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POP airport and the conspiracy
SANTO DOMINGO, DOMINICAN REPUBLIC, April 19, 2018 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Representatives from Dominican Republic’s Puerto Plata Tourism Cluster (CTDPP) highlighted the region’s trending visitor arrivals and hotel projects at the 2018 Dominican Annual Tourism Exchange (DATE) conference. Most notably, cruise arrivals to Amber Cove increased 20 percent compared to 2016, welcoming 490,873 passengers in 2017. It was also noted that Amber Cove anticipates welcoming 700,000-plus cruise passengers this year.
Over 1,000,000 passengers annually pass through POP.
Nearly 2,000,000 passengers through Cibao.
The premise of the OP is pure junk.
https://globenewswire.com/news-rele...rism-Developments-and-Cultural-Offerings.html
Over 1,000,000 passengers annually pass through POP.
Nearly 2,000,000 passengers through Cibao.
The premise of the OP is pure junk.
https://globenewswire.com/news-rele...rism-Developments-and-Cultural-Offerings.html
60% of the Countries flights coming into the Country? I think your numbers are way off, Do you have the actual stats I would like to see that.
700 000 + at amber cove this year ? Call me a sceptic but i dont even believe the 490 873 passengers in 2017. I could be wrong though, as maybe 96.87% stayed on the ships when they docked at amber cove.
The main problem with Puerto Plata airport is the rise of Punta Cana and the brand new huge resorts out there, Punta Cana has the nice roads and the large infrastructure for the tourism.Puerto platas resorts for the most part are very old and much smaller than those in PC. 30 years ago when I started coming to the DR, Playa dorada was packed, every hotel was packed all the time. I also think the demographics on the north coast has changed over the years, Used to be many flights from Germany, Spain, England and even Russia. I think the majority of tourists on the North Coast nowadays are Canadian and American, The Americans save a substantial amount of money flying into Santiago, which on avg is at least 100 dollars cheaper and many times closer to 200 dollars cheaper than POP. Many of the European flights are no longer daily and many are just seasonal as well as many Canadian flights.
I have been seeing many people from the cruise ships on Sosua beach the last 2 months, I didnt see them before that,but lately they are there. You will see all the taxi drivers with the green shirts mingling in the middle of the beach, while their customers enjoy the beach. I hope it continues, so that the businesses in Sosua do well.
Pablo the pilot told me that more than half of all flights coming into the DR land at PUJ. Don't know if it reaches 60% though. And he knows what he is talking about for sure.
Might be a bit less... like 50+%... but waaaay above all the others.
Even at 50%+... that's as much as all the others combined
Wait --- got something
http://www.jac.gob.do/transparencia...2017/Air Transport Statistics Report 2017.pdf
low 50's.....2 yrs ago....
A newer report is higher - as I recall..
seems to go up every yr in PUJ
I agree with the above post and with the OP's initial comments. It is a combination of aging resorts and infrastructure primarily that reduced demand for flights. As the flights were removed from POP, the prices of the available seats went up. The hotels were turned into condos as the owners sold out and maximized their profits as hotel occupancy dropped. The great interest in Punta Cana was a significant factor in fewer people being interested in the north coast. Any differences in costs to land at POP versus STI, SDQ or PUJ airports are just a contributing factor if they exist at all.
Perhaps VINCI Airports would be a source of information on any fee differences:
6 airports in the Dominican Republic
5M+
passengers welcomed by Aerodom airports in 2018
3.8M
passengers welcomed by Las Americas airport alone
Acquired in December 2015 from the investment fund Advent International, Aerodom is the concession holder for six of the nine airports in the Dominican Republic, including the capital: Santo Domingo and Puerto Plata. Operation transferred to VINCI Airports in April 2016 under the terms of this concession contract, which runs until 2030.
Another thing I think was happening in the past that went agains all the other areas was the excemption law that was only applying to Punta Cana area made that all investment went to Punta Cana, also the goverment promotion was only for Punta Cana. Mexican market made realize to the goberment Mitur ministery realize that not every body likes the same thing and there was time to promote all the beauty that has the whole country to offer and actually they are promoting more another destinations and not Punta Cana, they dont need promotion. The promotion of the Punta Cana first year in Mexicon city fail, that year only came 7,000 Mexicans, then they decided to promote Santo Domingo and move to a 2nd plane beaches and that year came almost 14,000 Mexicans, thats why now you see Mitur talking about whole country.
Puerto Plata still has a lot things to do, and find out the way to make some more all inclusive, and with the cruise ship we could see more flights if some of them make Puerto Plata Home port.
Long haul traffic to POP is certainly down. To cite one airline that's been flying from Germany to POP for the last 25 years and recently cancelled the route. The explanation I got from Condor was simply that they make more money flying to other destinations.
The fares from Germany to POP were not cheap either, yet every flight was always full. There has to be something very wrong when they cancel a route on costs rather than demand.
Ditto Thomson UK, Thomas Cook UK, Thomas Cook Scandinavia and XL France. All regular flyers to POP in the past.
The fares from Germany to POP were not cheap either, yet every flight was always full. There has to be something very wrong when they cancel a route on costs rather than demand.
Ditto Thomson UK, Thomas Cook UK, Thomas Cook Scandinavia and XL France. All regular flyers to POP in the past.
If these carriers are routinely flying to destinations in the DR other than POP there would seem to be only two contributing factors: The cost to fly to POP and the demand for seats on that route. If the demand is high and the flights are suspended, then it has to be the cost.
these numbers are not correct.
for 2018 it was:
TOTAL PASAJEROS 7,220,334
LAS AMERICAS 1,837,689
PUERTO PLATA 438,935
PUNTA CANA 3,944,536
LA ROMANA 100,773
CIBAO 786,707
LA ISABELA 25,685
EL CATEY, SAMANA 86,009
I heard that American Airlines pays to have the S. Florida - POP route as a monopoly. The prices of the tickets were so high that people were using the STI airport more, hence AA added 2nd flight and now prices have come down a bit.
Also what kind of passengers, Turist, Dominicans residents, Dominicans not residents, residents, etc. For example in PUJ arround 99% of the passengers are turist, but SDQ 13.8% is turist and 86.2 are Dominicans, Dominicans non residents and residents.