Why do you live here and why do you stay living in the dr.

[DOC1727]

I remember how I hated the traffic cops in the dr stopping me for no other reason other than to extort money from me. Untill one day I was back in the states on business and was pulled over by a policemen for speeding. He had a very bad attitude to say the least and handed me over a ticket which was for a fine of $195 dollars. I had to go to driving school and in addition to paying the fine I had to pay the driving school and also later the DMV for clearance and lost a full day of work. At the end of it all this ended costing me well over $300 dollars. Now you tell me who's the biggest crooks the police in the US or in the dr which for a couple of dollars I would have had my hand shaken with a big smile and told to go on my way and even told have a nice day. All in less then 5 minutes. No ticket. No points. Nada.

I will take the dr freedom any day over the US so called freedom.

 

[JMB773]

I remember how I hated the traffic cops in the dr stopping me for no other reason other than to extort money from me. Untill one day I was back in the states on business and was pulled over by a policemen for speeding. He had a very bad attitude to say the least and handed me over a ticket which was for a fine of $195 dollars. I had to go to driving school and in addition to paying the fine I had to pay the driving school and also later the DMV for clearance and lost a full day of work. At the end of it all this ended costing me well over $300 dollars. Now you tell me who's the biggest crooks the police in the US or in the dr which for a couple of dollars I would have had my hand shaken with a big smile and told to go on my way and even told have a nice day. All in less then 5 minutes. No ticket. No points. Nada.

I will take the dr freedom any day over the US so called freedom.

I bet you don't speed anymore do you? If you want to speed, drink and drive, launder money, evade taxes, pick up hookers etc you can do this in the USA . A person is welcome to do anything they desire in the USA, but it is in your BEST interest not to break the law and get caught.

BTW That 300USD not a cent of it went into that officers hand nor did he create the law, his job his to enforce the laws on the books. If that fine was too much you had a chance to defend yourself before the judge.

 

[London_Calling]

What?s the problem about raising a kid in the RD?

The RD probably offers a good environment for raising children but what happens next - when they want to go for higher education, decent secure jobs, a career even - especially for young women the opportunities are very limited in the DR.

 

[DOC1727]

I bet you don't speed anymore do you? If you want to speed, drink and drive, launder money, evade taxes, pick up hookers etc you can do this in the USA . A person is welcome to do anything they desire in the USA, but it is in your BEST interest not to break the law and get caught.

BTW That 300USD not a cent of it went into that officers hand nor did he create the law, his job his to enforce the laws on the books. If that fine was too much you had a chance to defend yourself before the judge.

No but, it went into the system which is how they make money to pay the police so therefore, it is the same, just in the US it's called legal to take money from you however, this does not justify that it is not a pure scam to take money from the people. You got a lot to learn and a very long way to go before you figure this one out it appear from your statement.

 

[Givadogahome]

The DR has a good adult environment, a good social scene for adults to absorb the culture or what you can make out of it, for an adult. IMO it offers very little for the young, i didn't realise this until I had kids and considered the future for them. There is no right of passage as there is through cub scouts, brownies, girl guides, alsorts of social clubs and an entire social life that does not oly cater to those who can afford it, these things are a right of passage through childhood and they are not defined by the amount of finances the parents have to pay for these things, everyone has this right and is catered for together, from the poorest kids in town to the richest, they learn to mix and play together. DR has no such offerings for our kids, it is so much more shallow and for us, not the foundations we want ours to build her future on.
Bringing up your kids in or outside of the country does not define parents or children, only what we consider important and preferable. There is no right or wrong, just as there is no guidebook on being parents or kid, people. Although some have tried.

 

[caribmike]

Exactly that is what concerns me, too! If this (and some more...) would improve I wouldn't think of relocating...

