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A-Rods 'nationality'
I agree, I was born in Canada to Italian parents. In my home I was raised with Italian culture, and when asked of my nationality I say that I am Italian. When asked where I'm from or where was I born I of course say Canada. In the situation of Alex Rodriguez, if he was born in the US than he is actually a US citizen, with a Dominican heritage. So, really he isn't wrong, but he shouldn't ignore his roots either.
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Your "NATIONality" is Canadian.From "NATION",like the one you were born in!!
Your cultural heritage,Ethnic Background,"Roots" are Italian,but the Nation where you were born is Canada.cc
Your cultural heritage,Ethnic Background,"Roots" are Italian,but the Nation where you were born is Canada.cc
Tan Dominicano Como El Platano!
Just to update this brouhaha, heard a telephone interview this morning with A-Rod on the most listened to radio call-in show in the DR in the morning, El Gobierno de La Manana (The Government of the Morning). He reiterated he is 'tan dominicano como el platano' (as Dominican as the plantain) and explained he answered the questions as asked. Name, position, country of birth. He made clear he was not asked otherwise. Perhaps people will start to understand him and leave him alone. Some are even saying the Yankees lost because A-Rod is a jinx!
He will be coming to the DR for the holidays to bring toys and sporting equipment for the less-privileged kids as he does, and many other MLB players also do, every year.
Just to update this brouhaha, heard a telephone interview this morning with A-Rod on the most listened to radio call-in show in the DR in the morning, El Gobierno de La Manana (The Government of the Morning). He reiterated he is 'tan dominicano como el platano' (as Dominican as the plantain) and explained he answered the questions as asked. Name, position, country of birth. He made clear he was not asked otherwise. Perhaps people will start to understand him and leave him alone. Some are even saying the Yankees lost because A-Rod is a jinx!
He will be coming to the DR for the holidays to bring toys and sporting equipment for the less-privileged kids as he does, and many other MLB players also do, every year.
A-Rod: 'I want to say it out loud: I am Dominican'
By Enrique Rojas
DETROIT -- Alex Rodriguez feels determined to help the Dominican Republic play a key role in baseball's first World Classic, which will take place in March.
That's why the Yankees third baseman has already decided which country he will represent in the most important international event in baseball's history.
"I am going to play for the Dominican Republic, and I am going to make the Dominicans feel proud," Rodriguez said during the All-Star Game.
"I want to say it out loud: I am Dominican," added Rodriguez.
Major League Baseball, the Players Union and the International Baseball Federation have already announced baseball's first World Classic on Monday, with 16 countries slated to participate.
Rodriguez is one of the many baseball players who has dual citizenship and has the choice of representing the country he prefers.
Rodriguez is son of Dominican parents, but was born in New York. Along with other Dominican players born in the U.S., Rodriguez could play for the United States if so chooses.
"I am Dominican, and that's the flag I will represent in the World Classic," said Rodriguez. "We will have a great team, and we will try to win the title so that all the Dominican people will feel proud of their ballplayers and of their own nationality," he said.
The Dominican Republic will share Pool D, which will play the first round in Florida, with Australia, Venezuela and Italy. The two best teams will advance to the quarterfinals.
The Yankees third baseman was one of the five Dominican players to occupy successive places in the batting order for the American League lineup at the All-Star Game. Rodriguez batted second, a place he has been comfortable with during his last two seasons with the Yankees.
David Ortiz, the designated hitter, was the third player in the batting order, leftfielder Manny Ramirez was the cleanup, shortstop and eventual MVP Miguel Tejada was fifth and outfielder Vladimir Guerrero was sixth.
"Our country is a baseball power. With players like Miguel Tejada, David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez and others, we are going to keep the Dominican flag at the top," concluded A-Rod.
By Enrique Rojas
DETROIT -- Alex Rodriguez feels determined to help the Dominican Republic play a key role in baseball's first World Classic, which will take place in March.
That's why the Yankees third baseman has already decided which country he will represent in the most important international event in baseball's history.
