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Ex pats are just as likely to let you down as any native!
DR1 threads are known to take many turns before returning to the original topic. It's always a fun surf to follow a thread.
Agree but the ones going to something also use other expats/locals for their own purposes. Best not to generalise and choose your friends/acquaintances with care.
No, it doesn't make you African, European, or Taino.... it makes you... ummm... NATIVE. (When referring to people who live in the D.R.)
Is this really true??? I'd like to hear from other Dominicans on the site. In the interest of not inadvertently offending Dominicans when I'm on the island, it would be good to know the acceptable term to use.
Do we want to be called "natives" by people who visit our country? When Brits, Chinese, Dominicans, etc., visit the US, do we who live there want them to call us "natives"? I don't think so.
This is of interest to me also, in north america the term native is used often in reference to a person's location but never meant to be offensive.
Example............tourist ? local ? native ? three catagories.
tourist meaning temporary or visitor, local meaning living in this or the general area, native meaning born and raised at the particular locatin but never meant to offend.
Jonny - this is silly.
Dominicans born and bred and living in the D.R. are Dominican natives.
That is not rude or offensive.
I can see that saying that "the natives are getting restless" has very racist overtones.
So it is about context.
For example I like "crackers" with cheese.
Curiously, I was playing pool with an english guy when some drunk Dominicans started being silly and trying to start a fight.
My friend complained to the owner that these guys were "monkeying around".
A black guy from the states overheard this and took my friend asside and told him he was being racist using this phrase.
He wasn't intending to be racist and told the black guy this.
They had a good chat about it and my friend came away from the conversation a little confused but decided he would think before using that phrase again.
He decided this out of respect.
Political correctness gone mad? Or just having a little sensitivity to other people's feelings.
I can see how this happens.
Chip and Greydread, for example.
Now, everybody knows that you do not call a black guy "Boy".
But the very English phrase "Old Boy" is used as an affectionate appelation.
So when somebody calls a non-English black guy "Old Boy" it, understandably, could go either way.
I think the point is that you need to try and not be a dickhead about upsetting people.
Oh and after 30 mins and a few more beers the drunk Dominicans were my new best friends. I am going to his sister's wedding if I am around at the time.
Dominicans born and bred and living in the D.R. are Dominican natives.
That is not rude or offensive.
I can see that saying that "the natives are getting restless" has very racist overtones.
So it is about context.
For example I like "crackers" with cheese.
Curiously, I was playing pool with an english guy when some drunk Dominicans started being silly and trying to start a fight.
My friend complained to the owner that these guys were "monkeying around".
A black guy from the states overheard this and took my friend asside and told him he was being racist using this phrase.
He wasn't intending to be racist and told the black guy this.
They had a good chat about it and my friend came away from the conversation a little confused but decided he would think before using that phrase again.
He decided this out of respect.
Political correctness gone mad? Or just having a little sensitivity to other people's feelings.
I can see how this happens.
Chip and Greydread, for example.
Now, everybody knows that you do not call a black guy "Boy".
But the very English phrase "Old Boy" is used as an affectionate appelation.
So when somebody calls a non-English black guy "Old Boy" it, understandably, could go either way.
I think the point is that you need to try and not be a dickhead about upsetting people.
Oh and after 30 mins and a few more beers the drunk Dominicans were my new best friends. I am going to his sister's wedding if I am around at the time.
Use all your digits. When you get to 21 start again.
I've been here long enough so all my cells have been replaced and are now ... 'native'.
Taino culture was exterminated but remnants of the individuals who survived can be seen in many faces here. Taino words are sprinkled through the local language.
I don't spend much of my time with expats but it's interesting to observe the expats who clump together in the obvious expat gathering places. Spotting the different shades of shadiness is great fun. :laugh:
NATIVOS was the term used to refer to the indians who inhabited the island during the Spanish conquest.
INDIO= a naive person, silly, stupid, etc
some spanish examples:
Mira que idiota, se dej? coger de INDIO
Tu crees que yo soy INDIO?
Tu piensas que aqui habemos INDIOS?
INDIO= a naive person, silly, stupid, etc
some spanish examples:
Mira que idiota, se dej? coger de INDIO
Tu crees que yo soy INDIO?
Tu piensas que aqui habemos INDIOS?
have you ever seen a dominican cedula? it states - piel. and below can be: blanco, indio, negro, mulato. indio is descriptive here, not offensive. are you suggesting that your own government is mocking its people by putting "idiot" or "moron" on their cedulas?
but i strayed from the subject. what keeps me wondering is that con specialist i know always have jobs. they get out of one and straight into the other one and no one cares to contact an ex-employer for a little insight as to why was the person let go and what sort or a worker were they. no, nothing. one well paid position after another...
but i strayed from the subject. what keeps me wondering is that con specialist i know always have jobs. they get out of one and straight into the other one and no one cares to contact an ex-employer for a little insight as to why was the person let go and what sort or a worker were they. no, nothing. one well paid position after another...
The use of the words in English and Spanish can vary then.
In each language there are nuances and you are correctly alerting us to some of the subtleties. We have to be aware in what context a word can be used.
To tell you the truth I doubt if the indigenous people who inhabited the island when the Spanish arrived were stupid. They just had a culture that didn't anticipate the magnitude of a possible threat from the outside. Firearms and disease were great factors in the decimation of their culture.
Within their own pre-Columban milieu I'll bet there was competence and genius.
Jonny -
please let us know where you got the definition of "INDIO = a naive person, silly, stupid, etc."
You just make that up?
Because it is bollocks.
please let us know where you got the definition of "INDIO = a naive person, silly, stupid, etc."
You just make that up?
Because it is bollocks.
Although I don't agree with Johnny's objection to the word "natives" he is right in that the word indio can certainly be pejorative in Spanish - but again, totally depending on context. "Hacerse el indio" in Spanish is an outdated expression that means "to play the fool". In Latin American countries the term indio was often used interchangeably with the words ignorant/primitive and that's why ind?gena is more common these days.
And, the word Indio is associated with Nativos, que era como les llamaban los espa?oles