If the girls are working on their own I don't think there's much they can do about it, (although apparently Dominguez Brito thinks otherwise), but if they are "sponsored" by bars they should be banned from the streets also.
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Sosua Bars Must Close Fronts
If the girls are working on their own I don't think there's much they can do about it, (although apparently Dominguez Brito thinks otherwise), but if they are "sponsored" by bars they should be banned from the streets also.
I think they were locking up girls for walking around unaccompanied at night not long ago? I remember the girls would ask a guy to walk with them from point A to point B so they wouldn't get arrested.
If you recall, Brito has not said he is going after the girls, he stated that he was going to go after the Johns.
That's against the law. A typical case of some punk who thinks he or she can make their own rules and take the matter into their own hands. Part of the problem, not of the solution. But hey, this is DR for you...
Which is against the law, also, and serves the same purpose. How can you be the country's general attorney and not respect the law?
Guess I can't sit at Seamonkeys place anymore on a early Sunday morning eating breakfast and enjoying the quiet street. Now I will have to be locked away in a cage eating my eggs and and bacon like a good little patron.
We are not a bar...this only affects bar (discos)....don't you worry you will see everything just fine.
Brito is using a "liberal interpretation" of the law in the human trafficking area to justify the arrests of Johns.
There is no way this rule and the others being talked about are to increase tourism because it is the opposite of what they should actually be doing. This is a plan to make money in some way....otherwise these moves would be linked up with some tourist attractions or hotels being added. Something to bring in more people at the same time clean up the town. There is no way its the new cruise port because that will barely be noticed in Sosua.
This whole new regime and makeover reminds me of what happened to my home town back in the mid 90s'. I'm from a mining town in Northern Ontario of 170,000 people, the mining industry built the town. The new mayor was somehow convinced that the future of our town was in Call Centres. He spend all of our tax money attracting these american companies to set up shop in our town, he spent all our tax money on fiber optic cables, he spent all our tax money on housing these call centres. He ignored the high paying mining industry and focused on these minimum wage jobs. The call centres came and left withing 7 years and many didn't even pay their employees severance. Duting these years our town suffered.
So which industry is still in our town? mining and it always will be. Sosua is the same...it is not "build it and they will come".
It is what it is...Puta Ville.
So which industry is still in our town? mining and it always will be. Sosua is the same...it is not "build it and they will come".
It is what it is...Puta Ville.
I have remained neutral on most of this stuff because frankly none of makes a bit of difference to me or how I live my life here. But I just have to say this was stupid two years ago and it is still stupid now. Do they take a poll or ask anyone whether something would be a good idea before just going off and mandating it? Apparently not.
This is not going to do any good as far as I can tell. What it is going to do is **** off the bar owners that actually contribute to the local economy again. From all the expats that I know who live here, I can count on one hand the ones who have said they are so offended by what goes on inside the bars.
And these magical family tourists, where are they? If they are going to put all this time and money into making these changes to improve tourism they better have a strong advertising campaign ready to follow up with some real things that family tourists want to have in their vacation package behind it. Anybody think that is really going to happen because I don't.
What do we/Sosua have to offer a family tourist? Even if the beach was cleaned up and was top notch, you can get that in a lot of other places that have way more to offer than Sosua does. Sosua is a long way from being able to compete with any of the popular family tourist spots and needs more than a spring cleaning to get there.
This is not going to do any good as far as I can tell. What it is going to do is **** off the bar owners that actually contribute to the local economy again. From all the expats that I know who live here, I can count on one hand the ones who have said they are so offended by what goes on inside the bars.
And these magical family tourists, where are they? If they are going to put all this time and money into making these changes to improve tourism they better have a strong advertising campaign ready to follow up with some real things that family tourists want to have in their vacation package behind it. Anybody think that is really going to happen because I don't.
What do we/Sosua have to offer a family tourist? Even if the beach was cleaned up and was top notch, you can get that in a lot of other places that have way more to offer than Sosua does. Sosua is a long way from being able to compete with any of the popular family tourist spots and needs more than a spring cleaning to get there.
Was Passions a sponsored bar? Close enough to being one imho. Look what happened there.
