A lot of businesses closed in Sosua

[Seamonkey]

At times I am lazy and just re-quote information posted by other dr1 contributors as I think you know.

In the case of the population figures for Sos?a I haven't checked since the election but I recall it being closer to 60,000. It is a large municipality, extending all the way east to Sabaneta and west to Cangrejo. The factors you mention contribute significantly. For that reason and also my own experience with their "methodology", I believe the 2010 amounts reported are substantially less than the latest figures.

Sabaneta????So you are saying Cabarete is part of Sosua???

 

[Seamonkey]

I follow two Sosua forums.
DR1 and a Sosua Monger forum.
I'm not a Monger, but I do like to know how the enemy thinks.

When this year's closers and early closings hit, there was a lot of outrage on the Monger Forum.

But...
In the last two months, the talk is based on frequent ?I just got back? reports.
The Monger Forum is of the opinion, that Sosua is still open for business.
The Monger just have to start earlier in the day.
The Chicas are now sitting 5 or 6 to a table with a single order of chips (adjusting to Restaurant not Bar format).
Talk of using Social pages and Apps and Monger-sharing to get contact info before they go.

Who really thinks that closing the Bars at midnight would stop these guys.

The real punishment was to the Bar owners who have lost the two most lucrative hours of the day, and are being ask to re-tool to be Restaurants.


The ?Family Tourists? will be starting to book their Holidays soon.

Sosua has to get it act together, or face a troubled winter (high season).

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear (at least, not over night).

You're correct. I haven't spoken to one monger who is upset or who can't find his fix. It's business as usual in Sosua with different bar hours. Nothing else has changed in that world.

 

[NY-DR Commuter]

This thread is more or less about el batey, which has a population of about 8000. Nobody so far has mentioned bars in charamicos, sosua abajo, maranatha, la union and others being a concern. Also, the population of Sosua is near 50,000 as per wikiipedia.

Wikipedia?

Um, OK.

 

[NY-DR Commuter]

Sabaneta????So you are saying Cabarete is part of Sosua???

Yes.

Check it out on . . .

. . . Wikipedia.

 

[NY-DR Commuter]

This thread is more or less about el batey, which has a population of about 8000. Nobody so far has mentioned bars in charamicos, sosua abajo, maranatha, la union and others being a concern. Also, the population of Sosua is near 50,000 as per wikipidia.

Los Charamicos, Sos?a Abajo, Maranatha, La Uni?n and others are where some of the workers on Pedro Clisante live and part of Sos?a. Very few of the workers on Pedro Clisante or even El Batey actually live there, they live in these "barrios".

 

[NY-DR Commuter]

i disagree. for every loud obnoxious snatch hunting asswart there are ten quiet guys who come here as much for relaxation and chilling as they do for crotch muffins.

Perhaps in Puerto Plata, but not in Sos?a, not any more and certainly not ten to one.

 

[ju10prd]

Yes.

Check it out on . . .

. . . Wikipedia.

Yes less than 50,000 locals (and that includes the old and very young )were counted in the greater municipality in the 2010 census and that includes Cabarete. The majority of the Dominicans you see all around you in the area and confide with are not in the large majority Sosuans........and never have been because Wikipedias number comes from 2002.

 

[NY-DR Commuter]

Yes less than 50,000 locals (and that includes the old and very young )were counted in the greater municipality in the 2010 census and that includes Cabarete. The majority of the Dominicans you see all around you in the area and confide with are not in the large majority Sosuans........and never have been because Wikipedias number comes from 2002.

I was actually being facetious about using Wikipedia, as you can see . . . 2002 data.

If I used Wikipedia as a "hard" reference in my current employment here in the Dominican Republic I would be reprimanded, at the very least. There are better sources.

 

[windeguy]

Whore mongers=putas=motoconchos=street vendors=restaurants and bars being busy which means more money in the economy. It is no secret that minus the whore mongers this town will be dead. Period. The families and the local expats spend very little money compared to the weekend warriors. Unless you have a business in Sosua (which you don't) you don't fully understand or see it. Sosua needs both groups to stay alive. A cleaner more vibrant Sosua with whores on the side.

As someone who has and does own businesses in El Batey I will have to take your word that El Batey will suffer with no mongers. The rest of Sosua, not so much.

How many mongers are in El Batey at any given time?

 

[CristoRey]

The rest of Sosua, not so much.

I sure hope not.

 

[Rustxko]

Perhaps in Puerto Plata, but not in Sos?a, not any more and certainly not ten to one.

I don't know the numbers, but they are there. As a male traveler who never liked the D Latins and Rumba scene, I've interacted with a lot of these guys in other places. I've met three chicas since I've been coming that married their foreign novios. They may not be the majority but they are still around.

It makes no difference to me what other adults do, but the mongers that everyone seems to not want around pretty much only have one place left.

Which is why I don't understand the disco is still open if they really want to target places for them. I could care less about them as I usually don't get along with them because I believe in remembering you're a guest and representative of your home when you travel.

I've never been inside there to be honest, so I don't really know. Maybe a lot of locals go there as well, but if not, it doesn't make sense to me.

 

[ramesses]

Perhaps in Puerto Plata, but not in Sos?a, not any more and certainly not ten to one.

My experience says she is right.