The DR has a good adult environment, a good social scene for adults to absorb the culture or what you can make out of it, for an adult. IMO it offers very little for the young, i didn't realise this until I had kids and considered the future for them. There is no right of passage as there is through cub scouts, brownies, girl guides, alsorts of social clubs and an entire social life that does not oly cater to those who can afford it, these things are a right of passage through childhood and they are not defined by the amount of finances the parents have to pay for these things, everyone has this right and is catered for together, from the poorest kids in town to the richest, they learn to mix and play together. DR has no such offerings for our kids, it is so much more shallow and for us, not the foundations we want ours to build her future on.
Bringing up your kids in or outside of the country does not define parents or children, only what we consider important and preferable. There is no right or wrong, just as there is no guidebook on being parents or kid, people. Although some have tried.

 

[porkman100]

I remember how I hated the traffic cops in the dr stopping me for no other reason other than to extort money from me. Untill one day I was back in the states on business and was pulled over by a policemen for speeding. He had a very bad attitude to say the least and handed me over a ticket which was for a fine of $195 dollars. I had to go to driving school and in addition to paying the fine I had to pay the driving school and also later the DMV for clearance and lost a full day of work. At the end of it all this ended costing me well over $300 dollars. Now you tell me who's the biggest crooks the police in the US or in the dr which for a couple of dollars I would have had my hand shaken with a big smile and told to go on my way and even told have a nice day. All in less then 5 minutes. No ticket. No points. Nada.

I will take the dr freedom any day over the US so called freedom.

doc One time a traffic cop (prior to amet) told me to stop..i ignored him and keept going..he had a moto and gave chase, he said that he will have to take me in to police ststion i said fine...after a few fine take me in.. I said here and gave him more than he expected(only had big bills) he was so happy he said he can buy shoes for his kids(yea right) and volunteer to give me an escort to any place i was going.

 

[porkman100]

I bet you don't speed anymore do you? If you want to speed, drink and drive, launder money, evade taxes, pick up hookers etc you can do this in the USA . A person is welcome to do anything they desire in the USA, but it is in your BEST interest not to break the law and get caught.

BTW That 300USD not a cent of it went into that officers hand nor did he create the law, his job his to enforce the laws on the books. If that fine was too much you had a chance to defend yourself before the judge.

That 300 went to his pension fund...

 

[porkman100]

The RD probably offers a good environment for raising children but what happens next - when they want to go for higher education, decent secure jobs, a career even - especially for young women the opportunities are very limited in the DR.

London; young women through out the ages..have marry a good (whealthy) man..and done very well

 

[porkman100]

yes, i agree. but this is what people often mistake as freedom: ability to do as they please. which in DR comes at a price: everyone else too has that freedom
personally i enjoy the fact i can disrespect some (if not all ) traffic laws and i do not get stopped by the cops. the most you get in DR is a ticket. no one takes points off your licence.

Dv; with freedoms comes libertinaje (abuse of freedoms) we can make laws and more laws to make any human activity illegal and over regulate your life (like u.s.) or put up with the selfish behavior of this plebs

 

[Castle]

Can you tell me what freedom a person has in Santo Domingo that a person in West Hollywood CA does not have?

Well I think I enjoy here the most precious freedom of fall: freedom from fear. In many so-called developed countries people live in constant fear. They fear: terrorism, mass shootings, the government, serial killers, social pressure, diseases, and pretty much whatever there is to be afraid of.

 

[dv8]

well, i do not know about USA but in the UK there are plenty of community colleges offering different activities at a very low price. you can send your child to learn any language you can think of for very little. you can send it to archery or fencing classes. have it participate in any kind of sport activity.

i think an average kid (which is most of them, really) will do more or less the same regardless of the country it is schooled in. however, in poland, for instance, education is free (including universities) and the program is much wider and extensive (legacy of the communism). so at the end of the day they may learn a bit more for a lot less money

where DR lacks, i recon, is in taking care of special kids, both in a good and in a bad way. in europe/america mentally or physically challenged children can get government benefits to help the family through. there are group supports, streets and institutions are accessible for wheelchair users. doctors and hospitals are far better than DR when it comes to difficult cases (transplants, complicated surgeries, long term rehabilitation). similarly, talented children have more opportunities in europe/america: art schools, singing/dancing classes, availability of musical instruments, school and government grants.

finally, about DR being a better environment: i call BS. for a child a family is the first and most important environment. it is your love, care and attention. a loving, good family will bring up a happy child anywhere in the world. and if you are thinking about large dominican families? come on, you have relatives too. it is up to you to make it work.

