Teen's Skull Smashed At Resort

Ecoman1949

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I dislike propaganda. Why is getting sick at an AI news? let me know if you have any updates about the serious assault.
I’m going to try and explain this in simple terms so you will understand the point of this thread. It’s not about getting sick at AI’s. It’s about how the resort guests were treated by resort staff and, in the first incident, the DR private medical system, when they needed assistance for medical reasons. It’s about the lack of assistance from resort staff during life threatening situations, and the blatant attempts by resort staff to cover up their negligence.
 

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I’m going to try and explain this in simple terms so you will understand the point of this thread. It’s not about getting sick at AI’s. It’s about how the resort guests were treated by resort staff and, in the first incident, the DR private medical system, when they needed assistance for medical reasons. It’s about the lack of assistance from resort staff during life threatening situations, and the blatant attempts by resort staff to cover up their negligence.
But do you not agree that we are only hearing one side of the story in most of these situations?
 

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But do you not agree that we are only hearing one side of the story in most of these situations?
Of course. The information contained in these threads is mainly from the people who encountered the life threatening medical situations and the news articles generated as a result of the incidents. In the most recent case, the news article included information from the resort operator. The gentlemen’s account of how he was treated totally contradicts the corporate response. The information contained in this thread contains some facts, and a lot of unanswered questions because the resort staff won’t answer them. In the case of the December 2023 incident the truth will come out during the lawsuit trial unless Wyndham and AirTransat settle out of court and require an NDA as part of the settlement.
 
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As with cruise ships, etc., I am sure that these types of incidents happen frequently given the volume of guests. We do not hear about them until the involved parties bring it to the attention of the public/media. I am sure these resorts are used to lawsuits being filed so I am assuming that is why the staff does not provide answers. I am pretty sure most companies have policies about staff discussing details of any type of incidents that occur. It is also a privacy issue. Hopefully the young man who was involved in an assault does well in the future.
 

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I’m going to try and explain this in simple terms so you will understand the point of this thread. It’s not about getting sick at AI’s. It’s about how the resort guests were treated by resort staff and, in the first incident, the DR private medical system, when they needed assistance for medical reasons. It’s about the lack of assistance from resort staff during life threatening situations, and the blatant attempts by resort staff to cover up their negligence.
Wrong!
 
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CR I don’t want to minimize what happened to them, it’s heartbreaking and terrible, but I have to question why they were the only people who got sick? It was a buffet at a large hotel, a lot of other people ate there that night.
There may indeed have been more yet not mentioned in the article I read about the lawsuit. If there were more, the hotel certainly was not going to say so, and perhaps the family/lawyers are not going to publicize it before the lawsuit is heard/settled. I'm no lawyer....no se :)
 

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Well Sir Wind they certainly have a level of responsibility. Think of slipping, falling and fracturing your leg. They no doubt over served this neanderthal. It is an unusual situation for sure. The staff should have taken note of his beer muscles and kicked him out or cut him off.
That might be true in principle, but this is the DR not some bar in NY City where such a practice might actually be in place.
 

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So how can we monitor what happens to the thug who destroyed this families' lives ?
Will we ever know what precipitated the attack?
Will the family have to come back to testify ?
 

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Medical ethics and the payment of fees before treatment
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Legally16,17 and ethically,18 where emergency medical treatment is required, doctors cannot refuse to treat persons who cannot afford to pay in advance, which applies whether this is a first-time or regular patient.
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This would be an emergency, for a doctor it would normally be: help first, ask questions/money later..
Are you trying to quote a law in the DR?
 

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With more than 11 million travelers expected this year, why wouldn't a local insurance company sell required medical insurance coverage to every traveler for a few weeks and charge 4-5 bucks for it?

Seems to me that would be a gold mine.

Could you include it in the price of the ticket?
JD, trying to apply common sense to a situation in the DR? Come on, we all know better than that. no?

People travelling out of their home country should have the personal responsibility to insure themselves, however they see fit,
for their travel plans.

I also see some people assuming out of hand that Doctors in the DR take the Hippocratic oath... I think not, but I am not a member of this site which might unlock that detail.


There are many stories in the DR of no medical coverage at private clinics without proof of payment. This is just another one.
 

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So how can we monitor what happens to the thug who destroyed this families' lives ?
That might not happen.
Will we ever know what precipitated the attack?
That might not happen
Will the family have to come back to testify ?
If there was a court case? Yes the family member prosecuting the case would almost certainly have to be here to carry the case forward or the accused would walk.

