Texas Bill said:
I will be the first to agree that the "good ole USA" ain't got the "clean" hands we would like it to ave.
BUT--- after all is said and done, the "politicians" know that if they "don't do right" or if they're too greedy. they'll get their a**es voted out of office come next election.
And another thingy, the government jobs may be filled by a bunch of "get-alongs" (you should see the answer I got on an inquery I made to the IRS!!!), BUT, at least they took a test to get the job and scored higher than those who didn't get the job!! Unlike YOUR system of giving thej ob to your brother-in-law, your sister or uncle, or "friend".
All in all you have to admit we're not QUITE as corrupt as you are here in governmnt activities. We do have a watchdog---It's called the Government Accounting Office and these guys keep the politicians from running away with the treasury. You ain't got no such thingy HERE and you desperately NEED ONE!!!
And, ALL government contracts are putout on Public Bid and the LOW Bidder gets the contract! NO_ONE can start a project that hasn't been approved by and funded for by the Congress. That's the way the Budget works in the USA, unlike here.
And, you oughta know better than to argue against me, I'll eat your lunch when I'm right! And my summation is RIGHT!!
So There.
Wow, we still friends???
The pot shouldn't call the kettle black, pardner, it'll come home and sit in your lap!
Texas Bill
BTW, you ever hear of the "Peter Principle"--Everyone is promoted to the level of their incompetency. Many times those are the ones who administer the contracts you cited in your references. Not everyone is as smart as they think they are. Get the point??? We got problems too. We just take care of the oneswho show themselves to be poor representatives of the constituency. They better behave, or we'll kick them out and get someone else.
TB
OH, and another thingy---
If the USA does with the DR what it wants to, Why the H*** do you let us??? Don't have the intestinal fortitude to say simply NO!!
Let's face it NalOws, The DR Government doesn't KNOW HOW to govern to the BENEFIT of it's PEOPLE, and that's a FACT. Read your own POLITICAL HISTORY!! And quit blaming the shortcomings on others. That's BAD rationalization, at best...
First and foremost I must say that Texas Bill comments really struck a cord.
And I must at least vent.
I was raised in DR and came to US as a teenager; I have participated in both democratic systems. The most precious principal that I could admire from good citizens all around the globe is personal responsibility.
BUT--- after all is said and done, the "politicians" know that if they "don't do right" or if they're too greedy. they'll get their a**es voted out of office come next election
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Wow! Where do you live at? Maybe it is just my perspective but it seems the only difference is that US politicians are a lot smarter when it comes about stealing. I mean multiple investigations, indictments, arrest, and conspiracy charges against plenty of senate, congress and administration members are on the headlines today and that is just the ones you read about. The argument may be that at least they are getting investigated and I agree 100%. That the system is harder to crack would be saying the lesser of two evils and it starts to sound like a democratic election.
And another thingy, the government jobs may be filled by a bunch of "get-alongs" (you should see the answer I got on an inquery I made to the IRS!!!), BUT, at least they took a test to get the job and scored higher than those who didn't get the job!! Unlike YOUR system of giving thej ob to your brother-in-law, your sister or uncle, or "friend". All in all you have to admit we're not QUITE as corrupt as you are here in governmnt activities
Haaaa! I guess Dominicans have a more family oriented culture, what can I say. I mean something like 90%of Us senators get reelected I guess they are doing it right, the economy is growing steadily, gas prices are down, and the sales for the holiday season are expected to be higher than last year. Opps, I forgot, it was the senators who gave the president the authority to wage war and as a consequence 190,000 troops will have to spend their holiday season worrying about something else. I have to stop right there because that may be too much.
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We do have a watchdog---It's called the Government Accounting Office and these guys keep the politicians from running away with the treasury. You ain't got no such thingy HERE and you desperately NEED ONE!!!
And, ALL government contracts are putout on Public Bid and the LOW Bidder gets the contract! NO_ONE can start a project that hasn't been approved by and funded for by the Congress. That's the way the Budget works in the USA, unlike here
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I don?t even know were to start. Did I read Public Bid, WOW who bids for weapons and military equipment? It is Halliburton, the same people that are at the top of the administration. Did I hear Budget?, where is the money spent in Iraq and Katrina going to come from; not from taxes as more tax cuts are around the corner for wealthy ones. The president does not recognize Global warming to have scientific base. I mean common somebody is getting paid follow the money. As far as the IRS I will agree is the last defense against this corrupt system, although I will argue they are plenty of loopholes that these multinationals companies are using. And it?s all paid from tax dollars. Senators here don?t have to touch 160,000 dollars a year since all their expenses are paid by lobbying conglomerates. At the end of 4 years plus a couple of tips on stock prices you easily have 1 million dollars is that enough, guess not. Call a couple of friends, throw some money and get reelected that is another million easy. Most politicians in the US are wealthy to begging with, look at Bush and Kerry. I can go all night but it all comes down to this.
US politicians are not in any way less corrupt than DR politicians, US citizens are more responsible than DR citizens and there is the big difference.
Our political systems are a reflection of the societies that they govern. DR politicians like to pretend they care but truly they think they work to hard to try something else after 4 years, so they do what ever necessary to keep a government job, and milking the cow. Like most citizens that complaint about the economy and the electricity, however the colmados always have cold beer, and the Loteria tickets are always selling. It is just a reflection. The Us politicians like to pretend that they care but truly they think that they have work to hard taking all those classes at Yale and Harvard. And having to be this close to poor people that don?t have the discipline to follow the rules like they did, unworthy people that don?t share the same ?principals? as they do, and they will do whatever it takes to stop this ?less qualified individuals? to make any decisions. Like most citizens that complaint about gas prices and the fact that China is becoming too powerful, however, they drive SUV?s and don?t want to spend the time to educate their children.
Please Texas Bill don?t compare your child to his friend to make him change his behavior every good parent knows not to do that. Sorry I was not trying to tell you how to raise your kids.
The argument should be around raising the sense of personal responsibility of the citizens of all countries.