Pedro Clisante at night is like a police state.

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woofsback

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well judging by the streets in Cabarete right now, looks like a lot of those girls have made the trip east of Sosua.....

like i said before....
look for any developements between sosua and cabarette
there's a reason the big clubs aren't being closed and the girls chased away

what did the street vendors do that was so wrong?
i'm quite sure 50 % would have found the money for a license
to stay open if they had to
yet they are being cleaned out of the area as well...

let's see...stores closed...no night life...no sellers...poliice intimidating ev1

good thing i come to sosua for other things than the girls
or i would have booked my vacation elsewhere :)
 
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Eddy

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Can someone explain PICHARDOS's clip

Other than watching a group of Dominicans (Didn't see very many tourists) having a great time, what does that have to do with the sh*t going on in Sosua.
 

mike l

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The only logical solution is to open an online escort agency for Sosua

Out of sight out of mind!
 
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Picardo often is inexplicable.

He has an agenda, but if you can figure out what it is exactly, you are a better man than I am.
 

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I realy wouldn't mind. They are clearly illegal businesses, and I wouldn't be surprised if they have a part in whats going on right now. They are loosing a lot of competition.
I think we all know why they are still in business.

Yes i wonder how much peter is paying the mayor--
 

Ken

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A point that I think has been missed by those complaining about the clean-up efforts presently underway is what caused it to happen. And that, I firmly believe, is the number of prostitutes that flocked into Sosua from Santo Domingo, Santiago, Haiti, and who knows where else, and then on top of that, the Haitian street children.

I've been living in Sosua for 10 years and the DR for 25. Prostitutes and bars have always been available for those who wanted them and the segment of the tourist population who wanted them had them, while those who were here for other reasons did their thing. You could walk down Pedro Clisante without fighting your way though prostitutes and drinkers filling the sidewalk and without being propositioned.

I don't think opportunities for sex and drink will ever be eliminated from Sosua, and I doubt that anyone in or out of the government thinks it will. But that part of the attraction needs to be lower key and should not be so in-your-face that it is all Sosua is known for.

We have to get back to where those so inclined can come for booze and women and the families can come for the Caribbean sun and sand. That isn't possible when you have situations such as I have heard about from several people, men who were walking with their wives, girl friends, or family and were propositioned by a girl on the street.

I know that happens. Recently the administrator of the condo where I live was leaving and walking toward the the publico stand near Playero at the same time as I was walking toward Playero, so we walked together. When crossing the street toward La Roca, a girl propositioned me, not knowing if the woman I was walking with was my wife or girl friend, or just a friend. If that happens to me, as old as I am, I have no doubt it is happening to others.

Another point that I think has been missed or ignored is that the mayor is not an appointed official. She was elected in an election when nearly every other official elected in the country represented the party of the president.

She was elected because the people who live here were very disturbed by what has been happening in Sosua and did not want it to continue as it presently is.
 
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You will get your town back Ken, no worries. But it will be a ghost town ... !? (just the way you like it) :bored:
 

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It is sad to see the powers to be are wrecking the only businesses that Sosua had. Resturants and bars were already slow.
Since this is all about $$$ it is going to hurt more pocketbooks than it is going to help.

Then what?s going to happen to the locals and their families who depend on the Sosua area for employment in one way or another? I am talking about many of them that actually live in the area, and have so for many years. They are the locals that are employed in restaurants, bars, hotels, etc. And with the possibilities of local business reducing or even closing down, what real opportunities do they have to be re-employed in other positions when Sosua downsizes PC and the tourism trade even more? This leads me to another question that hasn?t been really talked about because it may be pure speculation with the changes that are happening. And that is; can we expect crime to increase in the Sosua area given the expected affect that it will have on many of the locals and their income?
 

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Astonishing how eager authorities are to drive nails into the coffin of tourism. Not able to put enough food on the table of the general population and making it impossible to keep up with the rules and regulations of their double standards while themselves cheat on their wives in luxury villas paid by the drug trade and the diverted budget. Simply disgusting !
 
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Astonishing how eager authorities are to drive nails into the coffin of tourism. Not able to put enough food on the table of the general population and making it impossible to keep up with the rules and regulations of their double standards while themselves cheat on their wives in luxury villas paid by the drug trade and the diverted budget. Simply disgusting !
Some some strange reason I agree with you.
 
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There are those who would like nothing more than to make Sosua over into some sterile bubble-like enclave for the terminally feeble. They want nothing interesting to exist here, and they want nothing to disturb their preconceived notion of the perfect old-age home.

They will often mask their true desire with over-reaching claptrap rhetoric (see post #46). The bottom line is that they simply want things to be the way they want them. No other opinions need apply.

Such are the ones who gleefully start threads with such proclamations as "Sosua is dying." Do a search and see who started that thread. Do another search to see exactly who has a vested interest in making Sosua into some sort of vapid, hollow and listless retirement community.

