Electric Cars in the DR

[playacaribe2]

Normally we see things similarly, but that in the DR? Not happening any time soon. As in decades from now. That is how I see reality.

Soon? Not very likely. But in the next 10-20 years...................you will be amazed.

Would that be 10% to 20% of people that have cars now who actually put them in secure locations with access to power? I don't see that many garages when I am in Santo Trafficjam nor in Santiago. Where most of the people and most of the cars are.

Of course those with garages and/or private off street parking will be the early adopters.......because quite frankly they will initially likely be the only ones able to afford the luxury of having an EV.

Technology will evolve and change......that is a given. And not everyone will be able to afford to own an EV.......just as there are many who cannot afford a car now. In the DR, that is where the electric pasolas will have the most profound future effects.

I do hope they build many natural gas power plants here to provide more energy security . And finally get rid of the EDE's once and for all.

You would think they would.................but who knows. They are talking about building a refinery for oil in Guyana. They would be better off securing long term LNG shipments to provide a steady source of fuel for the power plants.

That would appear to make the most sense...............but then you have to remember common sense sometimes goes out the window in the DR.............taking a back seat to who/what/how can the most money be made by some in power.

Respectfully,
Playacaribe2

 

[playacaribe2]

Here is a nightmare story of leaving your EV at the airport. You can read it, but here is the gist.

"Today I'm going to show you why, because I've landed right back from New York here in London, and now I'm faced with a bit of a dilemma because the car is not fully charged."


The driver explained that he charged the car before driving to the airport but it didn't have enough power left to get him home.

I've owned my EV for a year but 'despise it' - I can't even make a trip home

A DRIVER has expressed strong feelings against his electric vehicle and says that dealing with other EV owners can get hectic. The England-based YouTube creator said that he despises his EV and tha…

www.the-sun.com

What a nightmare! The car is not fully charged. He actually had to stop and charge his car.

Talk about sensationalism................something the The Sun tends to be known for.

Of course the article does not mention how long he was gone for. Nor does it point out that over time all rechargeable batteries lose there charge.............ditto even conventional batteries.

If he despises it that much he should sell it........................and there will likely be no shortage of takers for his luxury Porsche Taycan. I know of several people in the DR that are waiting for a good used one to be available. Used 2020's are still commanding $75k and up.

Respectfully,
Playacaribe2

 

[LosSantanas954]

Here is a nightmare story of leaving your EV at the airport. You can read it, but here is the gist.

"Today I'm going to show you why, because I've landed right back from New York here in London, and now I'm faced with a bit of a dilemma because the car is not fully charged."


The driver explained that he charged the car before driving to the airport but it didn't have enough power left to get him home.

I've owned my EV for a year but 'despise it' - I can't even make a trip home

A DRIVER has expressed strong feelings against his electric vehicle and says that dealing with other EV owners can get hectic. The England-based YouTube creator said that he despises his EV and tha…

www.the-sun.com

not to sound like a tesla fan boy but you have to give it up to them. I read the article and when i saw that it was a porsche I immediately said to myself "ah thats why". I live about 16miles from the airport, and i also have left my vehicle for days at a time. I've never had an issue with range and not being able to get to my destination and back, again this is with my previous tesla which has a much larger and reliable super charging network. And even if i did have to stop somewhere to charge it would take about 20-30 mins to get the vehicle from 15% to 80-90%. And like someone mentioned above i can just relax in my car, with the ac cranked and watch an episode of my fav netfilx show.
In a non-tesla ev i would be a bit more worried. I have yet to go on any long trips in the rivian, but i know if i do i have to put a bit more planning with where we plan on stopping to charge.

 

[NALs]

Ironically (or maybe it isn’t ironic at all? Hmm…), today José Peguero uploads a new video about Rivian in the DR. lol

PS. This is the SUV which is now in the DR, before it was the pick up.

 

[LosSantanas954]

i'm very curious to know what steps him, or the shipping company he uses, did to prevent any battery or charging issues while in transport. I know when I spoke to him about getting my R1S over there he mentioned he would coordinate the shipping container for the vehicle and my belongings, only thing i would need would be to get a company to ship it over

 

[fuchs4d]

EV's may have been born out of a save the planet mindset

Came across this opinion of why governments push EV despite the fact they make no sense at all and actually harm the environment more than cars with modern combustion engines.

