Dominican Immigration has extended the stay for tourist

alexw

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That would be very good news if true. But still no solution for the very many people who come here for six months every year.

First 30 days were a problem, now 4 months is a problem, then you want 6 months, why not just get residency if you want to be there 6 months a year? At that point you're basically a citizen. 4 months is sufficient for a snowbird.
 

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First 30 days were a problem, now 4 months is a problem, then you want 6 months, why not just get residency if you want to be there 6 months a year? At that point you're basically a citizen. 4 months is sufficient for a snowbird.

The son of my cousin is on vacations here, he came with US Passport, I asked her how many days will stay and he will be here for a month and few days, when I said to her well he will have to pay 2,500.00 as exit fee because the turist card is good only for 30 days, she started to complain, and I just told well you better get his Dominican Citizenship and problem will be solved, he is not Dominican yet to come and stay forever, is starting to work the same way like when Dominicans overstay their visas traveling to USA.
 

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First 30 days were a problem, now 4 months is a problem, then you want 6 months, why not just get residency if you want to be there 6 months a year? At that point you're basically a citizen. 4 months is sufficient for a snowbird.

Many snowbirds spend 6 months at home and 6 months (give or take a day or two based upon laws for medical coverage and taxes in their home countries). But yes, even up to 4 months easily done would help a great deal.
 

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I did not see where this can be done in Puerto Plata.

It will not really change behavior unless and until they discontinue the exit fines (aka fees) and deny re-entry to all that do not follow what was always the law.
In one of the FB groups someone asked attorney Maria Abreau if this could be done in Puerto Plata and she responded "Yes".
 

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If US citizen has been in the DR four 5 years, has received a new passport one year ago and now wants to start the residency process...

If he now goes back to usa will he be barred from re-entry?

Should / can he sneak out through a ferry to PR? Avoiding fine and overstay issue?

His current lawyer does not seem to be on the ball. I already told him to use Guzman
 
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Or Abreu... I think someone from her office mentioned that there is some possibility to start residency process from within the DR by sending passport to Dominican embassy abroad by courier, or something like that...

Or just use Doctora Candy (Ramona) ... and have a smoother sailing.

In any case I would definitely use some heavy weight in such case as your friend's, a regular lawyer most likely will not cut it.

Your friend has now several (3) heavyweight options... And to each one suits a different lawyer attitude / form of working / treating clients / communications etc.
 

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If US citizen has been in the DR four 5 years, has received a new passport one year ago and now wants to start the residency process...

If he now goes back to usa will he be barred from re-entry?

Should / can he sneak out through a ferry to PR? Avoiding fine and overstay issue?

His current lawyer does not seem to be on the ball. I already told him to use Guzman

I'd say he'd probably be ok, but that's the problem here - there's no clear answers to anything! Tell him again to use Guzman!
 

Riva_31

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I'd say he'd probably be ok, but that's the problem here - there's no clear answers to anything! Tell him again to use Guzman!

The new inmigration system makes harder to hide information, 5 years here, foreigner, not fingerprint scanned, for sure they will find out how long have you been here and will make you pay the fine for the 5 years

Also the rules in new inmigration law says that you can start the process of residence here, but to finish it you have to go out of the country and wait in your homecountry the finalization of the process. so is impossible that you send your passport by currier.
 

william webster

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Ideally, for the extended stays - one would apply in the home country... deposit the travel dates & get the permit.
Done before you start...

The office in SD has been very busy lately - my 4 yr renewal took longer than expected due to overload
My wife's actually.

Doing extensions in advance , out of country would alleviate this a bit -- think I !! Creo yo !!
 

Riva_31

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Ideally, for the extended stays - one would apply in the home country... deposit the travel dates & get the permit.
Done before you start...

The office in SD has been very busy lately - my 4 yr renewal took longer than expected due to overload
My wife's actually.

Doing extensions in advance , out of country would alleviate this a bit -- think I !! Creo yo !!

Tecnically you could be able to do it before to come as now the 10.00 dollars turist card that let you stay for 30 days you have it already paid for, but remember this is Dominican Republc and you know what I mean.
 