These are the same clowns who are happily wishing Sosua ill now.
 

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A point that I think has been missed by those complaining about the clean-up efforts presently underway is what caused it to happen. And that, I firmly believe, is the number of prostitutes that flocked into Sosua from Santo Domingo, Santiago, Haiti, and who knows where else, and then on top of that, the Haitian street children.

I've been living in Sosua for 10 years and the DR for 25. Prostitutes and bars have always been available for those who wanted them and the segment of the tourist population who wanted them had them, while those who were here for other reasons did their thing. You could walk down Pedro Clisante without fighting your way though prostitutes and drinkers filling the sidewalk and without being propositioned.

I don't think opportunities for sex and drink will ever be eliminated from Sosua, and I doubt that anyone in or out of the government thinks it will. But that part of the attraction needs to be lower key and should not be so in-your-face that it is all Sosua is known for.

We have to get back to where those so inclined can come for booze and women and the families can come for the Caribbean sun and sand. That isn't possible when you have situations such as I have heard about from several people, men who were walking with their wives, girl friends, or family and were propositioned by a girl on the street.

I know that happens. Recently the administrator of the condo where I live was leaving and walking toward the the publico stand near Playero at the same time as I was walking toward Playero, so we walked together. When crossing the street toward La Roca, a girl propositioned me, not knowing if the woman I was walking with was my wife or girl friend, or just a friend. If that happens to me, as old as I am, I have no doubt it is happening to others.

Another point that I think has been missed or ignored is that the mayor is not an appointed official. She was elected in an election when nearly every other official elected in the country represented the party of the president.

She was elected because the people who live here were very disturbed by what has been happening in Sosua and did not want it to continue as it presently is.

Sorry Ken, but you just don't understand it at all. It's not a general clean up, they just want to remove the competition from the the guys that pays in the right pockets.
Yes, they have removed most of the Haitien street yougsters, but most of the other street trash is still on the sidewalks.
While conservative dressed, good looking, well behaved girls, who never approach anybody (they get approched), are getting a hard time and also arrested by the police, mentally ill and out of control people are still on the sidewalks.
One and a half week ago, before the curtains came up, but after the harrasment had started, I was sitting at Merengue, and this Haitian women, probably in here 40's was roaming outside on the sidewalk, screaming and yelling, waving with a big empty bottle, threatening everyone. Someone could easely been serious hurt or even killed. This went on for more than an hour, but ofcourse the police did nothing.
 

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Then what?s going to happen to the locals and their families who depend on the Sosua area for employment in one way or another? I am talking about many of them that actually live in the area, and have so for many years. They are the locals that are employed in restaurants, bars, hotels, etc. And with the possibilities of local business reducing or even closing down, what real opportunities do they have to be re-employed in other positions when Sosua downsizes PC and the tourism trade even more? This leads me to another question that hasn?t been really talked about because it may be pure speculation with the changes that are happening. And that is; can we expect crime to increase in the Sosua area given the expected affect that it will have on many of the locals and their income?

The answer is simple ...they will rob Ken's house !

Clown 1
 

mike l

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The weird thing is that they not only promote the idea that the DR is the Monaco of the Caribbean but might really believe in that crap.

The only similarity of the DR and Monaco is we have to wear our helmets within the city limits.

And there is No Jimmy Z's Disco in this principalaty.

Monaco Mike
 

rsg

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This is what the so-called visionaries wanted.

These roving gangs of bandits are a far worse blight on Sosua than all the hoards of prostitutes, shoe-shine boys, and vendors combined. And it is extremely difficult to "just say no" to these gun toting ladrones.

Of course, it is not just the girls and shoe-shine boys who are being shaken-down. Several gringo friends of mind have been randomly stopped and questioned about where they are going, where they live, and if they were aware that Christmas is just around the corner. My friends were also informed that the police could be very helpful to gringos in need of assistance. i think you get the picture, no?

If anyone thinks this type of behavior is funny, just wait until you are stopped by a band of automatic weapon-waving thugs, eager for a handout. It is not a joke, and it is not at all enticing to tourists.

It is truly a sad state of affairs indeed.

Very well said cather...Having millitary patrolling for hookers is just a perfect example of what a joke the curent regime is..This will surely turn tourist away more then a few hookers and hard working Dominicans selling some very good chicken...

Lets just sit back and watch the people get desperate with no tourist $$$$, and watch the crime rise..:pirate:

To sum it up, Sosua is not, and will never become a first class tourist destination..It is what it is...The beach is full of empty shacks, and there are more vacant lots and buildings then in Detroit U.S.A......

Yea, i can see it now after the Super Bowl, Hey, Tom Brady what are you doing after the game? I'M going to Sosua....Yea right..
 
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