Electric Cars in the DR

windeguy

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PC2, Watch Scotty's video. Scotty is an excellent mechanic and a wealth of knowledge on Youtube for years about all things cars.

I had not even considered some of the accident repair issues Scotty mentions, aside from nobody ever stocking those parts here in the DR, but those are very significant with respect to EVs because of the massive amount of computer control needed that must all work in harmony.
 
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PC2, Watch Scotty's video. Scotty is an excellent mechanic and a wealth of knowledge on Youtube for years about all things cars.

I had not even considered some of the accident repair issues Scotty mentions, aside from nobody ever stocking those parts here in the DR, but those are very significant with respect to EVs because of the massive amount of computer control needed that must all work in harmony.
I have seen many of his videos and they are mostly spot on. The fuse issue he speaks about is akin to a rare failure with an ice engine component......could it happen.....sure......is it likely......probably not.

He is however clueless in this video regarding the insurance component and liability at a charging station........at least in the US.

I own ice engine vehicles here and in the DR, I like ice engine vehicles, but I am not so blind as to not see what is happening on the Island regarding the rapid adoption of EV's.

EV's are not for everyone..............but they are gaining traction in the DR..........

I traversed the Island in June, going from Santiago to Santo Domingo to Punta Cana. I noticed far more EV's than ever on the road. Ironically, and as unscientific as it may be, the one thing I did not see was a late model Camry. Lots of Hyundai Sonata's but not one late model Camry (19-23). Could Toyota be dethroned as the car champion in the DR?

There was another thread about the best business in the DR, my vote would be for electric moto's. That business will at some point grow exponentially......even well beyond auto EV's.


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Playacaribe2
 

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I think the dethroning of Toyota in the DR started about when I bought my new 2003 Hyundai Santa Fe at Magna Motors in Santo Trafficjam.
Nissan and Mitsubishi also went by the boards when they used to be 2 and 3. Honda? You see some CRVs.

I have no idea on the fuse model issue liability in the US. I doubt Scotty is wrong, but it is possible.
I know for sure the words "No es me culpa" will come from the mouth of any seller of an EV here.

As Scotty pointed out, there are the initial buyers that have to have the new shiny EV cars. They have the pesos to spare, or sacrifice a bit to allegedly Go Eco.
Then they start to build up on dealers lots after the initial sales and the dealers call HALT!

Why would that not happen here? They are simply too expensive to purchase once those with the disposable income already have them.
And since they are "zero maintenance" the dealers will only make money on sales and not on parts and repair charges.
That is not a winning situation for dealers who will have excess inventory and batteries that fail by just sitting there over time while keeping a staff
of repair people that don't have any work.

Hyundai/Kia are the clear winners now. Perhaps next it will be Chinese EVs.
 
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I think the dethroning of Toyota in the DR started about when I bought my new 2003 Hyundai Santa Fe at Magna Motors in Santo Trafficjam.
Nissan and Mitsubishi also went by the boards when they used to be 2 and 3. Honda? You see some CRVs.
Nissan models could not catch up to the lead Toyota had built. Only Hyundai, and now Kia, gained significant traction. Honda has remained the number two player for some time now. Misubishi really was a one trick pony with the Montero.

I have no idea on the fuse model issue liability in the US. I doubt Scotty is wrong, but it is possible.
I know for sure the words "No es me culpa" will come from the mouth of any seller of an EV here.
If insured for fire or theft, your insurance company would pay the claim and then subrogate against the at fault party. The vehicle owner does not need to go after the charging company by themselves.
As Scotty pointed out, there are the initial buyers that have to have the new shiny EV cars. They have the pesos to spare, or sacrifice a bit to allegedly Go Eco.
Then they start to build up on dealers lots after the initial sales and the dealers call HALT!
Certainly the more well heeled will be buying the new technology. That is true of any products in recent memory. What did a computer cost initially, or a mobile phone or a vcr, or flat screen tv's or smart phones. It is the trickle down effect. New products.............got to have them.


Why would that not happen here? They are simply too expensive to purchase once those with the disposable income already have them.
And since they are "zero maintenance" the dealers will only make money on sales and not on parts and repair charges.
That is not a winning situation for dealers who will have excess inventory and batteries that fail by just sitting there over time while keeping a staff
of repair people that don't have any work.

Hyundai/Kia are the clear winners now. Perhaps next it will be Chinese EVs.
Well, actually they are for the most part less expensive and getting cheaper. Tesla has lowered the price of its EV's three times this year. Musk wants to be competitive ............and he will be......................and others will follow as technology drives innovation that drives prices lower.

