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caribmike

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Me too, not being an expert in such things. I just hope it is just another model and will change tonight again for some more positive outlook for us.

See, when I wrote the above earlier today on to windy.com Maria was hitting the DR with the eye over Saona according to the ECMWF model.

Now three hours later the eye is placed more over Miches which indicates ECMWF is recognising movement to the North too.
 

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significant changes on the tracking on the 5PM update.

Maria is a intensifying Cat1 Hurricane.

the tracking past the southern Leeward islands is adjusted a few degrees more North,
but if it comes that way/in that angle, then it is bad news for DR,
because that would bring Maria on a WWNW Heading towards SE PR instead of a NW Heading over central/Western PR.
on such PR approach it would very likely bounce from the PR Mountains and get a shutty westerly push,
it would mean a straight heading for the Mona Passage.
that Mona Passage is my Homedoor and only 80 nmls wide, a piece of cake.

somebody mentioned the European Model not to have as much Details/Info as the american run GFS Model,
that is completely wrong.
both Models, as well as any other model run on this globe, has the full detailed Storm Data including the vital and most significant Data from the Hunter Flights available and is using that as input.
the European Model proofs since years Storm by Storm to be the by far most exact/least erroring Model for Tracking World Wide, hence the NHC/NOAA rely highly on the Tracking Forcasts of the Eurpoean Model.
the European and the GFS Models are the only ones bringing reliable/accurate forecasts for Storm Tracking and Powers, each model on it's specific Top Usage Sectors.
for Tracking the European Model is clearly King, according to the NHC.

there's just to hope that the Northwards shifting will continue all night long,
so that Maria will bounce PR on their East and miss us over here completely by far.
wandering or scratching along the PR South will bring Maria onto the worst Track possible for DR, for ME!.

time to hit the road here
I will watch all 3hrly updates all night long.
let it shift much more

Mike
 

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If not, pack your stuff, the greenies, the princess (and if you want the wife :D) and head to the capital. We have a guest room. :)
 

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If not, pack your stuff, the greenies, the princess (and if you want the wife :D) and head to the capital. We have a guest room. :)

thanks for that offer.
but by now that Capital is not any more out of a possible Hotzone than the East.
we will see how this shifts tonight.
I say it will miss or just scratch over the PR East on the PR's Eastside towards WWNW and get the tyoical "boune effect" to head NW from there, satying nice far on the DR's NE, with all of us on it's weaker SW Side eating galletas and drinking cold beers all weekend long, because again we will have a lot of emergency shopping to eat and drink, bought for nothing.
we should get a very clear picture by tomorrow, about the Plans of Maria.
the song say's: Maria se fue por la Playa.
Fock, she's no guest on my Playa.

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See, when I wrote the above earlier today on to windy.com Maria was hitting the DR with the eye over Saona according to the ECMWF model.

Now three hours later the eye is placed more over Miches which indicates ECMWF is recognising movement to the North too.

It is difficult not to "over think and do" our own projections. This just causes more worry and stress.

We have no choice other then to wait. New information gathered every few hours.

The new information gives us a little more so that everyone we can better prepare and be ready as needed. I've ordered more diesel fuel for the generator and getting some pre-hurricane stuff done ahead of time. This leaves the important time free to get serious if needed and get heavy prep done.

Mike is good at this and I trust him. Pre-prep doing simple things before and increase as things develop.
 

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8PM update.
No News so far.

when the night comes, have to put ole Joe on now.
in the morning we will see it tracking over Eastern PR,
and that will be when tracking starts to move the right way, upwards on the Maps.
time for a Sunday eve drink and german criminal movie.

Mike

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Predicted to be CAT 4 when reaching PR but looks like it is little by little moving North on its way. Much like Irma or?
 

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good evening news so far on the 11PM update.

Maria is as awaited intensifying, running 85mphr max winds, that's 59mphr on the weaker wallside.
forward speed is slowing down, taking that in count means it intensified quickly the last 3hrs.
I guess the power forecasts will shift upwards on the scale.
BUT,
the Tracking is waht this is all about,
and that is now placed significant miles further northwards.
i said it earlier, when the night comes.

keep it that way, and Maria se fue por otra playa en otro Pais.
turn a bit more to get the bounce effect on Eastern PR pushing further N on touch with the Windfield
and we will all be fine with Maria.

Mike

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I was just thinking the same thing...if it is going to come I hope it is no worse than Irma. Which was strong enough to cause a few anxious moments here. For some of us, it looks like the brunt of Maria will be a nighttime event. All the noises but you can't see.
 

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on 41degress(NE) 160kilometers out from Barbados.
the Martinique Radar shows that the prime time waterloads are carried on the nortehrn quadrants, GOOD!
Radar Shot taken 11:15PM Sunday Sept 17th.

Mike

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caribmike

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What I do not get is Windy.com and NOAA using the same ECMWF model.
According to Windy page the center of Maria will hit Punta Cana head on, according to NOAA not. Same model. Strange. Of course I take NOAA (after Mike of course ;)) more serious.

So, what is Windy up to? Fake news?
 