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The new inmigration system makes harder to hide information, 5 years here, foreigner, not fingerprint scanned, for sure they will find out how long have you been here and will make you pay the fine for the 5 years

Also the rules in new inmigration law says that you can start the process of residence here, but to finish it you have to go out of the country and wait in your homecountry the finalization of the process. so is impossible that you send your passport by currier.

Where does it say you :

1) Can start the residency process here?
2) Have to wait for finalization in your home country?

What I have seen is that to start the residency process you go to your home country, get a residency visa in your home country while gathering your documents for submitting the proper paperwork, then enter the DR with that visa in your passport, and within 30 days start your residency which will take however long it takes to be approved while you wait in the DR for it. Has that changed?
 

cavok

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The new inmigration system makes harder to hide information, 5 years here, foreigner, not fingerprint scanned, for sure they will find out how long have you been here and will make you pay the fine for the 5 years

Also the rules in new inmigration law says that you can start the process of residence here, but to finish it you have to go out of the country and wait in your homecountry the finalization of the process. so is impossible that you send your passport by currier.

Where does it say you :

1) Can start the residency process here?
2) Have to wait for finalization in your home country?

What I have seen is that to start the residency process you go to your home country, get a residency visa in your home country while gathering your documents for submitting the proper paperwork, then enter the DR with that visa in your passport, and within 30 days start your residency which will take however long it takes to be approved while you wait in the DR for it. Has that changed?

A friend of mine just started his residency. The lawyer he is using does residencies all the time. He has to go back to Florida and to the DR consulate in Miami to start his residency.
 

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First 30 days were a problem, now 4 months is a problem, then you want 6 months, why not just get residency if you want to be there 6 months a year? At that point you're basically a citizen. 4 months is sufficient for a snowbird.

I don't know why you have the right to say how many months is sufficient for a snowbird. I have many clients and friends who have been coming here for six months for many years. Many would just go elsewhere if they could not stay for that time without jumping through Residency hoops, to the detriment of the Dominican economy - especially the north coast.
 

william webster

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A friend of mine just started his residency. The lawyer he is using does residencies all the time. He has to go back to Florida and to the DR consulate in Miami to start his residency.

Probably correct --
the 'Do It From the DR' was part of the now gone Amnesty Deal....as I remember

Normal applicants do it from the home country --- same as US visas were.
 

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I don't know why you have the right to say how many months is sufficient for a snowbird. I have many clients and friends who have been coming here for six months for many years. Many would just go elsewhere if they could not stay for that time without jumping through Residency hoops, to the detriment of the Dominican economy - especially the north coast.

It's not a right, it's pretty much a statement that reflects the current reality. "No one " cares about the sensibilities of the snowbirds, except maybe DR landlords and businesses. Most locals don't care, foreign residents certainly don't care (and probably appreciate fewer of these people in line at the store and on the roads) and the Govt doesn't seem to care much.

Can/USA has a six month visit allowance between the two countries as a standard and perhaps other countries allow visitors to stay for six months, but as far as I am concerned, if you are in a country for more than 4 months (sounds reasonable to me), that person is no longer a tourist in the true sense of the word. They de facto live in that country and should fall into a different category of visitor.

I'm not saying six month stayers should have to get residency, but I do believe their entry requirements should be more detailed and encompassing than those for a simple tourist. I would expect six monthers to have health insurance, have to post repatriation insurance and possess a formal visa of some sort. There also needs to be a way for these long term visitors to stay here without breaking a whole bunch of other laws and rules - like driving on a foreign license past 90 days (or whatever the time is), being able to do banking without a hassle, establish service contracts for utilities, cable/phone etc.

This ball is clearly in the govt's court with respect to how they proceed. I don't care at all if the snowbirds go elsewhere, good riddance I say. Less chance for me to get sick with a N.A. Flu or cold, more seats at the local bar and as I said, less people competing for the same limited supply of premium grocery items.

Intentionally choosing to come to a place to spend more time than you are allowed just because it may be cheap and possible to get away with is not the type of callous person (decision maker) I want running around my neighborhood or town. I'm all for making it possible to do, just that I want all those I encounter to be playing by the same rules, to be respectful of those rules and those who already play by them.
 

william webster

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hahaha Buster...
careful you'll play into the hands of those who sneer at a legal resident as a 'Dummy' or 'Sucker'

It's all personal preference - comfort level