"I am going to play for the Dominican Republic, and I am going to make the Dominicans feel proud," Rodriguez said during the All-Star Game.
"I want to say it out loud: I am Dominican," added Rodriguez.
Major League Baseball, the Players Union and the International Baseball Federation have already announced baseball's first World Classic on Monday, with 16 countries slated to participate.
Rodriguez is one of the many baseball players who has dual citizenship and has the choice of representing the country he prefers.
Rodriguez is son of Dominican parents, but was born in New York. Along with other Dominican players born in the U.S., Rodriguez could play for the United States if so chooses.
"I am Dominican, and that's the flag I will represent in the World Classic," said Rodriguez. "We will have a great team, and we will try to win the title so that all the Dominican people will feel proud of their ballplayers and of their own nationality," he said.
The Dominican Republic will share Pool D, which will play the first round in Florida, with Australia, Venezuela and Italy. The two best teams will advance to the quarterfinals.
The Yankees third baseman was one of the five Dominican players to occupy successive places in the batting order for the American League lineup at the All-Star Game. Rodriguez batted second, a place he has been comfortable with during his last two seasons with the Yankees.
David Ortiz, the designated hitter, was the third player in the batting order, leftfielder Manny Ramirez was the cleanup, shortstop and eventual MVP Miguel Tejada was fifth and outfielder Vladimir Guerrero was sixth.
"Our country is a baseball power. With players like Miguel Tejada, David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez and others, we are going to keep the Dominican flag at the top," concluded A-Rod.
I'll go one step further!!!
If he is an American citizen, why shoud he state outloud he is Dominicam? Not that he shouldn't be proud of he heritage but he is American bottom line! It amazes me how players, regardless of whether they were born in other countries, need to say how proud they are their originating country. What I mean is that if they are born in another country and are NOT a US citizen, it is understandable. But if they are a US citizen, making US mega millions, why do they need to raise their origination country's flag around? Is Pedro Martinez a US citizen? If so why did he do that when Boston won the world series? You didnt see Mark Mcguire or Barry Bonds carry and Irish or African flag when they broke home run records and I doubt you will Giambi jog around Yankee stadium carrying the Italian flag if the Yankees win the world series!!
Give me a break....if they dont like it...go back to their countries, forfeit your money MLB teams give you and live in the slums of some of the poorest countires!!!
If he is an American citizen, why shoud he state outloud he is Dominicam? Not that he shouldn't be proud of he heritage but he is American bottom line! It amazes me how players, regardless of whether they were born in other countries, need to say how proud they are their originating country. What I mean is that if they are born in another country and are NOT a US citizen, it is understandable. But if they are a US citizen, making US mega millions, why do they need to raise their origination country's flag around? Is Pedro Martinez a US citizen? If so why did he do that when Boston won the world series? You didnt see Mark Mcguire or Barry Bonds carry and Irish or African flag when they broke home run records and I doubt you will Giambi jog around Yankee stadium carrying the Italian flag if the Yankees win the world series!!
Give me a break....if they dont like it...go back to their countries, forfeit your money MLB teams give you and live in the slums of some of the poorest countires!!!
I totally agree
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Does he speak Spanish? Did his family make him speak Spanish? Does he give back to the community in the dr?
He is an American bottom line, people in these Third World countries, want to take credit for what somebody did outside of their country, and then categorize them..... well he is one of US.......NO,NO,NO.
It's funny when I see athletes, from Third World countries, try to go back and praise their culture, but meanwhile it's America, that gave them their prospering moments in life.
If it wasn't for the USA they would be nowhere, bottom-line. I'm sorry maybe Japan?
They come from horrible homes in a Third World country, and predominately no education, other than their athletic skills to have some hope, coming to USA.
And when they make it, they praised their Third World country..... hello.
Overall there are very inappreciative of what the USA has granted them.... a chance to make, stability in their lives, and their families. I'm sick of hearing how great their homeland is , and no respect to USA.