 

[chico bill]

Perhaps in Puerto Plata, but not in Sos?a, not any more and certainly not ten to one.

I think there are just as many quiet tourists including single (or widowed or twice divorced) men. Let's face it there are 2 blocks from Baileys to D'Latin looping back by Rocky's where the mongers run like giddy sex gangs.
The rest of Batey and even a few businesses in the loop are quiet respectable places that don't have the usual hooker parades. (Maybe there should be an annual January Hooker Parade followed by wet t-shirt and bikini contest ?)
There could even be a Miss Hooker Sosua crowned with free manicures for a year?
I'd attend. Nominees for Master of Ceremonies? Someone with humor and gregarious.
But the rest of Batey has interesting characters, some running from something, some trying to forget but most recanting tales from former lives less lived but embellished anyway.
Most people use juice to line their heads but always head home responsibility to small gardens or to enjoy the North Coast bats flying at sunset from their Adirondack chairs from balconies or patios, feeding the dogs and cats.
I find many enjoyable conversations which don't revolve around discussing the local bang market.

 

[jd426]

What consenting adult do, is their own business.

Mongers eat three meals a day and drink.
They (their money) supports many ordinary people in Sosua.
They keep many Restaurants and Bars open (and I get to use them).
So, thank you Mongers.

My problem with Mongers is that some can act like immature adolescents and this attracts the attention of the ?better people? of Sosua who then want to ?do something to stop them?.

I did not think I would agree with you , based on your prev " enemy " post..
but I have to be honest , I concur with this post 100% +
I think most people are on the same page, but there are still some immature people who bring the whole town down a couple notches, and its not necessary.

Do your think at the Hotel , but keep the immaturity OUT of my favorite Breakfast spot, and if you see all couples DINING, dont come in there like a gang and start with the profanity.
We can all get along, I agree, but either some of these LOUD people step it up a notch with their behavior, or please just stop coming .
We are all guests, and that goes for the whole country, not just Sosua.

 

[Meemselle]

Yup!

Inside the courtyard at Bailey's restaurant, brand new-ish play center...

Great place for all the family!

And note my 'graph: it has absolutely no safety features that proliferate in US playgrounds mismo.

Not saying it's a bad thing. I grew up--well, first of all, without "playgrounds," because I grew up in the middle of east-cupcake nowhere, and one's playgrounds were the back yard, and the acres of fields and woods to traverse. It was a BFD when my town built an actual playground. None of us knew what to do.

Here's the thing: if I'm Dominican, and I see that playground at Bailey's, I'm all over it. If I'm American (and I am: sorry), and I have a kid of playground-using age (which I don't, although Beloved Son at almost 22 might disagree): he/she doesn't get within 10 feet.

 

[Meemselle]

i'm good with mongers, personally. i read monger forums too. the vast majority of visitors who come here just for sex keep low profile, enjoy the beach, have few drinks; they live like a regular expat. nothing in your face, nothing dramatic.

I respectfully disagree. I am no prude, but I live in El Batey and go everywhere on foot. Shopping, farmacia, dinner, drinks, etc. And the whorn-dogs are in my face from sun-up to sun-down. And the putas. When it comes to whores+Sosua, I have an opinion (mine, private) but no judgement.

I don't care what they do. I don't care how they get off. I just don't want it to be so in-yer-face. And that's how it is.

Can somebody take Ilana by the head and shake her until she understands that it's fine: it just needs to be contained. Amsterdam. Reno. It is better for all concerned.

 

[Polar Bear]

Ilana is not in control, nor are the details of the "restructuring" up to her. You need to thing bigger... the Capital.

I respectfully disagree. I am no prude, but I live in El Batey and go everywhere on foot. Shopping, farmacia, dinner, drinks, etc. And the whorn-dogs are in my face from sun-up to sun-down. And the putas. When it comes to whores+Sosua, I have an opinion (mine, private) but no judgement.

I don't care what they do. I don't care how they get off. I just don't want it to be so in-yer-face. And that's how it is.

Can somebody take Ilana by the head and shake her until she understands that it's fine: it just needs to be contained. Amsterdam. Reno. It is better for all concerned.

 

[GuillermoRamon]

They make more illicit income with the badge than without. Not having the badge actually eliminates the opportunity for some.

Exactly, so take the badge away due to a lay-off once they don't need as much police presence in town, then they don't have as much $$, and add to the problem once unemployed as they become fulltime thieves.

 

[GuillermoRamon]

Perhaps in Puerto Plata, but not in Sos?a, not any more and certainly not ten to one.

I have to ask, how is it you have the full pulse of the monger community, how is it you know exactly how many of them there are in town vs non, and how much the mongers spend it totality vs the nons?

Which exact forums or groups do you belong to that gives you so much info, because the ones I belong to like dv8, (and I have a Dominican lady friend, so I do not need to render services of the "ladies of the evening", although I converse with many who do) don't align with what you speak of...

Now, admittedly, the number coming in has been sliding, but many monger forums now realize, after a bit of shock and being unsure if there was going to be a collapse, realize the game hasn't changed like many have posted here, only the hours and bars changed. However, should pressure continue, and all the bars get shut down, thats highly likely to change.

 

[GuillermoRamon]

only ONE disco open, "Classico"

City Lights...