant must be added.
Spouse
A foreign national who legally marries a Dominican national may apply for citizenship after six months of marriage, no matter the location of the marriage. The foreign spouse must provide an authenticated and translated copy of the marriage certificate and the documents shown below under Residents, with some variations.
Guzman Ariza Law Firm in the Dominican Republic
Bottom line, contact someone who knows.
See how new legislaton is applied in the real world.
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