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Is the Dominican Republic a Third World Country?
Haha, the definition of a New York minute: the time it takes for the first horn to blow after the light turns green.....
AE
and what about edenorte telling people " we cannot be bothered to put up a meter, but you will get luz " , maybe that should change as well? (expats asking for a connection, getting one, but no meter and no contract)
No, some high tax countries rate very high on happiness. Essential services such as transport, health, education, are taken out of the hands of punks and speculators and everyone benefits.
Elected officials have huge responsibility and are to be commended when they discharge their duties well.
With lower working weeks e.g. 35-36 hours in France work is shared out and in fact people have far more freedom; more holidays, freedom from worry - regarding medical bills, homelessness given the right to housing etc. and better life chances.
Education systems that maintain elites through charging huge fees give 'freedom' to the few and reduce it for the many.
It is better for all that there are fewer million dollar yachts and more good schools, museums, housing etc.
This is not to deny reasonable rewards for people who work hard or are enterprising. But those who merely manipulate money and commodities on Wall Street etc?
Yanandu
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Elected officials have huge responsibility and are to be commended when they discharge their duties well.
With lower working weeks e.g. 35-36 hours in France work is shared out and in fact people have far more freedom; more holidays, freedom from worry - regarding medical bills, homelessness given the right to housing etc. and better life chances.
Education systems that maintain elites through charging huge fees give 'freedom' to the few and reduce it for the many.
It is better for all that there are fewer million dollar yachts and more good schools, museums, housing etc.
This is not to deny reasonable rewards for people who work hard or are enterprising. But those who merely manipulate money and commodities on Wall Street etc?
Yanandu
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Law after law after contrived crisis after solution in a law after law...until there is no more freedom to take away.
And every dollar you confiscate from an individual for purposes other than those outlined in Federal, state and local constitutions or municipal incorporation you take a dollar choice...and thus free will...from that person.
We have become slaves of the states, following the Judas goats we call "elected officials" who promise us majik unicorns and rainbow Gummi bears.
We'd be better off if it was OK to lynch elected officials as a function of their being elected...
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If more people paid their bills, the power companies would have more cash to utilize in the proper management of their business. Any business strangled for cash would have problems.
I understand 40% of power is unpaid. That is a massive amount of cash.
There is much waste of power. Lighting and air-con when building design and insulation could reduce consumption.
Reduction in banking hours etc.
Inspections of each installation are needed. There are many old refrigerators that need upgrading.
Prepayment meters are being introduced. These are the answer in many situations.
Yanandu
Yanandu
Reduction in banking hours etc.
Inspections of each installation are needed. There are many old refrigerators that need upgrading.
Prepayment meters are being introduced. These are the answer in many situations.
Yanandu
Yanandu
I'm actually impressed with the new approach to resolving illegal connections; relatively high power polls. While I have seen some cobbled together ladders that can get up to the almost 25' high there aren't nearly as visible around anymore when all one needed was a 15' ladder to get by. Then too a 25' ladder of this type are very difficult to transport and the local electricians that specialize in illegal connections can't afford a real ladder. I expect why one doesn't see more of the new power pole applications is two fold; one the cost of installation and two the obvious negative reception of the locals. I expect these poles to be integrated in gradually as to not cause such an uproar.
As usual, OPM.And who might pay for all of these upgrades looney tunes?
You know, ~what~ one calls the DR matters naught. It is what it is.
Francis Bacon for Juliet said:
I think a good start for Edenorte would be to stop hiring dumba$s b*tches to do their "customer service" and actually hire ppl who would appreciate having a job in an air conditioned office and can offer some kind of customer service instead of playing on their cell phones and chatting msn while 3 rows of ppl sit waiting with that stupid paper number in hand!
And who might pay for all of these upgrades looney tunes?
Fair question.
If you rent property in the UK it is required buy law to have an energy efficiency audit every 5 years or before offering to let.
Paid for by the landlord.
The tenant before signing can see to the degree to which the building is satisfactory and is low cost to run.
So an office or apartment with inefficient heating is less attractive to a tenant than one than is efficient.
Remedial work gets done; many times paid by the landlord.
Different countries have different schemes.
