I understand, I was just wondering because I have run into both cases (the ones who game the system and the ones who truly needs it), but I wouldn't be able to say, one outnumbered the other. Of course, it's only based on my experience.
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Overall Stats on Dominicans in the United States
I understand, I was just wondering because I have run into both cases (the ones who game the system and the ones who truly needs it), but I wouldn't be able to say, one outnumbered the other. Of course, it's only based on my experience.
But without a doubt your first group makes it harder on your second group! Same goes for visa applications.
yes. most likely. When I was speaking about the "complete change of the immigration system" -- even though I was posting about how misdemeanors become deportables.. I was also referring to a change in the status of the DR as one of the top five nations for Visas.. I think THAT is certainly going to change. Along with the "family unification chain" These are two of AG Sessions pet peeves..
I agree a 10000 %
I believe in helping people who truly need it, that is why I would never cheat. One day, a long time ago, when I was a student and broke, a woman approached me at the supermarket and offered to pay for with an EBT card at a small discount (against some cash) . I agreed. For days, I was imagining her kids without a meal because she had spent the cash I gave her on drugs, never again.
Without question the DR is on Sessions radar. And for good reason. The prior marriage/visa/fraud/corruption scams will likely put ALL Visa requests under deeper scrutiny as well as the canceling of current visas.
Look what recently happened to the Appellate Judges visas in the Rizik case.
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I have a Dominican friend - the father of her daughter married a Puerto Rican - quite clearly stated that it was for the citizenship - and he has followed through = bringing in two of his kids with green cards. It is not an easy process... the child has to spend a certain amount of time in the US . etc etc.. etc.. But the daughter now lives there - finished high school gets Medicaid.. and my friend -- keeps referring to it as "the government program - you know-- like you all get"
After I corrected her about the third time.. explained the NO.. WE do not all get .. and that MY tax dollars pay for it.. she was good enough to alter her statement to say --" which YOU pay for, thank you very much"
But Dominicans see nothing wrong with it.. Of course.. since we are as one poster said "the richest country in the world" (certainly not true.. biggest debtor nation.. Largest economy_..yes). It is as if Gringos do not actually have to WORK for the money, right? Just as another Dominican assured me that it was so much easier to clean a house in the USA which was why Dominicans needed full time maids while Americans did not).
I remember walking by the PLD HQ one day.. right around the corner from my apartment, and one of the women, one of the politicos, in her 40s, well dressed, put out her hand to me, like begging.. and I said "for what?" and she said .. the traditional "da me algo" and I said "why?" "I am working - are you not working? Why should I give you anything?"
my shoeshine boys .. whom I kept in progressively larger sneakers -- they were a different story.
As it should be. If you are a law abiding person, then you should have no fear. If the visa was for true love, then you should also have no fear. If you get caught up in the mix and things go sideways, then there is a process that you can follow to straighten things out.
That is my point: non-white minorities are overrepresented by multiples. This field has been plowed on DR1 numerous times.
More stats from MPI.. comparing immigrants from the DR, Haiti, Cuba
they use "The term "immigrants" (or "foreign born") refers to people residing in the United States who were not U.S. citizens at birth. This population includes naturalized citizens, lawful permanent residents (LPRs), certain legal nonimmigrants (e.g., persons on student or work visas), those admitted under refugee or asylee status, and persons illegally residing in the United States." (have no idea how stats are gathered for illegals)
http://www.migrationpolicy.org/prog...h-over-time?width=1000&height=850&iframe=true
(not sure the link will hold on the three countries.. may have to enter them yourselves..) nope.. would not hold.. tried twice.. well Cuba well in the lead.. followed by DR .. which went up constantly.. odd really as I thought there would have a been a large blip for Haiti after the earthquake but that did not appear.. perhaps only of interest to real geeks)
they use "The term "immigrants" (or "foreign born") refers to people residing in the United States who were not U.S. citizens at birth. This population includes naturalized citizens, lawful permanent residents (LPRs), certain legal nonimmigrants (e.g., persons on student or work visas), those admitted under refugee or asylee status, and persons illegally residing in the United States." (have no idea how stats are gathered for illegals)
http://www.migrationpolicy.org/prog...h-over-time?width=1000&height=850&iframe=true
(not sure the link will hold on the three countries.. may have to enter them yourselves..) nope.. would not hold.. tried twice.. well Cuba well in the lead.. followed by DR .. which went up constantly.. odd really as I thought there would have a been a large blip for Haiti after the earthquake but that did not appear.. perhaps only of interest to real geeks)
Regardless of Jeff Sessions statements there is an economics professor from Duke University in North Carolina, William Darity, who assessed the same thing calculating wealth or net worth in the United States. His synopsis was the average White household had $117,000 in networth, the average Black household had $8.00 and Dominicans had 0.
They spend all the money they earn in the US, either putting on airs with expensive possessions or sending it back home to subsidize the lives of others.
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Im lost. People "intend" on going home to retire, but unless they came in their 30s to a economically progressive job no one retires. As I have seen it there are two things happening:
A. You get old and you have to stay in the USA because after a certain age you get Medicaid, SSI and eligibility for senior citizen housing.
