Bella Terra Mall. Santiago.

[minerva_feliz]

Soon at Bella Terra Mall:

TOMS.... Now that's progress!

So great that the Santiago elite will now be able to buy trendy, marketing ploy shoes and feel good about themselves when they could use that money to buy 10 pair of fake converse for the kids two barrios over who miss school because they don't have decent shoes to wear.

TOMS Shoes: Good Marketing

 

[dv8]

i checked their website. ugly looking s**t! and their wedding "collection"... please. no woman in DR will ever wear this.

 

[como vegano]

I'm not super familiar with Santiago, but the biggest question that comes to my mind goes something like this: Where would you even put "The Mall." Is there a defined downtown area? If there is I've never been there. There's some buzz about the monument being a central spot, but the layout doesn't seem like what I'd expect from a proper city like Chicago, or even a smaller city like Seattle, San Diego, Portland, or Indy. Usually there's a center... a historic downtown... a square or a park.

To be fair Santiago isn't as big as the other cities listed, but where would one even develop such a place?

 

[Frank the Tank]

I'm not super familiar with Santiago, but the biggest question that comes to my mind goes something like this: Where would you even put "The Mall." Is there a defined downtown area? If there is I've never been there. There's some buzz about the monument being a central spot, but the layout doesn't seem like what I'd expect from a proper city like Chicago, or even a smaller city like Seattle, San Diego, Portland, or Indy. Usually there's a center... a historic downtown... a square or a park.

To be fair Santiago isn't as big as the other cities listed, but where would one even develop such a place?

There are several malls in Santiago. None near the Monument.

 

[PICHARDO]

i would really like to know what is going on in those malls. i went to jumbo last moth, they have been open for ages and still empty. there are only few shops and most units stand empty and dark, not even finished (floors, cement etc).

La envidia no mata, pero mortifica...

 

[PICHARDO]

TOMS.... Now that's progress!

So great that the Santiago elite will now be able to buy trendy, marketing ploy shoes and feel good about themselves when they could use that money to buy 10 pair of fake converse for the kids two barrios over who miss school because they don't have decent shoes to wear.

TOMS Shoes: Good Marketing

So I guess all kids in the ole usa and uk never have to worry about wearing good shoes???


lol

 

[dv8]

La envidia no mata, pero mortifica...

as in what? i am jealous of the super beautiful jumbo and therefore telling lies about it?
or others are too scared to invest in such a great shopping center?

 

[minerva_feliz]

So I guess all kids in the ole usa and uk never have to worry about wearing good shoes???


lol

Huh? Read the link about Toms. Their premise is that for every pair of [ugly, overpriced, made in China] shoes that someone buys, they donate one pair to poor children in a developing country.

No, there are not proportionally as many children who worry about having shoes to go to school in the US or UK as in the DR. DUH.

"lol" indeed.

 

[PICHARDO]

Huh? Read the link about Toms. Their premise is that for every pair of [ugly, overpriced, made in China] shoes that someone buys, they donate one pair to poor children in a developing country.

No, there are not proportionally as many children who worry about having shoes to go to school in the US or UK as in the DR. DUH.

"lol" indeed.

Think again!

Whilst "poverty" levels are far lower in those listed first world nations per population statistics, the exact number of children living in poverty is far and beyond that of the ones in the DR. That's to say that at any given time there are MORE children by head count living in poverty in those two nations to that by head count in the DR... So by any logical estimate, there are more kids in those nations facing more problems securing shoes than those in the DR...

LOL!!!

and


LOL!!!


* If the ole USA and UK dismantled their funding for poor families and kids in their budgets, the poverty would be worst than in the DR and much harder to swallow as well!

 

[PICHARDO]

as in what? i am jealous of the super beautiful jumbo and therefore telling lies about it?
or others are too scared to invest in such a great shopping center?

Jumbo empty? LOL~~~~~~~~!!!

Te mortifica eh?

LOL!!!!

 

[minerva_feliz]

Think again!

Whilst "poverty" levels are far lower in those listed first world nations per population statistics, the exact number of children living in poverty is far and beyond that of the ones in the DR. That's to say that at any given time there are MORE children by head count living in poverty in those two nations to that by head count in the DR... So by any logical estimate, there are more kids in those nations facing more problems securing shoes than those in the DR...

LOL!!!

and


LOL!!!


* If the ole USA and UK dismantled their funding for poor families and kids in their budgets, the poverty would be worst than in the DR and much harder to swallow as well!

I said PROPORTIONALLY...not referring to absolute numbers. Didn't see that?

Inappropriate, frequent laughter is a symptom of more than a few mental disorders listed in the DSM. You should get yourself checked out. Seems like you've been delusional for quite a while now (hallucinating people in malls, children in quality schools, super professional police force, etc.), but there's always hope.

(LOL...laughing at you, not with you)

 

[PICHARDO]

I said PROPORTIONALLY...not referring to absolute numbers. Didn't see that?

(LOL...laughing at you, not with you)

Read your own post and discern it well before you come back with such flabby excuse...

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[NALs]

double post, see below.

 

[NALs]

I said PROPORTIONALLY...not referring to absolute numbers. Didn't see that?

