Immigration: Upon further review--good and bad news

Casino127

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A friend of mine went to the immigration HQ in Santo Domingo yesterday to extend his stay as tourist for another 3 months without a problem. He is here now for more than a year!

Can he do it in POP ? Is there an office, or can he do it in STI or only in SD ?
 
Buenas D?as,

I am a publishing journalist and business Tefl teacher living and working in the Madrid, Spain Capital since 2001. Hailing from Manhattan, I hold a USA passport as well as a E.U. passport.

I am interested in moving to the Dominican Republic and would enjoy hearing from members who already live and work in the Dominican Republic and have some insiders views on obtaining legal residency, an apartment, which urban zones are best to reside in etcetra.

Look very forward to hearing from you.
Have a wonderful day,

Ciao, Periodista y Profesora.
 

CaptnGlenn

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Anyway we will have to wait and see quick question Pichardo if you are married and live here 6 months can you apply for citizenship with out applying for residency this is what I read on Guzmans web page do you know if this is a fact ? TIA

Wait.... you read a definitive explanation from Guzman, and you're asking PICHARDO for confirmation? REALLY??? LOLOLOL. Have you read Pichardo's posts???? Granted, he has some good info from time to time, but he is all over the place, mostly posts opinion as fact, and characteristically will never admit a mistake or when he's wrong. Maybe he can take a picture of it.
 

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Hi,

I am new to this thread and joined hoping to have this very specific question answered!

I have been hired by a company in DR and therefore need to apply for a Residence Visa. However, there is so much confusion with the Embassy in my own country, as well as in the DR, and even with the company I am hired for having a lawyer looking into it, NOONE has been able to figure out the actual procedure and what is required to get this visa! Has anyone successfully obtained one since the implementation of the new law, and if so, what steps did you go through? I will be coming from Canada. There has been some suggestion that I just come for now on a Tourist visa and work (technically illegally)and they would try to apply for the visa with me already in the country, citing the confusion as the reason why I did not get it before coming over. Any idea what legal implications are if I got caught working without a proper visa? Does ANYONE know the actual confirmed steps to apply for the residence visa under the new law?

Thank you
 

bermyboy

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Captain Glen if you read some of my other posts I have debated with Pichardo quite alot but he seems to have a bunch of information about this subject he answered some questions of mine earlier. I do not agree with what he says and think he kives in an enitrely different Domniincan Republic than the rest of us but he does have some information or insode track on this subject otherwise I think most of what he says is his opinion and we all know what opinions are like!
 

bermyboy

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Also I PMed Guzman asking the same question no answer guess I will have to pay for an answer.
 

rafael

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www.dr-tourist.tv
According to one post by Pichardo I believe you would have used up your quota for a year after 6 months stay and then would have to wait until next year. It is like that in Brazil I have heard. But is this at all addressed in the law.

That would be fine. I spend less than 6 months a year actually in country. Heck it may be less than 3 months. Heck I may spend more time in Brasil than DR this year.
 

bermyboy

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This whole thing has turned into one big cluster F#$k just when I thought the PLD and Danilo would do things different and advance the country further it seems like they are taking steps backwards wether they know it or not its already affecting things espcially prodominant expat communities where after tourism the expats keep the communities going.
 

Lobo Tropical

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A Complicated and Changing World

Not anymore! They have changed the allotted time a person on a tourist visa can repeat that in a 3 year time lapse!

Have a sister living in windsor Ontario, who's a Canadian citizen with two kids. she used to do just that due to her husband's biz and can't anymore without having to file for a temporary resident permit from the gringo next door.

Most tourists are unaware that they get stamped a maximum limit for stay in their passport, but that doesn't mean it's meant to be like that each time. A lot of people have seen their tourist visa pulled and returned back home on entry to gringo land just because of this lately! A lot!

Immigration reforms are in flux worldwide, the only constant is change.

Visa Requirements - Citizens of Canada,
Citizens of Canada traveling to the United States do not require a nonimmigrant visa,

Permanent residents (landed immigrants) of Canada must have a nonimmigrant visa unless the permanent resident is a national of a country that participates in the Visa Waiver Program (VWP), meets the VWP requirements, and is seeking to enter the United States for 90 days or less under that program.