B. You get sick and you have to stay because of the superior medical care.
The only people I have seen feign retirement were people on disability who had their disability deposited electronically to their bank account and only flew back to NY once every 3 or 4 months for a case hearing or whatever, go to the doctor or renew a prescription refill and all that.
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What would happen if they.purge everyone on the awaiting visa lottery and then reexamined every case por.potential.fraud?
Or even.if they reduced the visa lottery to award only 10% of the previous years lottery total amount?
Or even if they shuffled the list of countries on the list at random or from.a statistically lower country?
Things could get real ugly quickly for the power structure in DR, Trump turned the faucet off.
I don't think the DR or itès citizens are high on the list of priorities for the Trump Administration. The DR government cooperates with American authorities on almost everything, and the majority of Dominicans in the states cause no issues, regardless of the amount deported for drugs and other crimes.
All of my wife's extended family in the states except one lazy girl are all working at full time jobs. Everything from nanny to petroleum engineering. None are on welfare, The lazy girl babysits for her sister. They are all legal residents with many now citizens.
All of my wife's extended family in the states except one lazy girl are all working at full time jobs. Everything from nanny to petroleum engineering. None are on welfare, The lazy girl babysits for her sister. They are all legal residents with many now citizens.
From Pres. Trump's speech to Congress last night--
Nations around the world, like Canada, Australia and many others --- have a merit-based immigration system. It is a basic principle that those seeking to enter a country ought to be able to support themselves financially. Yet, in America, we do not enforce this rule, straining the very public resources that our poorest citizens rely upon. According to the National Academy of Sciences, our current immigration system costs America's taxpayers many billions of dollars a year.
Switching away from this current system of lower-skilled immigration, and instead adopting a merit-based system, will have many benefits: it will save countless dollars, raise workers' wages, and help struggling families --- including immigrant families --- enter the middle class.
I believe that real and positive immigration reform is possible, as long as we focus on the following goals: to improve jobs and wages for Americans, to strengthen our nation's security, and to restore respect for our laws."
Nations around the world, like Canada, Australia and many others --- have a merit-based immigration system. It is a basic principle that those seeking to enter a country ought to be able to support themselves financially. Yet, in America, we do not enforce this rule, straining the very public resources that our poorest citizens rely upon. According to the National Academy of Sciences, our current immigration system costs America's taxpayers many billions of dollars a year.
Switching away from this current system of lower-skilled immigration, and instead adopting a merit-based system, will have many benefits: it will save countless dollars, raise workers' wages, and help struggling families --- including immigrant families --- enter the middle class.
I believe that real and positive immigration reform is possible, as long as we focus on the following goals: to improve jobs and wages for Americans, to strengthen our nation's security, and to restore respect for our laws."
This is a great thread and speaks to the worthlessness of the Dominican American experience. I am so tired of "them" with their surly attitudes, obnoxiousness and ostentatious displays of "Wealth".
There is no way around it, we have wasted our opportunity to assimilate into the greatest society known to man and instead prefer to revert to our 3rd world cesspool way of live.
There is no way around it, we have wasted our opportunity to assimilate into the greatest society known to man and instead prefer to revert to our 3rd world cesspool way of live.
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There is a backlog in the courts - in the deportation courts. And some of the Blue States - like NY and CA - are going to throw up impediments. I expect some of the agricultural states will as well once they figure out they will not get their crops picked (I can not for the life of me figure out why the agribusinesses are not fined within an inch of their lives if they are using illegals? there are reports that the Wisconsin dairy industry is based almost entirely on illegals caring for cows? how can this be? do not know... not enough journalists in the field)
Dominicans dont work so this is irrelevant !!
There is a backlog in the courts - in the deportation courts. And some of the Blue States - like NY and CA - are going to throw up impediments. I expect some of the agricultural states will as well once they figure out they will not get their crops picked (I can not for the life of me figure out why the agribusinesses are not fined within an inch of their lives if they are using illegals? there are reports that the Wisconsin dairy industry is based almost entirely on illegals caring for cows? how can this be? do not know... not enough journalists in the field)
Dominicans dont work so this is irrelevant !!
You and I know this isn't true once one gets out of the Dominican barrios in the USA. Where we live in southern NJ, there are plenty of assimilated Dominicans, many of them business owners. Their kids are very American.
Then there are those like my husband's sister, who was "bored" living in a good, upper middle class area, and moved to Washington Heights to be with "her people" 30 years ago and never crawled back out
Like anything else, "it depends".
Trump is after ALL immigrants, legal or not. The "why do we have to bring people from those XXXX countries" and the attempts to end family unification is proof of this.
Aside from minor kids and spouses CITIZENS can also bring in adult kids, parents and siblings. This is hardly the "bringing in the entire village filled with terrorists and unproductive people" that Trump and his merry brand of xenophobes suggests.
It also shows that Trump's biases blind him to a fact. Black African immigrants are considerably MORE educated than are white Americans. Now why wouldn't the USA want these types of immigrants, especially as many have degrees in STEM, healthcare and finance/accounting?