Travelling to Europe for Dominican citizens changes in 2024

johne

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Does your wife have an American Visa? One of our teachers was denied a European Visa even though she comes from a well to do family. She applied for an American Visa and was accepted. She traveled to the US a couple of times and reapplied for the European Visa and this time she was accepted.
Interesting, because our plan was the opposite of what you have written here. No, she doesn't have a US visa. She has had one trip out of the DR that didn't require a visa for entry. Then we were planning on the trip to Spain in Sept. My thoughts were to then apply for USA visa and a trip to my hometown. My thinking was that with a couple of trips in her passport it would strengthen the case for the US passport.
Now I think I will get a meeting with the embassy after the first of the year for US. LOL, it might be easier than getting a visa for Spain.
 

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Interesting, because our plan was the opposite of what you have written here. No, she doesn't have a US visa. She has had one trip out of the DR that didn't require a visa for entry. Then we were planning on the trip to Spain in Sept. My thoughts were to then apply for USA visa and a trip to my hometown. My thinking was that with a couple of trips in her passport it would strengthen the case for the US passport.
Now I think I will get a meeting with the embassy after the first of the year for US. LOL, it might be easier than getting a visa for Spain.
our experience is that the only way you can get a visa for spain is with a lawyer
 

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Where can I find this please?
I read watch the news on tv when inmigration lawer was speaking about it, and its simple logic, you apply for a schengen visa to go Italy with Italian consulate telling you are going spend vacation time in Venice, want to see the Coliseum, Pisa tower and when you book your flight your final destination is spain, What you think will happend ? if they grand you multiple entry visa and next visit you want to visit any other country everything will be ok but never do that with first entry.
 

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I read watch the news on tv when inmigration lawer was speaking about it, and its simple logic, you apply for a schengen visa to go Italy with Italian consulate telling you are going spend vacation time in Venice, want to see the Coliseum, Pisa tower and when you book your flight your final destination is spain, What you think will happend ? if they grand you multiple entry visa and next visit you want to visit any other country everything will be ok but never do that with first entry.
So with other words. It’s the rule because you think it is. I cant find it so for me it doesnt existe.
It is a Schengen visa for all the countries which are in the Schengen arrangement.
 

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If you read my post I said final destination must be the country you asked the visa in the first visit. As flights within Schengen zone are Domestic flights and no need to do migration, taking my example I must book a flight SDQ-MAD-MXP as I asked the visa to Visit Italy, I will do inmigration in Spain and will continue with my connecting flight to Mila as Domestic flight. If I asked Italy the visa my first visit I can not book a flight SDQ-MAD-SDQ because inmigration in Spain will ask you why are you staying in Spain and not going to Italy as they gave you the visa? They are partners but they are not same country. If Spain reject your visa application you can go to another schengen country an apply for a visa and they can say yes to you, maybe now Im more clear.
 

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So with other words. It’s the rule because you think it is. I cant find it so for me it doesnt existe.
It is a Schengen visa for all the countries which are in the Schengen arrangement.
As Riva_31 posted below, I'm not going to argue about this either, but as for some reason the info I posted already twice above is ignored, posting just once more: As per the link provided above, which is directly from the German Embassy in Santo Domingo, this question for the first entry point is answered. I also stated above clearly, that I don't know the consequences if one decides to use another entry point than that of the visa nor do I know about multiple-entry visas, just answering the first question.

We've dealt with EU migration numerous times, and perhaps two tips I could share, that the embassy has shared with us:
1. I would not trust any other source of information than the respective embassy of the country, this would including me hesitating trusting the travel insurance company posted above as a source of information. They are not an authority but merely a private company that sells insurances, nor are the migration.
2. As per the wording the German embassy prints on their visa guidance, given with their visas, the last word has the migration in the destination country. Even if you have a valid visa, that is not a guarantee of an approved entry, if any of your other documents have any issue. If migration in EU decides not to let you in, no point in arguing on info you may have found or what the embassy told you, they have the last word. So better do things right in their eyes.
 