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What I do not get is Windy.com and NOAA using the same ECMWF model.
According to Windy page the center of Maria will hit Punta Cana head on, according to NOAA not. Same model. Strange. Of course I take NOAA (after Mike of course ;)) more serious.

So, what is Windy up to? Fake news?

You can change to the GFS model in Windy.com and it shows exactly the same tracking as NOAA.. As for the european model, it shows the storm hitting Punta Cana directly.
 

caribmike

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Exactly. I understood, we all agreed on that the European models are the more reliable and that NOAA relies on those, so why now the GFS model?
 

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What I do not get is Windy.com and NOAA using the same ECMWF model.
According to Windy page the center of Maria will hit Punta Cana head on, according to NOAA not. Same model. Strange. Of course I take NOAA (after Mike of course ;)) more serious.

So, what is Windy up to? Fake news?

No, absolutely not the same data used.
Windy is never up to date, they are hours and sometimes half a day behind the NOAA updates.
there forecasts are really completely useless.
i followed that site for a long while since it came up here on the Topic.
looks pretty nice colorful, but that's like a super heavy painted sexy Bra after a gallon of Brugal XV.
wake up the next morning and take a look on her when she comes out of the bathroom undone and you jump from the 10th floor Penthouse into safety.
You can't tell a exact Track over 48 or even more hrs ahead of time, tat's why the NHC uses that "Cone of certainty/uncertainty".
those guys do that since ever and they know why they do not predict not even a 24hrs outlook as a Line, but as a Cone, becasue it is impossible by todays knowledges/softwares/weather observations and calculations to paint a correct fine Line 24hrs out for a Storms Tracking.
there are not dozens but hundreds of factors/variables who have to be forecasted correctly, and i mean on time of appearance/strength/movement and length of occurance completely exactly, to forecast the next 5hrs exactly on a correct happening fine thin line on a Map.
such is not possible, so the different model runs are done with slight different input about the forecasted variables like occurances of High Pressure Ridges, upcoming Low pressure Areas, their stength and movements.
and each of those variables is based on a forecast with a "Cone".
all this is Computer programming and the use of the world's top speed high tech computers on the highest possible level.
Humans alone could not tell ya if it will rain **** in an hour or if the Mona Channel will freeze tonight, lol.
Windy is just one of many Visitor attracting sites on the Net.
sites which attract visitors are venues for AD Moneys, and thats what it finally is all about, get da $$$$$.
like the crap told completely hyped up a week before a Storm could theoretically hit a american city on TV and those different news sources websites and facebook pages etc etc.
it is all about the big $$$, and there are monster loads of $$$ earned every Irma, Maria, Sandy, Kathy and whatsoever Biach running for the Top-Model of the year or the century.
and don't get me wrong, this is not meant to blame americans for their dumbazz kinda News they have,
the Europeans are not a single bit better, they are exactly the same fear mongers for Money $$$.
that includes the german TV and News coverage of such events.
I just mention more often the american news sources, as they are what we listen to and read about here on the Island.
who te fock would move to te Caribbean and watch German TV News??

don't watch those many colorful sites, they will not help you not a little bit to get the real info or feel better or anything Real.
stick to the info taken from the NHC/NOAA, the only source professional and with the knowledge about anything related to Tropical Cyclone things.
Yes, I said this, there is something we really can trust the americans on, really.

let's keep Maria on it's Trend it went today and specially with a huge move by 11PM tonight,
and we will be all fine.
a lil bit more up on da Map and even eastern Samana will not even get TS-Force Winds.
and honsetly, nobody who prepares todays for a Storm should fear any TS Force Winds.
what is always important to know, for every single area where each is living,
is the vulnerability in case of Rainloads.
Major Hurricane Forces of the highest level aside, the thing we really have to fear is the Water coming down on us within sometimes 5-10hrs full loads and then many long hours afterwards in bursts/rain on-off intervalls.
for example myself here at my place i have nothing to fear from Rainloads.
it could rain the whole week without any stopping monet, so what, the roads would be completely blocked?
yeah, so i use a Zodiac instead of a car or bike. it would not be a life threatening dnager here in my area.
but it is THE big danger for so many areas around teh Island.
and of those rainy dangers you primarily always have to be aware abotu for your specific own area.
you have to know what waterloads can be taken safely and when teh time is come to leave because it gets dangerous.

so let's Maria keep moving tonight and tomorrow on it's today shown drift.
IF the constellation of te Storm does not change, then we would even stay safe waterwise,
buit this is a point completely uncertain, as this Storm very likely will get much more powerful tahn it is at the moment, so it's positioning of waterloads and the Distances it spread's them out, can and very likely will change a lot the next several days before arrival.

stay dry

Mike
 

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I don't want to sound negative or anything, but i think the european model is being more realistc right now. I mean, if the mountains of Puerto Rico can create that "bounce effect" to the north, wouldn't it do the same effect to the south? given that the southern part of the island is even more mountainous than the north, bringing the path of Maria alot closer to a direct impact in the eastern part of DR?? Kinda like what happened with George..
 
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