Inappropriate, frequent laughter is a symptom of more than a few mental disorders listed in the DSM. You should get yourself checked out. Seems like you've been delusional for quite a while now (hallucinating people in malls, children in quality schools, super professional police force, etc.), but there's always hope.

(LOL...laughing at you, not with you)

Do you know how those relative numbers have changed in the last say 50 years?

What percentage of Dominican children were barefoot in 1960 vs 2011?

Given the trend, what can be expected in the next 10, 20, 50 years?

I really don't understand what is the issue some people here have with any sign of the DR progressing.

 

[donP]

No more barefoot

What percentage of Dominican children were barefoot in 1960 vs 2011?
Given the trend, what can be expected in the next 10, 20, 50 years?

Well, the other day I saw a barrio centipede with shoes on all feet... :classic:

donP

 

[PICHARDO]

well, the other day i saw a barrio centipede with shoes on all feet... :classic:

Donp

lol!!!

 

[dv8]

Jumbo empty? LOL~~~~~~~~!!!

Te mortifica eh?

LOL!!!!

please, dude, you are not even funny, just like all other fanatics. jumbo as in one shop - yes, there are people. jumbo as in the mall - empty like kuntdashian soul.
no reason for me to get jealous, i do not own bella terra mall in santiago to be crave the crowds flocking numerous shops in jumbo mall....

 

[minerva_feliz]

Do you know how those relative numbers have changed in the last say 50 years? Decreased

What percentage of Dominican children were barefoot in 1960 vs 2011? A lower one

Given the trend, what can be expected in the next 10, 20, 50 years? Fewer children living in poverty

I really don't understand what is the issue some people here have with any sign of the DR progressing.

Objective reality: currently, there are far too many children in the DR without decent shoes. This has nothing to do with having an "issue" with progress. On the contrary, that is what I would hope for. That is precisely why I criticize TOMS Shoes. The effectiveness and impact of their BOGO shoe charity campaign has been shredded apart by countless experts and commentators (google it). There is an entire counter campaign movement against the company.

So yes, I think it's disgusting that this business will operate in the DR, itself a developing country (fact), where rich kids can spend their parents money on some trendy shoes, resulting in some poor kid in Africa being sent some cheap TOMS shoes.

Progress? Support the local shoe market. Buy a pair of shoes, anywhere else, for half the price, then spend the rest on several pair of shoes bought locally, and give them to poor kids in the DR.

But then your friends won't see you have a TOMS label on your shoes and won't be able to gauge your generosity and philanthropic interests...:tired:

 

[SantiagoDR]

Trip Report - Bella Terra Mall - A Dominican Oasis

Bella Terra Mall - The Invisible Mall

Well today I had to go to Bella Terra Mall to pick up my new insurance card.
I went with another DR1'er who was also picking up his insurance card.

It was roughly a little after 10am which probably explains why the mall was still deserted.
The "Rich and Famous" that go there were probably still sleeping.

The place was like an Oasis, looked great from a distance, a mirage up close.
As we approached many of the "Store Fronts", they turned into empty, unfinished holes in the wall.

As we arrived there, my senior moment memory suddenly recalled that I was actually outside the mall once before, about a year(?) ago when I waited for my wife to go in and pick up her mother's insurance card. It must have definitely been a senior moment back then as I sure the hell did not realize I was in the presence of the great "Bella Terra Mall". As a matter of fact, neither did my wife, in the past year, after seeing signs advertising the mall, I asked if she knew where it was, and she said "NO".

(Note: I only knew where it was from reading this thread)

We walked to the mall after parking at Supermercado Nacional as I don't like parking in underground parking lots for security reasons.

After exploring the mall(?) we got the feeling that it was more likely that we might get mugged in the deserted mall then in the underground parking lot. We made one turn and found ourselves walking down a dead end deserted wing. Very lonely and isolated feeling.

Well, that was our first and most probably the last trip to the mighty Bella Terra Mall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Don

 

[rsg]

Bella Terra Mall - The Invisible Mall

Well today I had to go to Bella Terra Mall to pick up my new insurance card.
I went with another DR1'er who was also picking up his insurance card.

It was roughly a little after 10am which probably explains why the mall was still deserted.
The "Rich and Famous" that go there were probably still sleeping.

The place was like an Oasis, looked great from a distance, a mirage up close.
As we approached many of the "Store Fronts", they turned into empty, unfinished holes in the wall.

As we arrived there, my senior moment memory suddenly recalled that I was actually outside the mall once before, about a year(?) ago when I waited for my wife to go in and pick up her mother's insurance card. It must have definitely been a senior moment back then as I sure the hell did not realize I was in the presence of the great "Bella Terra Mall". As a matter of fact, neither did my wife, in the past year, after seeing signs advertising the mall, I asked if she knew where it was, and she said "NO".

(Note: I only knew where it was from reading this thread)

We walked to the mall after parking at Supermercado Nacional as I don't like parking in underground parking lots for security reasons.

After exploring the mall(?) we got the feeling that it was more likely that we might get mugged in the deserted mall then in the underground parking lot. We made one turn and found ourselves walking down a dead end deserted wing. Very lonely and isolated feeling.

Well, that was our first and most probably the last trip to the mighty Bella Terra Mall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Don

Bad boy bad boy what ya gonna do SantiagoDr, when Mr. Pichardo comes looking for you:rambo: