Why don't dominicans like cumbia

[Mr_DR]

that's why we don't like Cumbia:
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Que merenguito.

JJ

Este merenguito esta bueno pero a mi tambien me fascina la cumbia,
especialmente despues de uno agitarse bailando unos cuantos
merengues de corrida, es chevere cambiar el paso y relajarse
bailando unas cumbitas como estas.
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[M.A.R.]

I think its just not in their blood.

 

[Mr_DR]

Napoleon dihmes

I think its just not in their blood.

Here is our Napoleon Dihmes singing "Tango" and other classics.

Tango
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Como el primer dia
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La Vida castiga
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A Vucchella
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Venecia sin ti
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Canta mujer
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Mama vieja
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La Vida Castiga
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Tango
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[Mr_DR]

I think its just not in their blood.

It may not be in our blood but it doesn't mean that some of us don't have a taste for it.
You would be surprised to see what Dominicans have a taste for.

Here is our Napoleon Dihmes singing "Tango" and other classical music.

Tango
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Como el primer dia
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La Vida castiga
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A Vucchella
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Venecia sin ti
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Canta mujer
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Mama vieja
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La Vida Castiga
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Tango
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[asopao]

I have noticed this on all my trips to Dominican. That extends to the entire spanish-speaking Caribbean.

While dominicans do appreciate a good vallenato, Puertoricans and Cubans couldn't give a damn about cumbia or vallenato, unless perhaps, we are talking about Carlos Vives.

This contrasts heavily with Mexico, El Salvador, Peru, Ecuador, Argentina, Chile; nations that have adopted cumbia and given it their own spin.

Why is that? Is cumbia too damn slow and boring to caribbean ears? How can that be, cumbia is caribbean. Is it lack of marketing? Or could it be that mexicans and argentines like it because it doesn't seem to be that hard to dance? :cheeky:

I like Cumbia, but only if I go to a party or club and they're playing it, I don't play it in my car. Carlos Vives would be the exception ( and a Colombian guy told me he is a Cumbia/mixed with other stuff).

I find it to be a cool genre, my ears can tolerate it. Yes, is very different from Mexican Nortena/Quebradita, my ears can't tolerate that.

Usually Dominicans stick to only merengue( when it comes to a fast beat/tempo) because it serves as " comic relief" for our daily lives. Also, merengue has all sort of Domininican slang, the mentioning of celebrities, politicians of DR and are known only to Dominicans, and " tigueraje" that cumbia or other foreign genres lack, including salsa.

 

[colombianLisa]

Cumbia needs more marketing. Plus I never even heard of Joe Arroyo until I moved to Miami and hung out with my Baranquillero friends. I also feel that Colombians look down on the costenos and maybe their isn't the support necessary as a result of that.

Nah, it's all rivalry. Cachacos look down on coste?os, coste?os make fun of cachacos... etc etc, but at the end of the day we all listen to vallenatos and recognize that coste?os have shown our culture to the outside world (Garcia Marquez, Pibe Valderrama, Edgar Renteria, Shakira, Sofia Vergara, Carlos Vives...)

 

[colombianLisa]

Ah Mr DR, that was a hell of a cumbia you posted!! :bunny:

 

[colombianLisa]

Liike it or hate it, who hasn't heard el santo Cachon by los embajadores Vallenatos!!

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[Mr_DR]

Ah Mr DR, that was a hell of a cumbia you posted!! :bunny:

jejeje, yep, I love cumbia and I can listen to it all day long.

 

[Mr_DR]

Liike it or hate it, who hasn't heard el santo Cachon by los embajadores Vallenatos!!

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That is also one of my favorites.

 

[colombianLisa]

I bought a bunch of bootleg salsa CD's on the streets in Santiago DR (I know bad bad), and they were like 50% colombian salsa. What really shocked me was that there were Galy Galeano songs on there, I didn't know anybody outside of colombian even knew who Galy Galeano was LOL, that guy is a big ?ero.

 

[Shiraz72]

Would Shakira's La Tortura be considered Cumbia? I like her Spanish language songs much more than her English ones.

Plus the video for that song is pretty caliente... the male singer has a very sultry voice too.:cheeky:

 

[colombianLisa]

La Tortura is not cumbia at all, it's rock mixed with regueton.

 

[colombianLisa]

Cumbia needs more marketing. Plus I never even heard of Joe Arroyo until I moved to Miami and hung out with my Baranquillero friends. I also feel that Colombians look down on the costenos and maybe their isn't the support necessary as a result of that.

You are kidding, I have yet to meet a dominican or latin american from any country who doesn't know this song:

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[Ezequiel]

You are kidding, I have yet to meet a dominican or latin american from any country who doesn't know this song:

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I love this song! I have it in my ipod.

 

[ExtremeR]

I bought a bunch of bootleg salsa CD's on the streets in Santiago DR (I know bad bad), and they were like 50% colombian salsa. What really shocked me was that there were Galy Galeano songs on there, I didn't know anybody outside of colombian even knew who Galy Galeano was LOL, that guy is a big ?ero.

Galeano is really known between salseros circles in the DR (specially Santo Domingo where most of the salsa is listened).

 

[colombianLisa]

But Vive's days are gone. Him and Shakira were the toast of Colombia, but Shakira was such a superior talent and the rest is history. But Ballenato will never be much by itself.

Okay, I am deviating from the original topic, but here it goes.

Those two were not THE toast of colombia. colombia has produced a lot of talent. You forgot Juanes. Vallenato may not be as mainstream, but cumbia is, at least all over south and central america and mexico. Also you are forgetting about colombian salsa. Colombia is second to Puerto Rico and Cuba when it comes to salsa, it has produced a LOT more salsa talent than the DR, here is just a few samples:

Mimi Ibarra, the salsera with the most following in the DR:

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[Mr_DR]

Okay, I am deviating from the original topic, but here it goes.

Those two were not THE toast of colombia. colombia has produced a lot of talent. You forgot Juanes. Vallenato may not be as mainstream, but cumbia is, at least all over south and central america and mexico. Also you are forgetting about colombian salsa. Colombia is second to Puerto Rico and Cuba when it comes to salsa, it has produced a LOT more salsa talent than the DR, here is just a few samples:

Mimi Ibarra, the salsera with the most following in the DR:

There you go again colombiaLisa, always trying to compare dominicans to colombians, and imply that dominicans has no talent. FYI, while for you or colombians it may be considered a talent for a person to be able to do salsa, in the Dominican Republic it is not viewed as a talent. Most dominican musicians whether a merenguero, a balladist, a jazzist, bachatero, a rockanroller, a bolerist, or even an avg Joe off the street can do a salsa just like the best out there. Most dominicans musicians are well rounded and will play you any kind of music and that is why a great number of them are accepted in some of the most prestigious schools and music academies in the world.

It is not that DR doesn't produce salsa talent. Though our musicians can do any type of music, they go for their music of personal preferences, Dominican musicians talent is admired by many and some such as Aisha Syed, Karina Pasian, Alih Jey, Michelle Marie, Michael Camilo, Anthony Ocana, Napoleon Dihmes and Crystal Marie have performed for important figures and places to include Queen Elizabeth of England and the white house for US presidents.

While you think that being able to sing salsa is talent and think that Colombia produces much more salsa talents than Dominican Republic, for a dominican musician, singing salsa is not seing as a talent but just a natural skill most of them possess.

Here are some Dominicans musicians showing their salsa skills.

Alex Bueno
Jardin prohibido
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Mickey Taveras
A pesar del tiempo
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Mi historia entre tus dedos
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Cuando se acaba el amor
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Maldita forma de querer
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Michell y Geniris
Tu me haces faltas amor mmio
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Johny Pacheco
agua del clavelito
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Antonio Belio

Te fuiste una vez mas
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Tortura de amor
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"Simplemente yo" trailer
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La Cocoband
Salsa con coco.
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Raulin Rosendo
Lady Laura
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Uno se cura
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Que no se rompa la noche
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Si no van amorir mi muerte
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Y ahora te vas
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Michel el buenon
Me haces falta amor mio
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Dos amantes
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mi todo
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Extranandote
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Cuco Valoy

Nacio Varon
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Juliana
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Yolanda Duke
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Olias a mujer
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Rubby Perez
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sexappeal
triste final
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Triste final
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no te iras
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Y cuenta te daras
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Ya no te alcanzo
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Si no te hubieras ido
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Mal o bien
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Jose Alberto el canario
Disculpeme Senora
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Asdrubar
Suelta mi mano ya
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El doctorado
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La tela de mi camisa
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Sueno contigo
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Bailemos otra vez
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Lo que quiero es salsa
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Te regalo amores
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[colombianLisa]

When I posted teh question about cumbia, the overwhelming response was that dominicans are so extremely talented and have such wonderful music and are so musically self sufficient, that everything else basically doesn't measure up, that's kind of smug, especially considering that bachata composers are so self sufficient they do vallenato covers.

Fine if you don't like a genre, you don't have to. For the record, I agree dominicans are talented and have swing, but I am dispelling the notion that other countries have nothing to offer musically speaking.

 

[calen05]

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<iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/aHsJ6hB_viI" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe> This fourth video shows two schools of cumbia in the first 2 minutes everything else is mapale puya and salsa

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<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/VyGb6VhawaU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>this last one is more of a garabato but i still consider it part of it