In many countries (including the United Kingdom), new buildings must meet a certain level of energy efficiency.
Energy monitors are being promoted in the UK. These range from 'kill a watt'
Amazon.com: P3 International P4400 Kill A Watt Electricity Usage Monitor: Home Improvement
upwards.
Households, small stores etc. can check out efficiency at low cost.
People who are bad bill payers but are not in absolute poverty have their contracts cancelled and are switched to a prepayment meter in many countries. The increased rate per kwh and the improved cash flow pays for these more sophisticated meters.
Costa Rica is to finance removal of old refrigerators.
ICE To Finance Trade Of Old Refrigerator For A More Energy Efficient New One
Looking to buy a new refrigerator? Look no further than ICE whose objective is to entice all Costa Ricans with refrigerators older that seven years to trade in for a new one with an attractive financial plan.
The Instituto Costarricense de Electricidad (ICE) said it will finance 90% of the purchase of a new refrigerators if they trade in their old refrigerators that have a higher consumption rate that the newer units.
Henry Sol?s, director of Innovaci?n y Eficiencia Energ?tica de la CNFL (an ICE subsidiary) said that the institution is considering charging the payments on the monthly electrical bill, though the details of the financing charges were not made available, saying that the institution is still working out the details of the repayment plan.
Sol?s says that there are an estimated 200.000 old refrigerators in use today and that plan that will possibly begin in November is to take those units "off the streets" in an effort to reduce energy consumption.
They work out that it is cheaper to finance this and the consumer pay a little more on the bill than to finance new power stations, distribution grid etc. as energy consumption rises.
Promote best practices:
Energy-Saving Appliances Best Practices
I notice that the in the DR some companies are promoting defrosting fridges - the cost of printing the back of the bill with this information not so high.
There is also finance from richer countries:
Energy-saving refrigerators against global warming
In all these schemes all good consumers save.
Banks in the dr have had reduced hours before. Remembering to get to the bank before 12 is so great a problem?
Yanandu
DR is an emerging market. It's GDP on PPP is on par with Colombia, for example, and in general terms Colombia is now considered fast growing Latin American economy. Anyway, third-world is obsolete term for a country. New emerging markets, that's how these countries are called now.
Anyway, one thing I will say for sure: there are some Dominicans with third-world mentality. Their brain is that of a chicken. Now, I say some. How would otherwise be considered those people, who after 3-years of AMET making raids still do not wear helmets? After 3 years of AMET cracking down of helmetless-suicide-waiting-to-happen-riders you can still see AMET towing trucks full o motorcycle and passolas. Geez...haven't those people learned yet by observing those trucks every day? Couple of weeks ago, in local newscast, an angry motoconchista called in compalining that "somebody should stop and stand up to those AMET abusadores" who keep cracking down on motorcyclists (not wearing helmets, or without lights) and he kept going on saying that he "had to pay already $4800 pesos in fines --4x1200-- to those AMET abusers because he was caught 4 times without a helmet". THAT is a third-world thinking, brain process and mentality. maybe this motoconcho sometime in the past got hit and is now living with a brain damage otherwise I just cannot explain how he can go on 4 time sto pay the fine and not learn yet. Fortunately, the newscast presenter replied him "comprate el bendito casco, que cuesta 300 pesos...estupido eres tu pagando 4 multas por casi 5000 pesos...proxima llamada" (translate: buy the f***$$% helmet which costs 300 pesos...who is stupid are you paying 4 fines for almost 5000 pesos...next call". The local newscasters who were trashing AMET at the beginning are now on the AMET's side at least as far as their work is concerned (excluding some unwarranted abuses and confrontations AMET commits with the public but that's another story).