Factor in the US government incentives for both new and used, the reduced tax regimen in the DR and you have a catalyst for continued EV adoption in the DR. Not to mention my clients further tax break for those vehicles being used in and part of a a so called "tourist project."

And I saw lots of Chinese EV's too. But as I said above, the quality issue has not been fleshed out and it may take several years for them to establish a track record.....good or bad.

Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
 
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The biggest problem with Tesla is that it appears it doesn't changes the design of their vehicles. The first Tesla model still looks the same. 🫣
 

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There was another thread about the best business in the DR, my vote would be for electric moto's. That business will at some point grow exponentially......even well beyond auto EV's.


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Playacaribe2
I agree 100% on electric motos taking off big time at some point.
 

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IMPORTANT for all Electric Car Owners in the DR.
My Friend that drives a Tesla 3 (brand new) just realized that his Full Cover Insurance does not cover the Battery Pack. He drove on a Wood Pallet lying at the Duarte Highway that totally ripped his Battery apart and now has to pay for it by himself. 890,000 RD$ No F... Kidding. The Full Cover Insurance DOES NOT INCLUDE THE BATTERY PACK. According to his Insurance Company, "common practice with almost all providers". He never read the contract ! IF YOU DRIVE A ELECTRIC VECICLE > PLEASE CHECK YOUR FULL COVER CONTRACT !!!!
 
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IMPORTANT for all Electric Car Owners in the DR.
My Friend that drives a Tesla 3 (brand new) just realized that his Full Cover Insurance does not cover the Battery Pack. He drove on a Wood Pallet lying at the Duarte Highway that totally ripped his Battery apart and now has to pay for it by himself. 890,000 RD$ No F... Kidding. The Full Cover Insurance DOES NOT INCLUDE THE BATTERY PACK. According to his Insurance Company, "common practice with almost all providers". He never read the contract ! IF YOU DRIVE A ELECTRIC VECICLE > PLEASE CHECK YOUR FULL COVER CONTRACT !!!!
Well, let just start by saying it is important for ALL car owners to check their coverage(s).

That having been said and taking your friend's scenario, if driving over that wood pallet with an ice engine vehicle, what if he punctured a tire and ruined the rim, or ripped off his exhaust system, would insurance cover it? The answer would be NO unless that pallet fell off of an truck/vehicle and he was able to get that vehicles insurance information to file a claim, or his vehicle was in an actual collision with another vehicle.

But I understand the issue as to battery cost..................they are indeed expensive.

And yes always check your insurance contract..............something most people do not do..............until they have a problem.


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The kicker is that while Mercedes-Benz, BMW, etc change the looks of many of their models every X years, all Teslas still look the same as the day they were first launched. If those Tesla's numbers remain leading sales in the luxury segment, Tesla's might not get a change in looks for a very long time.
 

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What's even more interesting is how strong BYD is in worldwide sales. Lots of BYD cars in the DR too:

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What's even more interesting is how strong BYD is in worldwide sales. Lots of BYD cars in the DR too:

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Only 10% of BYD sales are outside China.

They have however set their sites on emerging markets like the DR. It is much easier to sell on just a price point in those markets as consumers may not be as sophisticated to also evaluate on reliability/depreciation etc.

They have a long way to go to gain wider acceptance in the larger world car markets US/Japan/Canada/Korea/Germany/France/UK.....but they are certainly trying.

Globally, the crown still belongs to Tesla.........and as Tesla's 5 price cuts this year indicate, they intend to try and protect that market share.

FYI, both the Tesla Model Y and Model 3 have finally been refreshed this year. The Model Y had only cosmetic refreshments but the Model 3 had a major overhaul and it is selling well in Europe. The new Model 3 will hit US shores in the spring of 2024.

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my neighbor here in Sosua just bought an electric car,I have no idea what brand it is. All it says on it is "Go Electric" on one side of the rear tailgate and on the other side it says "Stylish LRX"
 

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This country does not need anymore cars being imported until they can solve the problems they have with the existing ones first.

One thing no one is talking about is how expensive these electric cars are to repair and how many qualified technicians are available to repair them?

In the mean time...
My neighborhood and the two next to me were without electricity yesterday afternoon for about 4 hours

Absolute fools.
 

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EVs are way more unreliable than gas-powered cars, Consumer Reports data indicates​


Consumer Reports has published an extensive ranking of vehicle reliability, and the results pour cold water on the dependability of EVs and plug-in hybrids. The survey says electric vehicles suffer from 79 percent more maintenance issues than gas- or diesel-powered ones, while plug-in hybrids have 146 percent more problems.

 
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I read somewhere that Avis/Hertz are dumping their Teslas for BYD electric cars. Much cheaper to buy and repair.