Next minister of Interior & Police says government will apply the law

[El Rey de Mangu]

It's commentary about posters on the site. Not the site itself...............buddy.

You sound so familiar. I swear I know you from somewhere.

 

[aarhus]

In regards to this topic, I constantly read where DR1's own in house legal consultants, Guzmán Ariza, are frequently quoted with the phrase "legal work around", as it relates to paying as you leave our country.

Here is another quote from the same legal entity, that rarely, if ever gets mentioned by those truly obsessed with the situation......

"A foreign national, such as a retiree, a person intent on doing business, or an investor, who seeks to stay in the Dominican Republic for a year or more should consider obtaining residency status."

Nationality, Citizenship and Immigration Guzmán Ariza | The Dominican Republic Law Firm

The rights of citizenship are only bestowed upon a Dominican national who has reached the age of eighteen, or who is married or has been married before..

drlawyer.com

The key words being should & consider, connected with the specific time frame mentioned. Not must, after 30 days.

Should & consider. What if someone staying over a year without leaving just automatically enrolled as a resident so if they after a year get involved in a traffic incident or turn up at a clinic or something like that are then told to go to the junta central/immigration or whatever its called and there is a bunch fees they owe and they get a cedula.

 

[MikeFisher]

and it is solely the GusFring opinion(and of course there are others, also entitled to their opinion), that nothing of the 162 posts is related to the OP.
I am one who see's it direct connected and related.
different people with different interpretations of the same article and different opinions on one theme.
well, I say this Life is beautiful with all it's diversity

 

[El Rey de Mangu]

Should & consider. What if someone staying over a year without leaving just automatically enrolled as a resident so if they after a year get involved in a traffic incident or turn up at a clinic or something like that are then told to go to the junta central/immigration or whatever its called and there is a bunch fees they owe and they get a cedula.

I don't follow this. What happened first. They are a resident and end up in a clinic? Or they are an overstayer and end up in a clinic? If you are a resident or not, they have not, up to now, cared at the hospital. Just recorded your info in case you die there. Or are you proposing they can use the hospital/clinic as an opportunity to do a background check? What was this post driving at

 

[aarhus]

I don't follow this. What happened first. They are a resident and end up in a clinic? Or they are an overstayer and end up in a clinic? If you are a resident or not, they have not, up to now, cared at the hospital. Just recorded your info in case you die there. Or are you proposing they can use the hospital/clinic as an opportunity to do a background check? What was this post driving at

It was just an idea lol . Yes it would be an overstayer after a year is considered a resident and then somehow after that time gets in contact with authorities and they say you are a resident now and owe all these fees and will get a cedula and residency card. We have a list of approved immigration attorneys you can use. I just liked the idea and thought I would share it here.

 

[El Rey de Mangu]

It was just an idea lol . Yes it would be an overstayer after a year is considered a resident and then somehow after that time gets in contact with authorities and they say you are a resident now and owe all these fees and will get a cedula and residency card. We have a list of approved immigration attorneys you can use. I just liked the idea and thought I would share it here.

A dream is more like it. How easy would
that be? If it's not almost impossible and not set up so everyone gets a piece of the pie, it ain't happening

 

[RDKNIGHT]

Someone tell me why ... A lot of haters

 

[RDKNIGHT]

Absolutely! If they're gonna come here loaded with money and they'll be pumping money into the economy they can stay as long as they don't run out of money. If they're gonna come here and get on welfare or commit crimes then obviously no 🤷‍♂️

no welfare in Dr you will go hungry......or be on the corner with peg leg begging for money in bavaro

 

[aarhus]

A dream is more like it. How easy would
that be? If it's not almost impossible and not set up so everyone gets a piece of the pie, it ain't happening

Well normally our mindset is you are illegal after a while and that’s how it is in the US and Europe. Here it’s different as they say you should consider after a year. Its not we deport you after a year.

 

[aarhus]

no welfare in Dr you will go hungry......or be on the corner with peg leg begging for money in bavaro

I think user123 meant the US.

 

[CristoRey]

and

also China been mentioned several times by the new to reign guys, which I like a lot.
the DR has to flexibel on all sides and pick the best piece of each offered pie.

Flexible on all sides?
Comrade Mike it was the CCP who gave us the virus.
The Dominican Republic doesn't need any more debt
and they most certainly do not need China medaling in
their politics.
That said, I've never met a Chinese person I didn't like
or get along with in the DR. As a matter a fact my favorite
chicken joint in Santiago is owned by a really nice couple
from Guangzhou. Chinese folks, Chinese art and Chinese
food are wonderful but the CCP is a monster.

The Dominican politicians have been kicking the immigration
ball around since I moved down to the DR back in 2012. Much
like they've been kicking around how to deal with the Haitians,
crime, education, poverty, money laundering, auto accidents,
drug addiction, transportation syndics, corruption and delinquency.
YAWN.

 

[aarhus]

Flexible on all sides?
Comrade Mike it was the CCP who gave us the virus.
The Dominican Republic doesn't need any more debt
and they most certainly do not need China medaling in
their politics.
That said, I've never met a Chinese person I didn't like
or get along with in the DR. As a matter a fact my favorite
chicken joint in Santiago is owned by a really nice couple
from Guangzhou. Chinese folks, Chinese art and Chinese
food are wonderful but the CCP is a monster.

The Dominican politicians have been kicking the immigration
ball around since I moved down to the DR back in 2012. Much
like they've been kicking around how to deal with the Haitians,
crime, education, poverty, money laundering, auto accidents,
drug addiction, transportation syndics, corruption and delinquency.
YAWN.