Anyway, one thing I will say for sure: there are some Dominicans with third-world mentality. Their brain is that of a chicken. Now, I say some. How would otherwise be considered those people, who after 3-years of AMET making raids still do not wear helmets? After 3 years of AMET cracking down of helmetless-suicide-waiting-to-happen-riders you can still see AMET towing trucks full o motorcycle and passolas. Geez...haven't those people learned yet by observing those trucks every day? Couple of weeks ago, in local newscast, an angry motoconchista called in compalining that "somebody should stop and stand up to those AMET abusadores" who keep cracking down on motorcyclists (not wearing helmets, or without lights) and he kept going on saying that he "had to pay already $4800 pesos in fines --4x1200-- to those AMET abusers because he was caught 4 times without a helmet". THAT is a third-world thinking, brain process and mentality. maybe this motoconcho sometime in the past got hit and is now living with a brain damage otherwise I just cannot explain how he can go on 4 time sto pay the fine and not learn yet. Fortunately, the newscast presenter replied him "comprate el bendito casco, que cuesta 300 pesos...estupido eres tu pagando 4 multas por casi 5000 pesos...proxima llamada" (translate: buy the f***$$% helmet which costs 300 pesos...who is stupid are you paying 4 fines for almost 5000 pesos...next call". The local newscasters who were trashing AMET at the beginning are now on the AMET's side at least as far as their work is concerned (excluding some unwarranted abuses and confrontations AMET commits with the public but that's another story).
You might want to look at it from the employment perspective: Most people are employed in farming and construction. A much smaller fraction are in services. This equals some place between under-developed and developing in the new speak.
Look at literacy. The truth is that 65% of Dominicans are "functionally" illiterate. That is under-developed. But there are over 4 million cell phones. That is developing. Look at Internet accounts. Did I not see where around 500,000 people have Internet accounts? That is 5% of the population, give or take a few thousands, and that is developing.
The numbers out of the Central Bank are just that: numbers....Growth, ehhh? Who and where? Rich = richer. Same old, same old.\: Santiago, Santo Domingo, La Romana, Punta Cana, with a tip of the hat to Puerto Plata, but with the Brugals selling out there ain't a whole lot going on...
Blessings,
HB
Look at literacy. The truth is that 65% of Dominicans are "functionally" illiterate. That is under-developed. But there are over 4 million cell phones. That is developing. Look at Internet accounts. Did I not see where around 500,000 people have Internet accounts? That is 5% of the population, give or take a few thousands, and that is developing.
The numbers out of the Central Bank are just that: numbers....Growth, ehhh? Who and where? Rich = richer. Same old, same old.\: Santiago, Santo Domingo, La Romana, Punta Cana, with a tip of the hat to Puerto Plata, but with the Brugals selling out there ain't a whole lot going on...
Blessings,
HB
That is factually incorrect. Even at fully functioning capacity from currently existing plants we have an approximately 33% or 850 Mega production gap.
Please add to this that only 9 of the currently available 36 plants work at full capacity, the rest is either being rrepaird or shut down for maintanence or fuel shortage. The crisis is severe and will not improve unless major investments arrive (this I am working on feverishly now for the last three years).
Then still it will take two years minimum for the installlation of a plant.
not just Dominican Republic in general, but too keep it related, should be trained by the best of more social, educated, "first world" countries, (thats america out the pan then)
and thus therefore, will help gain respect for all countries involved,
more allies = more bitches ;-D
BR
and thus therefore, will help gain respect for all countries involved,
more allies = more bitches ;-D
BR
I have 24/7 Electricity and Water here in the DR, without the Use of a Inverter or such, simply from the public Provider.
Mike
No question about it, since the title "third world country" is now used instead in terms like developed, developing and undeveloped, we must admit there are but two real sides: First world and the rest!
First world the DR is not, nor is it at the bottom of the Totem Pole in the other "side". If need be said "politically correct" the DR is a developing country or emerging economy, whichever happens to fill your plate as you like.
As far as Education, basic services and rule of Law, the DR still must walk a long path to reach those goals in order to claim the title of having reached anything yet.
If the DR didn't have to deal with Haiti's overflow of problems, the goals and titles would have been a tad closer by now, but that's a whole other issue.
First world the DR is not, nor is it at the bottom of the Totem Pole in the other "side". If need be said "politically correct" the DR is a developing country or emerging economy, whichever happens to fill your plate as you like.
As far as Education, basic services and rule of Law, the DR still must walk a long path to reach those goals in order to claim the title of having reached anything yet.
If the DR didn't have to deal with Haiti's overflow of problems, the goals and titles would have been a tad closer by now, but that's a whole other issue.
It just makes me wonder... If one is to call the DR a third world country, crossing well into Haiti what would you call that then?