Louis Sojo for the Yankees, I seen an interview with him and he said, coming from Venezuela..... I just want to thank baseball in America for letting me play all these years, to provide for my family. I want to say again, thank you America.
Now do you see Pedro, Manny, saying that?
Sammy Sosa mother and him lived in poverty pretty much.... but I bet you they are a little bit better off now?
Overall athletes from other countries, do not know how good they have it. And then want to treat our people like ... a piece of ****, as for community work, free autographs, and being social out in public...... remember where you come from.
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Yankees44 said:
Does he speak Spanish? Did his family make him speak Spanish? Does he give back to the community in the dr?
He is an American bottom line, people in these Third World countries, want to take credit for what somebody did outside of their country, and then categorize them..... well he is one of US.......NO,NO,NO.
It's funny when I see athletes, from Third World countries, try to go back and praise their culture, but meanwhile it's America, that gave them their prospering moments in life.
If it wasn't for the USA they would be nowhere, bottom-line. I'm sorry maybe Japan?
They come from horrible homes in a Third World country, and predominately no education, other than their athletic skills to have some hope, coming to USA.
And when they make it, they praised their Third World country..... hello.
Overall there are very inappreciative of what the USA has granted them.... a chance to make, stability in their lives, and their families. I'm sick of hearing how great their homeland is , and no respect to USA.
Louis Sojo for the Yankees, I seen an interview with him and he said, coming from Venezuela..... I just want to thank baseball in America for letting me play all these years, to provide for my family. I want to say again, thank you America.
Now do you see Pedro, Manny, saying that?
Sammy Sosa mother and him lived in poverty pretty much.... but I bet you they are a little bit better off now?
Overall athletes from other countries, do not know how good they have it. And then want to treat our people like ... a piece of ****, as for community work, free autographs, and being social out in public...... remember where you come from.
easygoin said:Of the
Does he speak Spanish? Did his family make him speak Spanish? Does he give back to the community in the dr?
He is an American bottom line, people in these Third World countries, want to take credit for what somebody did outside of their country, and then categorize them..... well he is one of US.......NO,NO,NO.
It's funny when I see athletes, from Third World countries, try to go back and praise their culture, but meanwhile it's America, that gave them their prospering moments in life.
If it wasn't for the USA they would be nowhere, bottom-line. I'm sorry maybe Japan?
They come from horrible homes in a Third World country, and predominately no education, other than their athletic skills to have some hope, coming to USA.
And when they make it, they praised their Third World country..... hello.
Overall there are very inappreciative of what the USA has granted them.... a chance to make, stability in their lives, and their families. I'm sick of hearing how great their homeland is , and no respect to USA.
Louis Sojo for the Yankees, I seen an interview with him and he said, coming from Venezuela..... I just want to thank baseball in America for letting me play all these years, to provide for my family. I want to say again, thank you America.
Now do you see Pedro, Manny, saying that?
Sammy Sosa mother and him lived in poverty pretty much.... but I bet you they are a little bit better off now?
Overall athletes from other countries, do not know how good they have it. And then want to treat our people like ... a piece of ****, as for community work, free autographs, and being social out in public...... remember where you come from.
Making money is not the only thing that can make you happy. Thats the only thing the US can really offer. You wouldn't thank the US for the second highest divorce rate in the world.
When they show appreciation for their "mother country", remember, the US calls England the Mother country.
Those Dominicans, or those of Dominican descent are thinking about their family and reflecting on their childhood when they were in DR.
You basically want them to say, literally, thank you for the "money" I was able to make. There is more to life.
I actually heard Pedro an Sammy Sosa say thanks to America. Never heard Manny, but if he was all American, he wouldn't say it either. That is just his personality.
They should thank their parents more than anything. At least thats what most American atheletes do. I very rarely hear an American Athelete say, Thanks America. Have you, on a regular basis?
If that is a requirement by MLB, than they should add that into their Bi-Laws.
Or we should make an ammendment to the constitution.
