It sure would add to peace and quiet. My neighbor had an old concrete wall in front of his property removed to replace it with something more decorative. He had 12 Haitians there for a week with sledge hammers breaking it apart and loading it to cart away. 1 guy with a jackhammer and 1 guy with a Bobcat could have done it in a day.
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What would happen to the DR if?
Tearing something down is different from putting something up. I doubt it that robots could do that.
We're not talking robots here. We're talking 30 men with shovels compared to 1 man with a frontend loader. When the cost of manual labor rises to the level of mechanized, 29 men become unemployed.
Or in your case of building vs. demolition, 30 men with wheelbarrows vs. 1 man with a concrete pump.
One thing is for sure, prices of construction and agriculture products would skyrocket, because you would have to fill those spaces with much higher paid labour, especially if this 'exodus' happened fast. Gernerally, labour rates would go up, for just about any type of menial labour, because you would not find low paid job workers as they would be filling in all the vacancies in construction and agriculture. So everything from maid service to gardners to landscapers and warehouse stackers, those rates would skyrocket.
You would save some money in social services, but the politicians would find a way to poket that savings.
You would save some money in social services, but the politicians would find a way to poket that savings.
For years now, young Dominicans gave up working the land.
While growing up, I keep hearing that arduous jobs such as sugar cane and construction should be left to the Hatians.
I don't think Dominicans would rush to fill these jobs if there were no Haitians to do them...
The question is "MUTE"!
It will NEVER HAPPEN!
I once facilitated the purchase of a huge mechanical "Trencher" to the owner of a big construction company here in the DR. He had a government contract to install a large diameter water line in the interior.He said that the only reson he needed the "trencher" was that he had to meet a "deadline" for completion of the project.Otherwise,he said it would be cheaper to have Haitians dig the trench with shovels,and we are talking,MILES, of trenching!
And with the "Haitianos",you get free "Fertilizer" all along the route!!!
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"CocoHeadBOY",."Cat Got Your Tongue"????????????????????????????
It will NEVER HAPPEN!
I once facilitated the purchase of a huge mechanical "Trencher" to the owner of a big construction company here in the DR. He had a government contract to install a large diameter water line in the interior.He said that the only reson he needed the "trencher" was that he had to meet a "deadline" for completion of the project.Otherwise,he said it would be cheaper to have Haitians dig the trench with shovels,and we are talking,MILES, of trenching!
And with the "Haitianos",you get free "Fertilizer" all along the route!!!
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"CocoHeadBOY",."Cat Got Your Tongue"????????????????????????????
One time I was talking to a Dominican, he told me that no Dominican wants to have a piece of land where Haitians lived before because their "fertilizer" messes up the soil. I was stunned because this remark came from a white high class Dominican, somebody with a university degree!!
Concreto vaciado against bloques, losas prefabricadas against platos echados. Not much maybe, but already something. More capital, more technology, less labour
Barnab?
Living Wage
The US would have to stop welfare payments to intice thier clients to take over from that work force, and the canewages would have to increase to a living wage for Dominicans, and the price of DR sugar would no longer compete in the world markets.
The US would have to stop welfare payments to intice thier clients to take over from that work force, and the canewages would have to increase to a living wage for Dominicans, and the price of DR sugar would no longer compete in the world markets.
Give it a rest already. Welfare Reform Act ws signed in 1996 by Bill Clinton ( btw, passed by Republican Congress). No federal welfare program since then except foid stamps.
The percentage of pretty girls on Pedro Clisante would automatically increase.
Haitians are as much needed as Dominicans elsewhere
Removing all Haitians from the DR will be impossible, unless another Trujillo comes along. That would be catastrophic to labor, since Dominicans rely on them for construction, farming and daily chores. It would be very negative. Haitians are good people in general, and immigration must be controlled like in any other country so we all get our fair share ( DR, USA, Venezuela, etc ).
The issue with Dominicans and Haitians date back to the DR 22-year occupation of 1822-1844 and back when the first one happened. Since local DR chiefs have long politicized the issue, some Dominicans still resent Haitian presence. Due to conflicts of interests, some powerful people will never allow Haitians to get normalized, because that way they will be paid higher salaries and enjoy all the benefits as local Dominicans, and that has a cost to the ones that employ them in big numbers.