It is yawn but we live here and just feel we have to discuss it all even though it will just be the same old. I learned this saying from Americans. Say hi to the new boss. Same as the old boss.

 

[Lobo Tropical]

Flexible on all sides?
Comrade Mike it was the CCP who gave us the virus.
The Dominican Republic doesn't need any more debt
and they most certainly do not need China medaling in
their politics.
That said, I've never met a Chinese person I didn't like
or get along with in the DR. As a matter a fact my favorite
chicken joint in Santiago is owned by a really nice couple
from Guangzhou. Chinese folks, Chinese art and Chinese
food are wonderful but the CCP is a monster.

The Dominican politicians have been kicking the immigration
ball around since I moved down to the DR back in 2012. Much
like they've been kicking around how to deal with the Haitians,
crime, education, poverty, money laundering, auto accidents,
drug addiction, transportation syndics, corruption and delinquency.
YAWN.

The DR invites China for its money and possible development in the DR.
China is meddling in the politics of many countries in the same way.
Development of gas fired power plants, water plants and even possibly potable water, roads, public transport, trains are just some possibilities.
All sorely needed in the DR and not yet financed by anyone.

 

[Lobo Tropical]

156 posts about the exit fee regarding an article that has nothing to do with the exit fee. Only on DR1.

You may want to re-read the law and the posts and see if there is a possible connection.

Residency Status in the Dominican Republic. The General Law on Migration No. 285-04 (Ley General de Migración, No. 285-04) indicates that migratory status is divided into two categories: Non-resident (No Residentes) and Resident (Residente) (Dominican Republic 2004, Art. 29).
Refworld | Dominican Republic and Haiti: Procedures to ..

1. Ley No. 285-04 CONSIDERANDO: CONSIDERANDO
   dgii.gov.do/sobreTarjetaTurista/Documents/Ley285-04.pdf · PDF file
   Ley No. 285-04 CONSIDERANDO: Que las migraciones internacionales constituyen uno de los procesos sociales más importantes de la nación dominicana al inicio del Siglo XXI, cuyas consecuencias condicionan significativamente la vida económica, política y cultural del país; CONSIDERANDO: Que el país debe dar una respuesta funcional y moderna a los retos de un …

 

[johne]

Do you overstay through no choice?

I don't overstay. (meaning my agenda doesn't include more than 30 days consecutively in the DR.) I follow a schedule of 3 weeks here followed by 2 weeks in the states and repeat. Yesterday I finished the third cycle since I have been on this schedule. I am now here. That's why I said "I have no skin in this game" (by choice).

 

[johne]

The DR invites China for its money and possible development in the DR.
China is meddling in the politics of many countries in the same way.
Development of gas fired power plants, water plants and even possibly potable water, roads, public transport, trains are just some possibilities.
All sorely needed in the DR and not yet financed by anyone.

"meddling" = investing?
"not yet financed by anyone" = World Bank?

 

[windeguy]

You are waffling.
In another tread you stated that this is the DR and every case is handled differently, never know what you get.

Fact is, that immigration tells m, there is no problem with overstay and just pay on leaving.
This is still the alternate reality to your claim and DR permitted law, lovingly collected by immigration officials.

If all overstayers were treated as illegals, a very serious offence in other countries
They would be flagged and any further entry denied, which in 99% of the overstays is not the case.
Convicted criminals after after being extradited by Interpol are allowed back in to the DR after a few years.

Sometimes you act as a drama queen being righteous about residence, or cultural female ambassadors in Sosua.
You like to arrange realities to your own liking,
Yet you well, that the DR has many different approaches to their existing laws,
Never know what you get in the parallel universes, with different realities.

Immigration was run be the PLD for 20 years and they ignored immigration law. They made up a schedule of exit fees.
They arranged reality to their liking.

The new government is saying they will enforce immigration law. Perhaps they will arrange reality to coincide with the laws as is actualy stated in this original post with the actual law mentioned.

I am not arranging anything. If you like to be a whoremonger or illegal alien, that is up to you. Everyone has their own level of risk they will take.
Time will tell if the actual level of risk will go up for illegal aliens in the DR.

 

[windeguy]

The comparison between illegal aliens and overstayers is kind of ridiculous though. The typical illegal alien offers nothing to the society but drains its resources. Your typical overstayer is an addition to a society pumping dollars into an already struggling economy. Again common sense tells us they will never get rid of someone who can add to their economy even moreso than their own citizens. Just pay your overstay fee and live your life.

An illegal alien is based upon the law. Not your nor my opinion on their "value".

 

[windeguy]

Have a look at the video of illegal Haitians entering the DR.
The immigration laws have to appear to be applied to all, in order to avoid international protests of discrimination,
And to keep international aid coming in.

You can be sure the DR gov. is not greatly concerned about US, CAN and EU citizens.
Abinader already stated that the US connection and relation is of the utmost importance to his gov. and the DR.
CAN and EU was also mentioned along with Brazil.

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I cannot predict the future, nor do I trust in what anyone says. I can only observe their actions.

I cannot be sure of anything. I just have to wait and see if the new head of MIP keeps his word and the exit fees disappear as a consequence of actually enforcing the existing law.

Let us see if that happens, or not.

 

[william webster]

Andre the Giant

It's a bit of a stretch to say all illegal immigrants offer nothing to society

The agricultural sector of the USA relies on that type of labor... as do others
Meat Packing/Slaughterhouses for one