You can't paint with a broad brush like that. For every baller Jet Blue guy there is a peso pinching Jet Blue guy staying at Rockys or Seabreeze or Las Palmeras Hotel for 25-40 bucks a night eating ham sandwiches and pico pollo,more of those kind of brothers than big spenders actually.
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So, someone like Your friend, who paid a Salida "unknowingly" should be thrown in jail by the PN for a week. They can base it on the fact he doesn't know her name or birthday... lol
But We are talking about SOSUA,, in ONE DAY... just in case that was not clear ...
Who else in Sosua drops that kind of cash, every day ?
I will even go so far as to say that even the CRUISE ships currently docking in Amber Cove do not pump that kind of money into the Local Economy... and most definitely NOT in Sosua .
That $100 a day per Cruiser was highly over hyped .. more like $20 per passenger , if they even leave the Cove.
No. I think me technically lol because I told him it was ok not realizing she had planned to take the night off to render services.
I have to dispute the $250 per day spending average and would love to see a study that says the average daily spend of a sex tourist in Sosua is that high.
Here is my argument:
1) I can blow through more than that in a day which I have debated here where others said there was no way I could possibly spend that amount in a day in Sosua. So if that's a confortable average why was is so shocking to Sosua experts here that I could possibly spend that daily?
2) In 2004, 2005 I worked in real estate in Sosua and in 2014 I owned a restaurant there. I know a lot of mongers - those who live there, are weekend warriors and to couple of month stints like me. I had guys asking for credit for the week for a daily 150RD breakfast. Especially with the restaurant I met ALOT of different people, shared and overheard a lot. I have a pretty good idea of the type of spending I see.
I go to Flow and Classico from time to time when in party bender mode. I saw a monger flip a table once because someone knocked over is president. I am having a hard time seeing that as an average. I have people say I spend way to much - including mongers. I see the guys ordering the cheapie small bottles of the lower end alcohols... They don't look like $250 per day spenders to me at all - and that is a generalized because I know a couple of pretty wealthy sex tourists but again you don't see them out trolling PC acting like ballers. I remember one night in Latin Drink when these "ballers" through a stack of $1 bills into a blowing machine like they were P. Diddy or something and for that $50 of $1 the people damn near trampled each other....
3) I am out all the time and just don't see it - some focus on the lower end and Hatian girls (I am not saying they are worth any less) so that they can pay less. I have heard the bragging in the mornings in places like Nu Café and Baileys.
That also if it applied that would more speak to a weekend warrior getting girls and partying - they breeze in for 3-4 days max usually so what's that? $1k into the economy per guy. Many mongers I know struggle to pull off $500 per mo if they are long term renters in Sosua. Sometimes they come in in nice places for a couple of months, then as the money runs out and they go to cheaper accommodations - those dudes do not have a $250 budget. Some of them are stretching a pension to live. I hear a lot of conversation about that too.
When in Sosua myself I can easily spend $10k per month US (outside of my condo and car rental). Add to that friends, colleagues and family who used to come who can spend on par with that - and that's not for 5 days, that's for a month or two.
In the places I stay I often meet people like me. Not families with children - 20 and 30 something couples, singles, snowbirds etc. You don't see them on the strip - they stay on property or go to local establishments closer to the Alejo Martinez side.
That is good tourism - people who can afford to stay for longer periods and spend more.
Oh and don't kid yourselves either like "this element of Sosua does not exist" because I have faced times 2-3 months ahead when I cannot even get a reservation in IB or Hispanola because they are fully booked - and they have a lot of units!
Here is my argument:
1) I can blow through more than that in a day which I have debated here where others said there was no way I could possibly spend that amount in a day in Sosua. So if that's a confortable average why was is so shocking to Sosua experts here that I could possibly spend that daily?
2) In 2004, 2005 I worked in real estate in Sosua and in 2014 I owned a restaurant there. I know a lot of mongers - those who live there, are weekend warriors and to couple of month stints like me. I had guys asking for credit for the week for a daily 150RD breakfast. Especially with the restaurant I met ALOT of different people, shared and overheard a lot. I have a pretty good idea of the type of spending I see.
I go to Flow and Classico from time to time when in party bender mode. I saw a monger flip a table once because someone knocked over is president. I am having a hard time seeing that as an average. I have people say I spend way to much - including mongers. I see the guys ordering the cheapie small bottles of the lower end alcohols... They don't look like $250 per day spenders to me at all - and that is a generalized because I know a couple of pretty wealthy sex tourists but again you don't see them out trolling PC acting like ballers. I remember one night in Latin Drink when these "ballers" through a stack of $1 bills into a blowing machine like they were P. Diddy or something and for that $50 of $1 the people damn near trampled each other....
3) I am out all the time and just don't see it - some focus on the lower end and Hatian girls (I am not saying they are worth any less) so that they can pay less. I have heard the bragging in the mornings in places like Nu Café and Baileys.
That also if it applied that would more speak to a weekend warrior getting girls and partying - they breeze in for 3-4 days max usually so what's that? $1k into the economy per guy. Many mongers I know struggle to pull off $500 per mo if they are long term renters in Sosua. Sometimes they come in in nice places for a couple of months, then as the money runs out and they go to cheaper accommodations - those dudes do not have a $250 budget. Some of them are stretching a pension to live. I hear a lot of conversation about that too.
When in Sosua myself I can easily spend $10k per month US (outside of my condo and car rental). Add to that friends, colleagues and family who used to come who can spend on par with that - and that's not for 5 days, that's for a month or two.
In the places I stay I often meet people like me. Not families with children - 20 and 30 something couples, singles, snowbirds etc. You don't see them on the strip - they stay on property or go to local establishments closer to the Alejo Martinez side.
That is good tourism - people who can afford to stay for longer periods and spend more.
Oh and don't kid yourselves either like "this element of Sosua does not exist" because I have faced times 2-3 months ahead when I cannot even get a reservation in IB or Hispanola because they are fully booked - and they have a lot of units!
that might very well be true, but at least they are paying good money for the trim. i remember seeing a Haitian girl take a brick to a guy's jeepeta, because she spent 3 days with him, and he offered her 1000 pesos. at least the girls are happy with what they get from the Jet Blue gang. Picaflor was doing pretty well with them.
Yep - a lot of the fights with the girls boil down to guys who receive services and then don't want to pay or want to negotiate down after the fact.
i agree with you about the repetitiveness, but until the central dynamics change, then the topic will remain the same. bigbird and i have summarized the central issue in this thread.
Gee Cjewell, you can really make it rain. However, the tourism numbers come from the government and are the only ones that I am confident about.
Lots of ways to look at the monger numbers. If Elvis really is guilty of what he is accused, he must have been raking in $5000 to $10,000 per day by himself.
By the way, New Café is a great place for breakfast.
Lots of ways to look at the monger numbers. If Elvis really is guilty of what he is accused, he must have been raking in $5000 to $10,000 per day by himself.
By the way, New Café is a great place for breakfast.
Of course it is. You can see where there can be conflict between Sosua and the DR, with it being a very large part of the revenue for Sosua and a very small number for the DR. Sosua would be motivated to make it look like they are trying to solve the problem, without really losing any revenue.
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