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As flights within Schengen zone are Domestic flights and no need to do migration,
Just a very minor correction if I may to avoid confusion with terminology: domestic flights are only within one country. Flights within the Schengen area are just that, flights within the Schengen area, as referenced by EU airports as well.
 

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our experience is that the only way you can get a visa for spain is with a lawyer
Why would a lawyer make any difference? What is it that the lawyer can do that a person cannot do for themselves?

I have seen the one line application forms for a Schengen Visa. All on line. What would a lawyer do?
 

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Why would a lawyer make any difference? What is it that the lawyer can do that a person cannot do for themselves?
Very simple...some prefer to leave the paperwork to someone else. Using a lawyer who specializes in visas, etc....sometimes is an advantage. My SIL who is a well-known OBGYN in the area along with her spouse who owns a very successful business were having trouble a while back getting a visa to Spain. It was suggested to use a lawyer who specializes in visas. Once they did that, the process went smoothly and quickly, visas obtained.
 
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Very simple...some prefer to leave the paperwork to someone else. Using a lawyer who specializes in visas, etc....sometimes is an advantage. My SIL who is a well-known OBGYN in the area along with her spouse who owns a very successful business were having trouble a while back getting a visa to Spain. It was suggested to use a lawyer who specializes in visas. Once they did that, the process went smoothly and quickly, visas obtained.
Understood. But I fail to see what the lawyer could do with respect to a purely on line application.
I guess they want to keep that a secret. There is a service for visas near Bournigal in Puerto Plata.
They said France was currently the easiest country to enter first. There is nothing like Paris in the spring time.
 
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Understood. But I fail to see what the lawyer could do with respect to a purely on line application.
I guess they want to keep that a secret. There is a service for visas near Bournigal in Puerto Plata.
They said France was currently the easiest country to enter first. There is nothing like Paris in the spring time.
Windeguy beat me to it (thank you!), I was just going to ask this same question... So exactly, I understand using a lawyer to draft contracts and make documents etc, but visa application is a form you fill out with your personal information and you send the embassy the documents they list or want additionally, so my question (and that of windeguy), what is it that a lawyer in the case of Spanish visa does differently? They can't fill out the form differently nor send different documents, so what's left? And is there not an interview part that you have to attend personally and only you?
 
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Let's put it like this, what works for you may not work for me. Does a lawyer know something we do not? Who knows, but if someone feels more comfortable with using a lawyer then that is their choice. Worked out great for my SIL.
 
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I believe a lawyer can assist in producing a LOI (Letter Of Invitation from abroad) if a trip is job related. I'm half way through passport no 6 since 2005 and I have 29 visas to different countries in those passports. All visas job related but all needed the LOI. No LOI no visa. LOI to bring in a tourist to Spain may be hard to get.
 

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Windeguy beat me to it (thank you!), I was just going to ask this same question... So exactly, I understand using a lawyer to draft contracts and make documents etc, but visa application is a form you fill out with your personal information and you send the embassy the documents they list or want additionally, so my question (and that of windeguy), what is it that a lawyer in the case of Spanish visa does differently? They can't fill out the form differently nor send different documents, so what's left? And is there not an interview part that you have to attend personally and only you?
Bingo.. Exactly as I see it.
 

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I believe a lawyer can assist in producing a LOI (Letter Of Invitation from abroad) if a trip is job related. I'm half way through passport no 6 since 2005 and I have 29 visas to different countries in those passports. All visas job related but all needed the LOI. No LOI no visa. LOI to bring in a tourist to Spain may be hard to get.
Ah well, then. There is no "work" involved in my question.

My interest is simply to get a visit for my wife to Spain, she has a relative that that would do the necessary invitation. I have already conclued such an endevour is futile. The work involved is currently tantamount to getting legal residency in the DR. Something most people now entering the DR to live her are avoding at all costs.
 

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Ah well, then. There is no "work" involved in my question.

My interest is simply to get a visit for my wife to Spain, she has a relative in Spain that would do the necessary invitation including Apostille.


I have already conclued such an endevour is futile. The work involved is currently tantamount to getting legal residency in the DR. Something most people now entering the DR to live her are avoding at all costs.