 

[Mr_DR]

No but, it went into the system which is how they make money to pay the police so therefore, it is the same, just in the US it's called legal to take money from you however, this does not justify that it is not a pure scam to take money from the people. You got a lot to learn and a very long way to go before you figure this one out it appear from your statement.

In the US I feel that cops do not protect and serve like they are supposed to.

Instead they annoy and harass. I don't see why they need to follow you from
point "a" to point "b". That just causes a lot of people to get nervous because
you know that he is not following you so that you can get home safely, he is
just waiting there so that you can make a mistake or picking his brain to find
an excuse to stop you. Some of their excuses to stop you sometimes are hilarious.

 

[JMB773]

Well I think I enjoy here the most precious freedom of fall: freedom from fear. In many so-called developed countries people live in constant fear. They fear: terrorism, mass shootings, the government, serial killers, social pressure, diseases, and pretty much whatever there is to be afraid of.

You are correct that is why all of our cities are GHOST TOWNS now. I went to dinner with my friend on Tuesday night and we were the only people in the entire place. I asked the waiter "where is everybody" and he said the samething "people in the USA stay home because of the serial killers roaming the streets".

BTW My friend if there is NO fear in Santo Domingo then why do they have a curfew? Nobody is going to tell JMB773 when to go home. Now who has the freedom?

 

[Wishing you well]

Dv; that is not freedom....but libertinaje...practiced by the inconsiderados low class plebs

Amen to that!

Most people here are so unconsidered, selfish and self-centered that is not to believe. I mean, five lanes of vehicles when there are only two painted on the pavement?

But noooo, they can't wait on line as everyone else; they have to squeeze their way in and beat everyone else. What gives?

 

[JMB773]

No but, it went into the system which is how they make money to pay the police so therefore, it is the same, just in the US it's called legal to take money from you however, this does not justify that it is not a pure scam to take money from the people. You got a lot to learn and a very long way to go before you figure this one out it appear from your statement.

NO you need to slow your a$$ down if you do not want a ticket. 1+1=2 well speeding+ in the presence of a law officer= a TICKET. Everybody in the USA knows this, why are you trying to make it sound like it was the system that was speeding?

Look DOC you are not in the DR, you can't do something here because it makes you feel good. We have laws here and if you do not agree with the laws of the land " Well you know what to do" stay in the DR.

 

[Givadogahome]

BTW My friend if there is NO fear in Santo Domingo then why do they have a curfew??

A curfew? In the city? Since when? What is it? Where specifically? And who is it applied to?

 

[keepcoming]

I will never understand how one can compare daily life in the DR to other countries such as the US, UK, etc.. It is not equal by no means. To live here you must accept the way of life, good, bad or unfair. You can't compare it to "home" and if you do maybe you need to rethink your reason for living here. Complaining is one thing but for me when I start comparing the difference well then maybe I should think about relocating. If I have to think too hard about why I live here then really I would have to question myself why am I living here and is it worth it.

 

[dv8]

A curfew? In the city? Since when? What is it? Where specifically? And who is it applied to?

we've had curfew for years now, it's about selling alcohol. weekdays until midnight, weekends until 2am.

 

[Wishing you well]

we've had curfew for years now, it's about selling alcohol. weekdays until midnight, weekends until 2am.

Not a curfew, rather the law; which BTW exist in many countries to include the USA.