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Kenyans in Haiti
If the gang members, such as those is the photo, were to be viewed as an invading enemy, would it not be acceptable to shoot them on sight?
No reason to be positive on a miserably failed drug war, overdevelopment of Airbnb or Haiti.
Some people see realism as pessimism, Oh well, nothing I can do about that.
Here is more proof of that for Haiti, where the mercenaries are having little positive impact:
Haiti gangs are recruiting more child soldiers, human rights report says
By ReutersOctober 9, 202412:09 AM GMT-4Updated 3 hours ago
Children accompany armed gang members in a march organised by former police officer Jimmy "Barbecue" Cherizier, leader of an alliance of armed groups, in the Delmas neighbourhood, in Port-au-Prince, Haiti, May 10, 2024/REUTERS/Pedro Valtierra Anza/File Photo Purchase Licensing Rights, opens new tab
Oct 9 (Reuters) - Haiti's armed gangs are increasingly recruiting children into their ranks, a report by Human Rights Watch warned on Wednesday, as near-famine conditions push boys to pick up guns while girls are sexually abused and forced into domestic work.
The group, which advocates for human rights globally, said it had spoken to six children recently involved with gangs, all of whom said they wanted to leave and had joined because they were hungry and gangs were often the only source of food, shelter or money.
Boys are often used as informants, trained to use weapons and ammunition, and deployed in clashes against the police, HRW said. It cited the case of a boy called Michel, an orphan who was recruited six years ago when he was 8 and living on the streets and was given a loaded Kalashnikov.
Girls are raped and forced to cook and clean for gang members, the report said, and often discarded once they become pregnant.
Haiti's powerful gangs have been expanding their influence in recent years while state institutions have been paralyzed by a lack of funds and political crises. Gangs now control territory where 2.7 million people live, including half a million children.
As they have grown, the gangs have ramped up child recruitment, said HRW.
About a third of gang members are children, according to estimates by the United Nations, which has also warned of boys being used for killings and to attack institutions, and girls being forced into exploitative sexual relations and killed in broad daylight for refusing to do so.
HRW said the criminal groups are increasingly using popular social media apps to attract recruits.
The leader of the Village de Dieu gang, for instance, is a rapper and publishes well-polished music videos of his soldiers. The report said he has a specialized unit to train children how to handle weapons and set up checkpoints.
The U.N. approved Haiti's request for a security mission to help the Caribbean country's police fight the gangs a year ago, but so far the mission has only partially deployed.
HRW urged Haiti's government and other countries to provide more resources for security forces, ensure children are able to eat and go to school, and provide rehabilitation for recruits.
More realism:
Futility,,, And reality
They Flew 7,000 Miles to Fight Haiti’s Gangs. The Gangs Are on Top.
Hundreds of Kenyan police officers are in Port-au-Prince, trying to take the capital back from gangs, but financing and personnel shortages have hampered the effort.www.nytimes.com
By Frances Robles
- Oct. 9, 2024Updated 7:06 a.m. ET
If the burned-out cars, bullet-riddled schools, demolished buildings and desolate streets in downtown Port-au-Prince weren’t enough evidence of the terrible things that happened here, someone left an even more ominous hint: skulls in the middle of the street.
A human head propped up on a stick with another on the ground beside it in front of a government office was apparently intended as a menacing message from gang members to the Kenyan and Haitian police officers trying to restore order to Haiti: Beware, we rule these streets.
A Kenyan police officer wearing a bulletproof vest and helmet and patrolling in an American armored personnel carrier took a photograph with his cellphone, while another maneuvered the vehicle around the skulls.
Futility,,, And reality
More futility to come:
www.diariolibre.com
Kenia promete 600 policías adicionales para la misión de seguridad en Haití
El objetivo es restablecer la seguridad en el país caribeño, asolado por la violencia pandillera, anunció el viernes el presidente William Ruto
www.diariolibre.com
The UN led Haitian Intervention dog and pony show gets more interesting as it progresses. The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation National news announced this morning that El Salvador is now considering sending a contingent of troops to aid in the Intervention. This might be the enforcement shot in the arm it needs. Salvadoran military forces are brutal at times. Well trained at dealing with gang warfare in urban environments. The President has stripped away most of the democratic rights of Salvadorans and used the military to crush any opposition to his plans. Whoever set the bar for military assistance with the Haitian Intervention didn’t set it very high.
At the end of the day, it won't make any difference. Nothing that will be done will have any siginificant effect on the overall situation.
Sending more troops into Haiti is like putting a band-aid over a bullet wound.
There will be no peace.
There will be no peace.
I seriously doubt that will happen. I would put chances of that at less than 1%.
The reaction of the DR would be way stronger than what they face in Haiti. There is no benefit for them if the DR becomes an active enemy in their conflict. It would also change their internal conflict into an international conflict with all escalations that come with that. As long as they stay in Haiti they can do what they want.
Dominican border troops have been quite restrained in using their weapons until now. That could change if the gangs were foolish enough to try and take possession of Dominican territory.
Sadly Windy, you’re right. The new President was just elected amidst rumours of corruption by the interim government appointees. The presence of the International intervention forces hasn’t stopped the organized and armed gangs from spreading into other areas and displacing thousands more Haitians. The assistance provided by the Kenyan police to the Haitian police has been underwhelming. As Yogi Berra said, “Deja vu all over again”. Almost predictable.
Underpinning the failure is the threat to further funding from the new US administration about to assume power in a few months. Their focus is squarely on US internal matters. Haitian problems will be very low on their radar, if at all. I can’t see the UN stepping up to fill the pending funding and resourcing gap. They‘re still deeply mired in Gaza affairs. I don’t want to say the Haitian intervention has a questionable future but it’s hard to ignore the obivious. The more they try to change things in Haiti, the more they stay the same.
On both tiktok and Instagram I see a bit of patriotic pride such as "we will rise again." Haiti has some beautiful areas outside of the capital and they need to take advantage of it. My opinion is that they're too passive. The late teens, 20 and 30 somethings need to band together and take the country back. Shoot first and ask questions later. Until that happens, it will continue to be same shit different day.