Citizens of Canada and Bermuda



Currently, Canadian snowbirds are legally entitled to stay no longer than 182 days per year.
Tax implications

What are the tax implications of being in the U.S. for more than 182 days? If you refer back to my article, ?Nesting Period?, I discussed the substantial-presence test, which is a calculation of the number of days a snowbird spends in the U.S. over a three-year period of time.

Under this test, if someone spends more than 183 days a year in the U.S., she?s deemed a U.S. tax resident and subject to U.S. income tax on worldwide income, along with other U.S. income tax and compliance requirements.

Proposed U.S. immigration reforms could impact older clients | Advisor.ca
 

Lobo Tropical

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$$$ and Control - Orwellian Theory

Not anymore! They have changed the allotted time a person on a tourist visa can repeat that in a 3 year time lapse!

Have a sister living in windsor Ontario, who's a Canadian citizen with two kids. she used to do just that due to her husband's biz and can't anymore without having to file for a temporary resident permit from the gringo next door.

Most tourists are unaware that they get stamped a maximum limit for stay in their passport, but that doesn't mean it's meant to be like that each time. A lot of people have seen their tourist visa pulled and returned back home on entry to gringo land just because of this lately! A lot!

This is a worldwide problem and the DR is no exception.
It all comes down to governments making more tax revenue, controlling the movement of money and people.
In the future look for mass migration due to economic and environmental influences.
Make up your own minds if we need to be afraid of governments.
 

bermyboy

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I hope Pichrado reads that as he tried to tell me what my country can and can not do i know lots of Bermudians that reside in the States have bought houses and retired in Florida live off the rental income of apartments or houses in Bermuda and pop home before thier 6 months are up afor a few weeks to do some work on thier houses Why ? Because Bermuda is a Uk territory and also as a country very close to the USA has very good relationship with the USA (US navy had base there for almost 50 years ) Also Bermuda is a very exspensive country and one of the highest cost of living in the world! You can work as a gas atendent and between salary and tips make over 1000 US dollars a week so most Bermudian travel frequently to America but very few stay there illeagaly as Bermuda is where the money is so there is no real threat of Bermudians enteriing USA and never leaving.
 

aname4me

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I am hoping that someone, who can make a difference, in the new Visa rules, is sitting in the weeds, watching this forum......


I understand the need to regulate, who enters your country, and how long they stay.


But... as a Canadian who is simply looking to spend my winters in a warm place I ask that the new rules be “User Friendly”.


I am willing to apply for a Visa, in Canada, for a 5-6 month stay in the DR, but please don't make it so, so hard to do.


Don't ask me for a Medical check from a DR certified Doctor (which would only be in Toronto).
Canadians have medical insurance, so just ask for proof of Out of Country Travel Medical Insurance. Cuba does this. Besides, I would rather have my Travel insurance fly me home, and be treated in Canada.


Don't ask for a Police report (that can take months to get). If I am a criminal, with little regard for rules, I will simply book a week at an AI resort, and disappear into your country. Besides... with the No-Fly lists out there, I hope real criminals would have a hard time flying to the DR.


If you want my Passport, why do you want my Birth Certificate?


Why ask for my Marriage Certificate? I am married, but a lot of couples are not.


“Original Guarantor Letter”.... Wow! A letter from someone the Consulate doesn't know, saying I am a good guy?


Now I can understand the Bank letter. If I want to stay in the DR for 5-6 month, I need to have money.


As a Canadian, I can stay in Cuba for 3 months, and renew for 3 months more.
If I were Italian, I can stay in Cuba for 30 days, and renew twice for 30 days more.
My point... different countries, different rules.


If you want Canadian Snowbirds.... set out simple rules for Canadians, using the DR's Consulate in Canada.

-Out of Country Travel medical insurance
-Proof of Pension and/or $ in the Bank
-stays of less the 210 days per year (after 210days/yr out of Country Canadians lose their medical coverage)


Please... keep it simple.


Last year we travelled to the DR via Air Canada, for the winter. Air Canada almost didn't let us on the plane because we didn't have a visa.... and that was when the rules were clear(er). This year, if you don't get this nailed down, and clear... there could be a lot of people, who have paid for they winters holiday, stuck in Toronto. These people will be neither happy or quiet.
 

