Yes, this is true. The threats from Russia and of the whole of the middle east kicking off into war are far more real for the US than lawlessness inside Haiti.
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Yes, this is true. The threats from Russia and of the whole of the middle east kicking off into war are far more real for the US than lawlessness inside Haiti.
I really hope the US stays completely out if it (except for the money PINO Biden already pledged, which is not enough to bring the Kenyans anyway).
Haiti is hardly a byline issue in the USA.
The US does not need such a disaster. Looks like Haiti will remain on its own from what I have seen so far.
I have the same thought of mind...U.S. military intervention which has happened several times before in Haiti is only a temporary stop-gap. The gangs will seemingly disappear only to reemerge when the coast is clear to wreak havoc and chaos again for their financial gain.
Nothing has changed.
Very few do care, people are tired of the Haitian chaos, created by Haitians.
Why throw money or troops at it.
It's not as if Haitians will be thankful/appreciative.
It's just the flavour of the day in the news cycle.
Murders, rape, shooting, people wringing their hands...we must do something.
It will be quickly forgotten, as Syria, Gaza, Ukraine where dying, rape torture, and killing is the daily normal.
Haiti is just an unimportant country on the global scale.
Abinader is just trying to defend his country from Haitian incursions and chaos.
If there is generational change, fundamental change it will have to come from Haitians with the willingness to do so.
So far it's a country mired in Haitian corruption.
You are dreaming.
They will be condemned as a colonial occupation force.
No good deed goes unpunished!
Haitians rush to blame everyone, but themselves.
Including those which are now living in comfort on the outside.
Gratitude is a quality seldom seen.
They the US, may have ugly warts.
Do you see Russia, China, N. Korea, Iran, Africa, Arabs, Latin America as great democratic intervention help?
In all the years after Duvalier have any of them stepped up to help?
I side with the imperfect USA.
Well the US timeline in Afghanistan does not come out of a vacuum.
Helping Taliban against Russia, 7/11 attack and war on terrorism followed by Nato 2001-2003 ISAF.
Of course USA will defend their national security if international players were to install in Haiti to destabilize Western Democracies.
Of course we are aware of:
We can see the active hybrid, cyber, misinformation, destabilization war against Democracies going on.
Many do not understand that we are at war, boots on the ground are not the first steps.
Regional conflicts like Haiti are often used to further this.
That's why USA is actively watching Haiti, hoping for minimal involvement through NGO's, humanitarian effort and diplomacy, as you mentioned.
I think that Barbecue fellow takes over if the international/US community doesn't intervene.
That means actually taking care of Haiti. Despite some Haitians sacrificed themselves in helping for the US independence, the US has forgotten that. Oh well…
Oh, what is this in Savannah, Georgia? No, it can’t be…
Haiti’s land area is the size of Maryland and its population is less than NYC metro area population. Just saying…
Yes I don’t think it’s such a crazy thought. There is no other country like Haiti in the Western Hemisphere. And it is so close to the US. There are already many Haitians in the US. I have seen something in the news about a possible exodus now to the US. It’s not that it’s the US responsibility at all but it’s the only country that could do it.That means actually taking care of Haiti. Despite some Haitians sacrificed themselves in helping for the US independence, the US has forgotten that. Oh well…
Oh, what is this in Savannah, Georgia? No, it can’t be…
Haiti’s land area is the size of Maryland and its population is less than NYC metro area population. Just saying…
The US could intervene in Haiti and restore law and order at gunpoint but France who was once linked closely to Haiti has the ability to do the same.
The US has the Marines who fight for the US but France has the Foreign Legion who fight for the Legion which happens to be based in France. Legionnaires France sends to countries to do dirty jobs that don’t result in the loss of French lives. The bonus is they speak French and they are rooted in mercenary style warfare. More highly trained and equipped than the Kenyans and a lot cheaper. Maybe just what Haiti needs.
That’s true but is Haiti considered their area of interest. Would the US allow that. The French work with the Americans in Africa from what I have heard. But does France have any influence like that in this part of the world. They are probably historically partly responsible and the US isn’t really but it’s US area of interest now. Also I don’t think somehow the Haitians would welcome the French like they would I think the Americans. What does the experts on here say ?
That means actually taking care of Haiti. Despite some Haitians sacrificed themselves in helping for the US independence, the US has forgotten that. Oh well…
Oh, what is this in Savannah, Georgia? No, it can’t be…
Haiti’s land area is the size of Maryland and its population is less than NYC metro area population. Just saying…
Just to be clear, the US has no obligation to embroil itself in Haiti….nor should it….other than perhaps humanitarian efforts.
And to clarify further, that Haitian monument you reference, while a tribute to “Haiti,” the French under its Treaty of Alliance with the colonies and who owned and controlled Haiti was the catalyst for sending the Chasseur brigade to the US to fight.
And continuing, that brigade was made up of not just “Haitians” but also freed slaves or slaves who earned their freedom from the other French islands of Guadeloupe and Martinique.
Finally, those freed slaves turned soldiers, who were identified as Dominican creoles, were mostly mixed race i. e., French fathers and slave mothers. Their plight was in that they were never fully accepted by either society.
And nobody has forgotten them as the monument is a reminder of their contribution.
As a postscript, the US has finally, after 2 years, confirmed a new ambassador to Haiti, ostensibly to help in trying to restore some semblance of order.
Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
It's getting bad in okap now. Many business are closed. A gallon of gas is $13.50 USD. Lots of scared people.