"To be drafted while a foreign national, or born here from foreign nationals, you must say "thank you America" if you become rich. If you just become rich as a foreign national you should say "thank you America" also"
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First off
Divorce has nothing to do with it. second, overall they do not appreciate what they have, from making money in the USA.
Sure some of them, should thank their parents, because all Latin countries are very tight.
Aren't the parents still in there country , meanwhile the child is making big money, meaning single A... to the majors. Who gave them the opportunity to be in that situation?
If the GRASS is so green..... stay there, and ENJOY, and because you love your parents, you don't CARE about the money..... stay home.
sancochojoe said:
Divorce has nothing to do with it.
second, overall they do not appreciate what they have, from making money in the USA.Sure some of them, should thank their parents, because all Latin countries are very tight.
Aren't the parents still in there country , meanwhile the child is making big money, meaning single A... to the majors. Who gave them the opportunity to be in that situation?
If the GRASS is so green..... stay there, and ENJOY, and because you love your parents, you don't CARE about the money..... stay home.
I agree with you 100% every wants talk bad about the USA especially people that live here"my uncle is one of those persons" I told him if he does not like here go back to Panama and he says no this is my home if it is than you should at least give the USA credit for giving you a chance to make a better life for your self and family.easygoin said:Divorce has nothing to do with it.
Sure some of them, should thank their parents, because all Latin countries are very tight.
Aren't the parents still in there country , meanwhile the child is making big money, meaning single A... to the majors. Who gave them the opportunity to be in that situation?
If the GRASS is so green..... stay there, and ENJOY, and because you love your parents, you don't CARE about the money..... stay home.
I think that many immigrants today don't care about America they just want to come and make money, plain and simple. They will claim and represent their native land until a situation arises where it benefits them to be an American. That's just the state of the country. I guarantee that if A-rod or anyone with dual citizenship got arrested for something he wouldn't say a thing about being Dominican but would only want to be treated as an American citizen.
That's true.
And to add, Americans travel to Saudi Arabia and Alaska in the thousands to drill for oil, because the money is good that's all.
That's how America was born, from poor immigrants looking for a better life for themselves and families, the Irish, Jewish, Italian, West-Indian, Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, and now its the Dominicans turn. The 2nd generation immigrants (the ones born here) are usually the ones assimilated into american culture.fortywater said:
And to add, Americans travel to Saudi Arabia and Alaska in the thousands to drill for oil, because the money is good that's all.
easygoin said:Divorce has nothing to do with it.
Sure some of them, should thank their parents, because all Latin countries are very tight.
Aren't the parents still in there country , meanwhile the child is making big money, meaning single A... to the majors. Who gave them the opportunity to be in that situation?
If the GRASS is so green..... stay there, and ENJOY, and because you love your parents, you don't CARE about the money..... stay home.
The point is they don't have to thank America for jack. A company hired them, not America. They can thank MLB if they want to, but major league baseball flew to those countries LOOKING FOR NON AMERICANS. Those Dominicans didn't mail in resumes. Duh. If anything, Americans and MLB shoud thank these foreigners for having the ability to produce exciting talent not found in America. And if you say, there is talent in America, then why is MLB spending millions to go elsewhere to find them. Oh, let me guess. Cheap labor. I would say most of the highest paid players are the foreigners. Look it up. Almost 30% of players in MLB are latino and the percentage is higher that are starters. I would also say, if it wasn't for them, you would be watching scrubs playing. I guess you should thank Japan for your Japanese car you drive, and china for all the appliances you use. Stop asking for credit for every little thing somebody else does in their life. They don't have to answer to you. You won't be there if they get into an accident, or cut from the team. The only people standing next to them in their hospital bed or waiting at the airport is their family and not some angry american fan looking for thanks.
sancochojoe said:
Companies hiring them, now that's funny.
ownership of Major league baseball teams are Americans. Major league baseball organization... is American, so I would say it is America.As far as American owners in Latin countries.. because there some talent there.