Many people seem not to understand how systems they are used to back home do not apply in the DR>
 
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Instead of just giving one word responses like "Wrong!", "False!" or "Bogus!" when you disagree with a comment, how about giving your reasons so that we can see if your own thoughts are wrong, false or bogus?
Saw a picture of a cockpit in a Supermarine Spitfire years ago. On the dash was a decal, “Engage brain before starting engine.” Applicable to many conversations. That and a line spoken by Peter O'Toole in the movie The Last Emperor Stuck in my memory. He was hired as a tutor for the young emperor. The necessity for proper conversation was the topic. He told the emperor,”If you can’t say what you mean, you won’t mean what you say.” Wise advice.
 
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That might not happen.

That might not happen

If there was a court case? Yes the family member prosecuting the case would almost certainly have to be here to carry the case forward or the accused would walk.

Many people seem not to understand how systems they are used to back home do not apply in the DR>
There’s a better chance of Trump becoming a Democrat than the mother returning to the DR. She is DR done!
 
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So how can we monitor what happens to the thug who destroyed this families' lives ?
Will we ever know what precipitated the attack?
Will the family have to come back to testify ?
CB. I’m guessing the attacker will be left to stew in his own juices in a DR jail before being deported/ returned to Canada. Don’t know what his financial resources are, if he can grease a few palms, it might shorten his stay. No way in hell the mother is coming back to the DR.
 

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That might be true in principle, but this is the DR not some bar in NY City where such a practice might actually be in place.
Rarely do I agree with Big but he is right in this case. The liquor flows freely at DR resorts and the bar staff get tipped well by drunken clients. Fights, arguments, lewd advances toward females at the resorts, are not a rarity. Due primarily to excess alcohol consumption. Seems like many AI guests don’t feel they are getting their money‘s worth unless they overeat and drink excessively at the buffets and bars. Most resort staff turn a blind eye to the problem. They want these people to be repeat customers.
 
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Rarely do I agree with Big but he is right in this case. The liquor flows freely at DR resorts and the bar staff get tipped well by drunken clients. Fights, arguments, lewd advances toward females at the resorts, are not a rarity. Due primarily to excess alcohol consumption. Seems like many AI guests don’t feel they are getting their money‘s worth unless they overeat and drink excessively at the buffets and bars. Most resort staff turn a blind eye to the problem. They want these people to be repeat customers.
Thank the gods I don't go to AI resorts.

Some people want the government to be a nanny state, others want AI resort staff to watch over 18 year olds drinking. An 18 year old is an adult and responsible for their own actions.
 

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Instead of just giving one word responses like "Wrong!", "False!" or "Bogus!" when you disagree with a comment, how about giving your reasons so that we can see if your own thoughts are wrong, false or bogus?
Why, He is clearly on some bizarre smear campaign for all things D.R. He disparaged AI resorts, which is a cash cow here, the product is not for me but that's another story. They certainly could have been more helpful; however, it was not an employee that physically attacked the young lad. He also attacked the D.R medical system. How about this, I am fully insured and financed. I have managed my affairs. Why should I have to wait behind some fatso from an AI seeking treatment for gastritis or some uninsured sloth from jersey who cut his hand on a broken beer bottle.. I pay for premium insurance and expect a higher level of service, and I get it. People should receive basic life support, just like this young lad did. This attack was the fault of the jerk that slammed him to the ground, not the resort, not the surgeon.
 
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Rarely do I agree with Big but he is right in this case. The liquor flows freely at DR resorts and the bar staff get tipped well by drunken clients. Fights, arguments, lewd advances toward females at the resorts, are not a rarity. Due primarily to excess alcohol consumption. Seems like many AI guests don’t feel they are getting their money‘s worth unless they overeat and drink excessively at the buffets and bars. Most resort staff turn a blind eye to the problem. They want these people to be repeat customers.
I'm sure you're right but if you go back to your room after dinner you won't see any of this shit. I've been to AIs about 10 times now in 6 years and never seen it
 
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I haven't been to an AI in over 15 years but, back when I was going to AI's, and I've been to well over a dozen, I never saw any of this type of behavior. I have no doubt this type of behavior is more common now. Cultural decline and decadence is more and more common and obvious every day.
 
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