With advanced autonomous cars it makes no sense anymore to own a car. You call a computer that sends a autonomous car that gets you where you want and then services the next customer.
The money side wants to offer this kind of service.
Own nothing and be happy.
Autonomous cars can easyly recharge or change battery packs.
It is way too complicated to have a car that can refill gasoline, so EVs are needed to have everyone pay per drive and to control all their movements and keep them confined.

Not sure, however this is the only explanation that makes sense to me.

Alexander

 

[slowmo]

Came across this opinion of why governments push EV despite the fact they make no sense at all and actually harm the environment more than cars with modern combustion engines.

I assume governments push EV for the same reason they do most anything..........to get votes to win the next election.

 

[chico bill]

not to sound like a tesla fan boy but you have to give it up to them. I read the article and when i saw that it was a porsche I immediately said to myself "ah thats why". I live about 16miles from the airport, and i also have left my vehicle for days at a time. I've never had an issue with range and not being able to get to my destination and back, again this is with my previous tesla which has a much larger and reliable super charging network. And even if i did have to stop somewhere to charge it would take about 20-30 mins to get the vehicle from 15% to 80-90%. And like someone mentioned above i can just relax in my car, with the ac cranked and watch an episode of my fav netfilx show.
In a non-tesla ev i would be a bit more worried. I have yet to go on any long trips in the rivian, but i know if i do i have to put a bit more planning with where we plan on stopping to charge.

I do not own a car to sit and watch Netflix. That is why I own a $300 TV. My house has AC too.

You could also sleep in a Tesla but I am sure that is not why you bought it.
I want my vehicle to go from A to B safely & reliably with the AC on and space to haul 4 other people and some volume of goods - that is all I want in my vehicle. ICE vehicles do this better.

People only buy EVs to virtue signal, because these cars are in reality more harmful to the environment that efficient gasoline powered cars. Maybe some buy them because they accelerate fast ?

 

[chico bill]

Ironically (or maybe it isn’t ironic at all? Hmm…), today José Peguero uploads a new video about Rivian in the DR. lol

PS. This is the SUV which is now in the DR, before it was the pick up.

How many accidents will occur looking at all the big screens in new cars ?

 

[JD Jones]

How many accidents will occur looking at all the big screens in new cars ?

Probably none.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1700720429328114076

 

[chico bill]

Probably none.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1700720429328114076

Well you need eyes and fingers working those big screens selecting things. Heck that's why cell phone usage earns you a ticket

 

[fuchs4d]

I assume governments push EV for the same reason they do most anything..........to get votes to win the next election.

They do what they are paid for and continue to do so to get more.
Why do you think companies donate for political parties and individuals?

Alexander

 

[playacaribe2]

Came across this opinion of why governments push EV despite the fact they make no sense at all and actually harm the environment more than cars with modern combustion engines.

With advanced autonomous cars it makes no sense anymore to own a car. You call a computer that sends a autonomous car that gets you where you want and then services the next customer.
The money side wants to offer this kind of service.
Own nothing and be happy.
Autonomous cars can easyly recharge or change battery packs.
It is way too complicated to have a car that can refill gasoline, so EVs are needed to have everyone pay per drive and to control all their movements and keep them confined.

Not sure, however this is the only explanation that makes sense to me.

Alexander

The reasons in the DR are many and varied. They likely range between the popular save the planet, to energy security (oil).

Either way, my clients are taking full advantage of NO import taxes as the vehicles are electric AND are part of a tourist project. Not to mention some have also gotten a further tax credit in the US.

For them, this is a window of opportunity they are taking full advantage of..................


Respectfully,
Playacaribe2

 

[RDKNIGHT]

I do not own a car to sit and watch Netflix. That is why I own a $300 TV. My house has AC too.

You could also sleep in a Tesla but I am sure that is not why you bought it.
I want my vehicle to go from A to B safely & reliably with the AC on and space to haul 4 other people and some volume of goods - that is all I want in my vehicle. ICE vehicles do this better.

People only buy EVs to virtue signal, because these cars are in reality more harmful to the environment that efficient gasoline powered cars. Maybe some buy them because they accelerate fast ?

Well if that is the case you could sit in your tesla and write us more DR1 .... I 'm a fan of tesla cars ... I just hope one never catches on fire here..

 

[LosSantanas954]

I do not own a car to sit and watch Netflix. That is why I own a $300 TV. My house has AC too.

You could also sleep in a Tesla but I am sure that is not why you bought it.
I want my vehicle to go from A to B safely & reliably with the AC on and space to haul 4 other people and some volume of goods - that is all I want in my vehicle. ICE vehicles do this better.