But don't forget in the USA we play many sports not just baseball. And if the kid sees he has no chance, he does not pursue it. Not like in Latin countries where they told they're going to be great in America.
As far as talent, the Latin countries do have talent, and I respect that very much.
30% I had to laugh. Top 25 salaries ,4 are Latinos, a little bit under 30% but, I knew it even before you posted, but I checked just for you.
scrubs playing that's another funny one. Take the top 20 pitchers and see how many are American, no take the top 25,30,35.
Like I said you do have some talent here, and I think you should come here and spend some DR money and buy a ticket, hotdog, and a cold beer and watch Americas favorite past time on a Sunday afternoon. :nervous: :nervous:
Just respect where you come from and respect who fills your pockets.
it doesn't hurt to say thank you. Thread Cancer
sancochojoe & easygoin, you "guys" kill threads like drunks kill beers.
They suck the life right out of them.
It's bad enough you say/type everything you think, but then to quote each others drivel is just pure lunacy.
How about some keyboard chemo for these two?
sancochojoe & easygoin, you "guys" kill threads like drunks kill beers.
They suck the life right out of them.
It's bad enough you say/type everything you think, but then to quote each others drivel is just pure lunacy.
How about some keyboard chemo for these two?
easygoin said:Companies hiring them, now that's funny.
As far as American owners in Latin countries.. because there some talent there.
But don't forget in the USA we play many sports not just baseball. And if the kid sees he has no chance, he does not pursue it. Not like in Latin countries where they told they're going to be great in America.
As far as talent, the Latin countries do have talent, and I respect that very much.
30% I had to laugh. Top 25 salaries ,4 are Latinos, a little bit under 30% but, I knew it even before you posted, but I checked just for you.
scrubs playing that's another funny one. Take the top 20 pitchers and see how many are American, no take the top 25,30,35.
Like I said you do have some talent here, and I think you should come here and spend some DR money and buy a ticket, hotdog, and a cold beer and watch Americas favorite past time on a Sunday afternoon. :nervous: :nervous:
Just respect where you come from and respect who fills your pockets.
First, what are you talking about Cleef. God. Its about A-Rod who is a baseball player. You can't talk about A-Rod without painting a picture of his world, which is baseball. Come on. Nobody is calling anybody names. This is a clean thread.
easygoin
I had to take a look, man and you got it wrong as well. You were obviously selective or you didn't know some were latinos.
Rank order - 24% top 25
37% top 35
making over 10 million a year.
That is down right impressive man. Especially for Dominicans. They are getting paid.
1. A-Rod Domincano
3. Manny Ramirez Dominicano
8. Sammy Sosa Dominicano
18 Bobby Abreu Venezuela
23. Vladimir Guerrero Dominicano
24. Bernie Williams Puerto Rican
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26 Carlos Beltran Puerto Rican
28 Adrian Beltre Dominican
30t Jorge Posada Puerto Rican
30t Albert Pujols Dominican
30t Javier Vazquez Puerto Rican
34 Pedro Martinez Dominican
35 Miguel Tejada Dominican
Where are there signs that latinos are disprespecting anybody. A-Rod voiced to the public he wanted to play for DR, and people go in an uproar. There is no disrespect. He is respecting his mother who is a Dominicana, he represents more than what borders tell him and what fans think he should do.
Baseball is a game,
Why did you pick only catchers? There are 9 positions on the field.
So your saying I would have to send an email to the CEO of my company and thank him for paying for my livelyhood. What soapbox are you on. Stop trying to squeeze any little excuse to get them to do what you want them to do and force them to say "thank you America".
They are entertainers, nothing more. If you as a fan don't pay, they don't play. Simple as that.
Looking at that list, you can see why A-Rod would pick DR to play in, though. That is a strong lineup if you ask me. Pure talent. I love watching good WORLD talent. Only then can you use the term, "best in the world" when everybody plays. Its not America's past time any more. Football has that locked down, if you ask me. Especially on Sundays and I'm a diehard baseball fan, that loves the game for the game. I don't care where the players come from.
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