Lobo Tropical

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Wait

I am hoping that someone, who can make a difference, in the new Visa rules, is sitting in the weeds, watching this forum......


I understand the need to regulate, who enters your country, and how long they stay.


But... as a Canadian who is simply looking to spend my winters in a warm place I ask that the new rules be ?User Friendly?.


I am willing to apply for a Visa, in Canada, for a 5-6 month stay in the DR, but please don't make it so, so hard to do.


Don't ask me for a Medical check from a DR certified Doctor (which would only be in Toronto).
Canadians have medical insurance, so just ask for proof of Out of Country Travel Medical Insurance. Cuba does this. Besides, I would rather have my Travel insurance fly me home, and be treated in Canada.


Don't ask for a Police report (that can take months to get). If I am a criminal, with little regard for rules, I will simply book a week at an AI resort, and disappear into your country. Besides... with the No-Fly lists out there, I hope real criminals would have a hard time flying to the DR.


If you want my Passport, why do you want my Birth Certificate?


Why ask for my Marriage Certificate? I am married, but a lot of couples are not.


?Original Guarantor Letter?.... Wow! A letter from someone the Consulate doesn't know, saying I am a good guy?


Now I can understand the Bank letter. If I want to stay in the DR for 5-6 month, I need to have money.


As a Canadian, I can stay in Cuba for 3 months, and renew for 3 months more.
If I were Italian, I can stay in Cuba for 30 days, and renew twice for 30 days more.
My point... different countries, different rules.


If you want Canadian Snowbirds.... set out simple rules for Canadians, using the DR's Consulate in Canada.

-Out of Country Travel medical insurance
-Proof of Pension and/or $ in the Bank
-stays of less the 210 days per year (after 210days/yr out of Country Canadians lose their medical coverage)


Please... keep it simple.


Last year we travelled to the DR via Air Canada, for the winter. Air Canada almost didn't let us on the plane because we didn't have a visa.... and that was when the rules were clear(er). This year, if you don't get this nailed down, and clear... there could be a lot of people, who have paid for they winters holiday, stuck in Toronto. These people will be neither happy or quiet.


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I read somewhere a few months ago that overstaying a tourist visa was grounds for 'deportation' and that one will need special permission from the migration department to re-enter at a future date. Googling today, this is what I found about it.
The below from this source

" if you over stay your tourist card period, you will need a re-entry authorization to come back. (See Presidential Decree 631-11) articles 120-140.
I?ve received a lot of emails concerning the above paragrapgh.It?s in article 15 and 121 of Dominian Immigration Law (law 285). From reading those articles you will see: a) Staying longer than what your Tourist Card allows makes you an object of deportation. The law explains that when you are ?deportable?, you need a re-entry authorization to come back. This part of the law hasn?t been put into practice yet, but it will, though I believe it will be similar to the tourist card you buy at the airport. ?Special Permit? seems to terrify some people, but the exact words the law uses is ?Re-entry Authorization? , words I hope sound less scary. Dominican Republic remains open to everyone that wants to come here. The only difference is that now, if you come in as a tourist, you can not legalize yourself if you decide to stay. We are working to change this, so please pay attention to newspapers over the next couple of weeks, at the end, this might have been a big fuss for nothing. "
 

Lobo Tropical

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Legal Advise

Also I PMed Guzman asking the same question no answer guess I will have to pay for an answer.

Mr. Guzman makes comment on selected items and has a link to his firm on dr1.
I'm sure that Mr. Guzman is not in business with a free legal advise forum.
 

aname4me

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We are a law-abiding individuals. We went to the DR, and stayed for the winter. At the Airport (departing) we went up to a counter, who's only purpose was to collect overstay fees, and gave them money for an official piece of paper. The paper was then requested by, and accepted by the Immigration person.


How can this be illegal?


But that was all last year.


I have to book soon for this year, before all the cheap seats are gone. I have flipped a coin. One side say DR the other says Cuba. I will wait another week, but this coin in going to land soon and a decision will have to be made.
 

bermyboy

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Mr. Guzman makes comment on selected items and has a link to his firm on dr1.
I'm sure that Mr. Guzman is not in business with a free legal advise forum.
Understandable I see lots of questions answered by him on the DR1 boards the question I asked was for something I read on their website to be confirmed nothing else.