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The acknowledgement of my misread and correction have already been posted. I was thinking "Noord". I guess I spent too much time there.
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another expat murdered
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Europeans and Dominicans don't Tip?
and such makes 'em primary targets for Murder, 'eeh?
to the Western Europeans,
they Tip very well, their Tips are included in any Bill they Pay at any Service providing location/restaurant etc, and that Tip goes straight to the Person who provided the service, and at the usual Places like a restaurant/bar etc it is absolutely usual to leave an extra Tip on top of the anyways included Tip on the Table, at least that's usual where I grew up in good ole western Germany.
Dominicans,
the same, sitting in a good restaurant or having Fun at a good Bar(not talking some Colado Beers here) the also Dominicans leave a Tip on topof the prior in the Bill included Tip.
for both all the whole 9Yards from 10-20% is the usual rate, at least for the ones hanging out with Me the last good 15 years in the DR, foreigners and locals alike.
the usual system in the US been described in prior postings, no need to double, I spent more than 6 years of my Life throughout the USA and I am used to that, too. when at a new place, get used to it.
the tragic Murder case of the OP is sure not a common every Day ocurrance, simple thefts do usually not end up by taking the Victim apart and Burn it or dump the pieces on a dumpster, that sounds much more as a Crime with more than simple theft involved, and it sure had nothing to do with His Tipping behaviors.
foreigners highly respected, even overly protected down here on the Isle, yes, those ole Days happened, but back in the day there have been just a Few, they been mostly very well off, the Country welcomed any assitance from the outside, go figure why Immigrations Laws/Rules are so relaxed and been even more relaxed/non existend enforced 2 decades back?
today's foreigners are not any rare spezies on DR Streets, Expats, Sexpats and tourists are present all around, over all Beaches, in the highest Mountains, everywhere, so the Charm of a rare to protect Spezies is since very long Gone.
and today's large number of 'the new spezies' is sorrily by far not as most to be described as a big contribution to the country's progress, with large number of People from where ever come's always also a good number of trash, so today a Foreigner will not get any extra protection just because he is a foreigner, the foreigner of today has to earn the Country's/Neighbourhood's respect first to be included in the protected spezies program, the protection progrfam that is in every good neighbourhood present for the "Neighbours", in such case Locals and foreigners alike.
the Problem of the Family seems to me to be that they life in the Netherlands/Holland but the Victim gave up his permanent residency Status for that country, so I would guess the only Country in charge for bringing him back on European Soil would be his birthcountry Belgium.
sad for a Family to loose a Member that way,
and worse to be confronted with such burocratic extra hurdles additionally to the anyways hard time they go through.
all the best to the Family to get it solved at best possible
Mike
and such makes 'em primary targets for Murder, 'eeh?
to the Western Europeans,
they Tip very well, their Tips are included in any Bill they Pay at any Service providing location/restaurant etc, and that Tip goes straight to the Person who provided the service, and at the usual Places like a restaurant/bar etc it is absolutely usual to leave an extra Tip on top of the anyways included Tip on the Table, at least that's usual where I grew up in good ole western Germany.
Dominicans,
the same, sitting in a good restaurant or having Fun at a good Bar(not talking some Colado Beers here) the also Dominicans leave a Tip on topof the prior in the Bill included Tip.
for both all the whole 9Yards from 10-20% is the usual rate, at least for the ones hanging out with Me the last good 15 years in the DR, foreigners and locals alike.
the usual system in the US been described in prior postings, no need to double, I spent more than 6 years of my Life throughout the USA and I am used to that, too. when at a new place, get used to it.
the tragic Murder case of the OP is sure not a common every Day ocurrance, simple thefts do usually not end up by taking the Victim apart and Burn it or dump the pieces on a dumpster, that sounds much more as a Crime with more than simple theft involved, and it sure had nothing to do with His Tipping behaviors.
foreigners highly respected, even overly protected down here on the Isle, yes, those ole Days happened, but back in the day there have been just a Few, they been mostly very well off, the Country welcomed any assitance from the outside, go figure why Immigrations Laws/Rules are so relaxed and been even more relaxed/non existend enforced 2 decades back?
today's foreigners are not any rare spezies on DR Streets, Expats, Sexpats and tourists are present all around, over all Beaches, in the highest Mountains, everywhere, so the Charm of a rare to protect Spezies is since very long Gone.
and today's large number of 'the new spezies' is sorrily by far not as most to be described as a big contribution to the country's progress, with large number of People from where ever come's always also a good number of trash, so today a Foreigner will not get any extra protection just because he is a foreigner, the foreigner of today has to earn the Country's/Neighbourhood's respect first to be included in the protected spezies program, the protection progrfam that is in every good neighbourhood present for the "Neighbours", in such case Locals and foreigners alike.
the Problem of the Family seems to me to be that they life in the Netherlands/Holland but the Victim gave up his permanent residency Status for that country, so I would guess the only Country in charge for bringing him back on European Soil would be his birthcountry Belgium.
sad for a Family to loose a Member that way,
and worse to be confronted with such burocratic extra hurdles additionally to the anyways hard time they go through.
all the best to the Family to get it solved at best possible
Mike
I was hoping this was a "Google" translator mistake. Is this what you translate it to mean from the Dutch?
This is the most disturbing part of what I've read about the death from this thread. This is NOT anything I've ever heard of happening in the DR, and as another poster stated seems to be gang, drug related, or someone sending a message.
and to get cut in pieces and Burnt does not just happen to bad tipping Europeans
Encuentran descuartizado y quemado el cad?ver de un hombre joven - Hoy Digital
Mike
Encuentran descuartizado y quemado el cad?ver de un hombre joven - Hoy Digital
Mike
Guess it is happening. What next? Mass graves, decapatations, drive-bys through quincenaras? (a la Mexico).
Agree Mike, that while we "imagine" what could have lead to this unfortunate killing, I doubt that bad tipping had anything to do with it.
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I want to underline that my earlier statement was a general statement ahout how some gangs seem to operate. I know nothing about this current case. Having said that I do think that gangs these days think they can get away with anything. This is a tragic event. My condolences to the family.
I want to underline that my earlier statement was a general statement ahout how some gangs seem to operate. I know nothing about this current case. Having said that I do think that gangs these days think they can get away with anything. This is a tragic event. My condolences to the family.
Decap is a new thing. Guys were taking double payment and getting the Mark to at dead while they took the obvious photos. Now for payment you have to butcher people and spread the limbs to prove you have done the job. ****, but that is why people are butchered, someone paying another to do the job, he needs photo proof!
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