Closing in the bars is a horrible idea. It didn't work in the past like numerous people said.
Can you imagine how hot D Latins is going to be? Wow! Maybe people will go back into Classico and Club 59. Lets wait and see.
I remember that. Very stupid idea as well. This isn't the middle east. I remember my wife was afraid to walk from one place to another without me. I told her they were only messing with the prostitutes but as she said they don't know who is or who isn't and it is an easy way for a cop to extort money from a woman who is not as well. I didn't look the mandate up closely at the time but supposedly if you weren't going to a job you couldn't be walking alone during certain hours.
My guess is that the "closing in" of bars is not seen as a solution, but just a way to harass the bar owners that facilitate the puta trade. They can't possibly think that closing all these businesses in is a good idea. Once the Pedro Clisante night life is gone they will probably be open air again.
It's just part of a multi-pronged attack. Raid a few bars, harass others with closing in, harass a few johns, harass a few chicas. Build a sewage plant, widen some roads, revitalize the beach and surrounding area, build a cruise ship port and you're on your way.
It's just part of a multi-pronged attack. Raid a few bars, harass others with closing in, harass a few johns, harass a few chicas. Build a sewage plant, widen some roads, revitalize the beach and surrounding area, build a cruise ship port and you're on your way.
You hit on some good points. However, no poll is going to include expats that are not citizens as well.
I see it this way: Dominican leadership including the Attorney General, Tourism Ministers, Cruise Ship Port investors and Powerful Condo Developers influence road construction, Sosua Beach Renovation and the shutting down as much as possible of the hooker trade (of which Dominicans are not exactly proud).
Those factions are far more powerful than any expat or John.
So if I get this right:-
It's OK for our imaginary, innocent families and their yet unsullied kids to be on the beach during the day or at the cruise terminal and see all sorts of people with almost no clothing on drinking booze and frolicking in the waves or toasting their unclad skin without this turning these vulnerable little heads to slavering, lustful monsters, but seeing fully (almost) dressed folks having a couple of beers and hanging out with the opposite sex in a bar in a little bit of PC will immediately corrupt the poor souls?
You couldn't make this up........
PS.
Passions was already closed to prying eyes, as is CMP so what's the big deal with the others.
Is it true we have another 4 years of this ineptness?
It's OK for our imaginary, innocent families and their yet unsullied kids to be on the beach during the day or at the cruise terminal and see all sorts of people with almost no clothing on drinking booze and frolicking in the waves or toasting their unclad skin without this turning these vulnerable little heads to slavering, lustful monsters, but seeing fully (almost) dressed folks having a couple of beers and hanging out with the opposite sex in a bar in a little bit of PC will immediately corrupt the poor souls?
You couldn't make this up........
PS.
Passions was already closed to prying eyes, as is CMP so what's the big deal with the others.
Is it true we have another 4 years of this ineptness?
I like having a beer at Rumbas. Especially when you could sit at a table on the sidewalk.
New city rule 2 years ago - no tables on sidewalk! So the owner moved the tables onto the side patio and put a roof over it. IMO that significantly cut the air flow through the place, and now even with open walls, the place is a little too hot (and smoky!) for my likings.
If they have to now enclose the place, well, way too hot I think. Bye-bye to me. I'll have a cold beer out on my cool porch from now on.
New city rule 2 years ago - no tables on sidewalk! So the owner moved the tables onto the side patio and put a roof over it. IMO that significantly cut the air flow through the place, and now even with open walls, the place is a little too hot (and smoky!) for my likings.
If they have to now enclose the place, well, way too hot I think. Bye-bye to me. I'll have a cold beer out on my cool porch from now on.
I agree. I have never seen families walking around Sosua, period. The only children I have seen are the shoe shine kids and the ones that hold an umbrella for you when you get out of the car during a rain shower. Any families that are walking on P/C are lost.
I have not even seen a tourist couple having dinner, out and around P/C for quite some time. The last time I went to a very popular restaurant / hotel that's across the main street and up the hill (I wont name it), it was filled with pay for play couples.
Not that there is any thing wrong with that.