People only buy EVs to virtue signal, because these cars are in reality more harmful to the environment that efficient gasoline powered cars. Maybe some buy them because they accelerate fast ?

we went the ev route due to the california gas prices. Yes our electric bill is slightly higher but we're still paying less than when we had two ICE vehicles driving to and from work and running errands.

 

[texan]

I rented a Tesla Dual Motor Model 3 Long Range for one week in the US from Hertz for $318 and drove it almost 2400 miles going from Houston to Grand Lake Colorado. I spent about $240 charging it only using Tesla Superchargers. If you are at all interested in buying an electric car renting one for a road trip is a great idea. It did take about 8 stops to charge each way. The stops at a Buc-ees or a nice gas station make the trip easier. The computer makes it easy because it tells you each stop, your battery percentage when you arrive and how long to charge at each stop. It doesn't like you to go below 10 percent or above 80 percent. Most stops were 20 to 25 minutes. It can take just as long to go from 80 to 100 percent as 10 to 80 percent. For Daily driving it says to not go above 80 percent but you can if you are going to immediately drive it and need the extra range. I did charge it once at our Airbnb which took a long time on the basic charger Hertz provided.

As far as having one in the DR if you have a new or low mile one there should be much service besides tires for the first 100,000 miles. The tires do wear out faster because of the extra weight of the batteries. I would want to do how much the windshield and some other parts would cost to replace in the DR. I would have to figure out how many miles I drive and what I spend on gas a year. Then see how much I would potential save having an electric vehicle.

If your battery did go out in an EV, you would have to decide if replacing it is worth it or not. Hopefully you got a lot of miles out of the car before needing battery replacement.

I think over the next 5 to 10 years there will be drastic improvements with the batteries and self-driving technology. Maybe that same trip to Colorado will be two stops or less.

 

[texan]

I do not own a car to sit and watch Netflix. That is why I own a $300 TV. My house has AC too.

You could also sleep in a Tesla but I am sure that is not why you bought it.
I want my vehicle to go from A to B safely & reliably with the AC on and space to haul 4 other people and some volume of goods - that is all I want in my vehicle. ICE vehicles do this better.

People only buy EVs to virtue signal, because these cars are in reality more harmful to the environment that efficient gasoline powered cars. Maybe some buy them because they accelerate fast ?

Here’s how long EVs have to be driven before they save emissions versus gas cars - Washington Examiner

Electric vehicles must spend a while on the road before they reduce carbon emissions relative to gas-powered cars, an environmental consideration looming over President Joe Biden's push to electrify the vehicle fleet. That’s because producing an electric vehicle — and manufacturing the battery...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Some say there is point where the EV passes the ICE vehicle for being less harmful to the environment. I think Battery technology should improve and not require the same materials. When could you have Solar Panels efficient enough to charge your EV ? I only own ICE vehicles myself but feel like the EV technology is moving fast.

 

[chico bill]

Here’s how long EVs have to be driven before they save emissions versus gas cars - Washington Examiner

Electric vehicles must spend a while on the road before they reduce carbon emissions relative to gas-powered cars, an environmental consideration looming over President Joe Biden's push to electrify the vehicle fleet. That’s because producing an electric vehicle — and manufacturing the battery...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Some say there is point where the EV passes the ICE vehicle for being less harmful to the environment. I think Battery technology should improve and not require the same materials. When could you have Solar Panels efficient enough to charge your EV ? I only own ICE vehicles myself but feel like the EV technology is moving fast.

Yeah sure maybe lithium won't be needed some day.

Until that happens 400-500 lbs of ore are needed to make a battery for a medium size EV. That's a big lot of deep digging to get that much ore out for the materials needed for batteries, lithium, cobalt & copper.

There is not enough lithium in active mines in the world for everyone to drive EVs.

And you still need oil products to make plastics for the cars.

 

[Tom0910]

I read today that a new lithium deposit has been discovered in the U.S. and it may be the largest deposit in the world by a LOT,that would be a game changer.

 

[JD Jones]

I read today that a new lithium deposit has been discovered in the U.S. and it may be the largest deposit in the world by a LOT,that would be a game changer.

Yep, I saw that as well.

Lithium discovery in US volcano could be biggest deposit ever found

Find could point to new ways to prospect for material in high demand for batteries.

www.chemistryworld.com