"For greed all nature is too little".
Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Removing all Haitians from the DR will be impossible, unless another Trujillo comes along. That would be catastrophic to labor, since Dominicans rely on them for construction, farming and daily chores. It would be very negative. Haitians are good people in general, and immigration must be controlled like in any other country so we all get our fair share ( DR, USA, Venezuela, etc ).
The issue with Dominicans and Haitians date back to the DR 22-year occupation of 1822-1844 and back when the first one happened. Since local DR chiefs have long politicized the issue, some Dominicans still resent Haitian presence. Due to conflicts of interests, some powerful people will never allow Haitians to get normalized, because that way they will be paid higher salaries and enjoy all the benefits as local Dominicans, and that has a cost to the ones that employ them in big numbers.
"For greed all nature is too little".
Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Haitians are as much needed as Dominicans elsewhere
So where are Dominicans so needed?
So where are Dominicans so needed?
"OK",I HAVE To Say This!
Dominicans either "deny",or don't like to acknowledge,their "African Roots"!
Every dominican I know,likes to tell me that,"Mi Abuelo" was from Spain,he had white skin and blue eyes!
"Yeah Right"!
My beautiful(On The Outside) "nut Brown" Dominican wife claims the same thing!
I've seen the "pictures" they ain't from Spain! "Port of Spain",maybe!
The Haitians remind them of their "Common Ancestry" and they don't like the comparison.
They disparage their "Black Haitian Brothers and Sisters, and don't like being reminded that "EVERY Dominican has some "Black",behind their ears"!
What are the three things you will NEVER find in the Carribean???
A Cuban who is not a lier,a Puerto Rican who is not a thief,and a Dominican who is not "Black"!!!!!
I am proud to acknowledge my "Black Ancestry"!
My "ancestors" lived in the "Oldiviy Gorge" in Africa!
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Dominicans either "deny",or don't like to acknowledge,their "African Roots"!
Every dominican I know,likes to tell me that,"Mi Abuelo" was from Spain,he had white skin and blue eyes!
"Yeah Right"!
My beautiful(On The Outside) "nut Brown" Dominican wife claims the same thing!
I've seen the "pictures" they ain't from Spain! "Port of Spain",maybe!
The Haitians remind them of their "Common Ancestry" and they don't like the comparison.
They disparage their "Black Haitian Brothers and Sisters, and don't like being reminded that "EVERY Dominican has some "Black",behind their ears"!
What are the three things you will NEVER find in the Carribean???
A Cuban who is not a lier,a Puerto Rican who is not a thief,and a Dominican who is not "Black"!!!!!
I am proud to acknowledge my "Black Ancestry"!
My "ancestors" lived in the "Oldiviy Gorge" in Africa!
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I have heard many Dominicans admit their Black ancestry. My wife has no problem admitting hers, but she also acknowledges her Spanish, Jewish, and possible Japanese ancestry. Her aunts are her mother's side of the house look like native indians- wavy black hair( not kinky). Yris says her grandmother was very black ( colour) with naturally straight hair.
One day I mentioned to my daughter's mother that her ancestors were African and she got upset. Had to go on the internet and show it to her, she reluctantly accepted. Trust me she's not the only Dominican that thinks that way.
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My wife and her mother- both admit without reservation that they have black blood, but they also have Spanish, Jewish, and several other ethnic varieties.
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My wife and stepson - around 14 years ago. Jose by physical apperance doesn't show any sign of Black ancestry- his father is Colombian.
My wife and her mother- both admit without reservation that they have black blood, but they also have Spanish, Jewish, and several other ethnic varieties.
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My wife and stepson - around 14 years ago. Jose by physical apperance doesn't show any sign of Black ancestry- his father is Colombian.
My wife and her mother- both admit without reservation that they have black blood, but they also have Spanish, Jewish, and several other ethnic varieties.
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My wife and stepson - around 14 years ago. Jose by physical apperance doesn't show any sign of Black ancestry- his father is Colombian.
Now I understand, I sometime wonder about the remarks you made to me now I understand THANKS!!! Bob